Majofo

CheeseyPoofs McNut

No worries - all you need to know is that Acura sales have taken off again since they dropped manual transmissions and hid the exhaust tips. Q.E.D.

justnspace

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Mr Hyde

I think they should aim as high as possible, but that still doesn't mean I think you can just flip a switch, and instantly create demand, especially after 6yrs of alienating your base. Those buyers who were turned away may now be perfectly happy, and comfortable with whatever other make is in their driveway, and no matter how good your product is, it can take quite some time to win people back, or get on their radar. I think the Acura name has also lost points compared to years ago.

The TLX occupies the same rung as the 3G did, but that rung is also now flooded with cars from the level of the ILX/A3/CLA/1/2, etc through the level of the TLX/3/A4/C/Q, etc. For those that don't care about names, even Accords, Camry's and fusions are now offering levels of features, and refinement that surpass lux cars from a few years ago.

I was almost one of the poeple lost to other makes for a sedan. I was very close to another BMW or Audi, but the timing just worked out, and I saw the TLX as having everything I wanted at a much better value. Could it have been more sporty, powerful, or had more aggressive styling? Sure, but I have yet to have owned the perfect car that I didn't want to enhance in some way.

BEAR-AvHistory

Or since the dropped the fugly 4G that was very hard for them to sell & dropped the opening TLX price back to 3G numbers.

Majofo

Except you get a 4-banger version with that $$

4-banger is the best value though

BEAR-AvHistory

Agree would be interesting to see what end of the pricing scale the current sales are at & how it overlaps the 4G sales.

Quandry

The decision/development cycle is at least 3 years if not 4, so something that the current market wants will be different to what was wanted when the design process started. The MMC (for 2018) is likely in the design phase right now. Same challenge for all automakers, but some may be able to react faster.

fsttyms1

We dont know. But one would hope that they arent settling for what ever they can sell.

Looking at a Bellanova White Pearl V6 sh-awd advance, though i was liking the Slate Silver Metallic they had with the oem kit (which i would have to plastic weld and smooth the transitions to the bumper sometime that evening the car came home if i were to get it) I really wish though that it came with a more powerful engine though. It just lacked so much low end torque and high end power that im used to with my 3.7 that i built for my 2nd gen TL, that and i really wish the DCT came with the V6 after having driven both v6 and 4cyl models.

keith7120

Hey I'm currently still driving a 2013 4G SH-AWD TL. I stopped by my dealership in Dallas for an oil change. I did my usual show-room stroll while seeking familiar salesmen. I asked one them how the TLX sales were going. They said "It has cooled down quite a bit" It was really hot going into the end of 2014 and then the sales have gone kinda flat. The current sales are mostly coming from those owners that are at least 2 years into their current lease with Honda finance. I know this is only one dealership, but I wonder if this reflects the true trend? I know the TLX has won value awards and such but has sales reflected the value the TLX?

BEAR-AvHistory

Its a trend right now, look at the declining monthly sales #'s. They have been impacted by a number of things, self inflicted?, so the Spring #'s should give a clearer picture of how it will go over the long haul.

IMHO sales will pick up as they get past roll out issues.

iutodd

Well there certainly are enough TLX out there - cars.com has over 11,000 TLX listed...which is the most of any single Acura vehicle by far.

It's basically right at 90 days though if you look at the running average - which isn't terrible.

There have been any number of factors: weather has been shitty, the 9AT got recalled for ZF's issue (I'm sure Acura is REALLY pissed at ZF for that one), the ILX is just now hitting sales floors which may have been holding people up who were looking at the I4 TLX.

And prices, according to truecar, are still running close to MSRP (at least in my area). March was a big month for Acura last year because of the weather the first two months of the year - March was necessary to get them going. I'm betting in March you will start to see deals flow and Acura will be pushing hard for big numbers - they need 3500-4000 TLX sales in March...

iutodd

I would also add that local reviews of the TLX have all been solid from what I've seen - the US News awards should help as well - so I think the car has positive momentum still...it would seem that the brand as a whole has momentum as well.

W.B.MASON

What were the 2012 March sales for the TSX and the TL? What is the ratio of TLX 4 cylinder to 6 cylinder sales?

mapleloaf

As threads get repetitive, although lots of interesting and factually based opinions have been exchanged, I like to shift the debate, as I did in the Accord vs TLX marathon thread. If Ginger is the TL, Maryanne is the TSX, what sitcom actress would you use to represent the TLX?

boe_d

The Nanny.

a35tl

Rachel from, "Friends".

SebringSilver

Haha...I don't think Tina Louise will enjoy being referred to as the Hollywood equivalent of a 4G Acura TL.

If Tina Louise were a car, she'd be a Ferrari 355 Spider: all voluptuous curves and looks best when topless.

J.A.S.

You mean from the show Nanny and the Professor, that early 1970s TV gem?

Stew4HD

Damn, I hadn't thought of that show in so long! I remember it though

boe_d

Jees - been a long time. No I was talking about Fran Drescher. Now you got me thinking about the Ghost and Mrs Muir.

YeuEmMaiMai

The 4th gen is downright ugly... it's design is not a logical step forward form the 3rd gen TL...which was a very logical step forward from the 2nd gen TL...

Same thing happened with the 03 accord, a serious departure and it's sales suffered..

Stew4HD

Then.. Here Come The Brides.. Courtship of Eddie's Father.. Family Affair, My favorite Martian, The Real McCoys, Mr. Ed...

Not that I watched much TV as a kid... Lassie, Gentle Ben, Flipper, Lost In Space, The Outer Limits, The Flying Nun.. Maybe a young Sally Field fits the bill?

boe_d

Perv!

Stew4HD

It's a bad habit

Gidget was hot!

weather

I am deeply offended that you award my title to Stew4HD! I AM the perv here...let no one forget that *LMAO*

Stew4HD

^^ The first cut is the deepest

Colin

You need the plates that read 6ULDV8

Majofo

iutodd

Not to re-direct the thread back to the original topic or anything but the TLX outsold the IS in February (3418 v 3383). That's a good sign no matter how small the victory given the IS sales pattern from last year and, I think, the likelihood that the TLX will follow that pattern. Also Acura has had 6 straight months of growth now - every full month the TLX has been on sale has seen Acura grow over last year. And four of those six months saw growth of over 10% YoY.

boe_d

This may shock you but if you are a male, by definition you are a perv although I too have been called that by many girlfriends over the years.

Stew4HD

Poor weather just can't win

Quandry

He will only win if he comes to the dark side and gets a TLX.