quantum7

http://www.autonews.com/article/2016...hondas-cadence

Interesting rumor mill information. Not sure how accurate any of this is.
Similar information for other brands

a35tl

I hope Acura won't forsake its V6 engines. I know a lot of manufacturers are going with turbo 4 cylinder engines but personally, I prefer V6s.

shmobby

The new TLX is going to be awesome. Think about the letter A very soon and the letter S in the not too distant future.

iutodd

If rumor is to be believed then a new 3.0L V6 turbo is in the cards for Acura.

a35tl

Now that would be awesome! I just don't want a 4 cylinder.

reddogTL

I think we can pretty much guarentee Acura's will be getting turbo's since the Honda lineup has already received them in their low end vehicles. Also, in EU, the new Type R has that hefty 2.0L. My only issue is I dont know if that will be enough grunt for the TLX SH-AWD. If they cant up the torque to be on par or better than the current V6 which is in the 265-270lbs range, then they will need to do some serious tuning with the transmission to keep the car in the peak powerband for much longer. Like BMW's 1500 - 4500 or so RPM its always at peak torque.
I'm thinking they may also carry over the new 7 speed dual clutch transmission from the new MDX hybrid.

BEAR-AvHistory

The new T_ is going to be awesome. 10 years later & many are still waiting for the awesome.

AZuser

and another S after that.

shmobby

LOL



I've seen the TLX A-spec and it is a thing of beauty. I might even be willing to trade a manual gear box for those looks.

alpha0

And that probably is what interests me too (specially if they also fix transmission issues). I dont think Type S with V6 Turbo will come to TLX before they put it in RLX replacement, plus if engine mounting is longitudinal, they will need to wait till TLX FMC for new platform. Not interested in SHSHAWD if they try to sell that as Type S for time being.

iutodd

There's an unconfirmed report that the Honda Avancier in China (the SUV based on the concept D), which has the 2.0T, is putting out 268 hp and 272 lb-ft of torque. The 2.0T in the CTR has 306 hp and 295 lb-ft so clearly the engine can put out some serious grunt. And those specs for the Chinese 2.0T would make a lot of sense.

I'm expecting the 10AT to be the transmission of choice for Acura moving forward. I'd be surprised to see the 7DCT outside of Sport Hybrid variants - it's tied in to an electric motor so I don't even know if they can use it by itself.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

^you're much better at this guessing game then the rest of us.

the 7DCT is only mated to the SH-SHAWD

the CTR is pushing HIGH power from a little 2.0

TacoBello

Which Turbo 4 have you ever driven? Generally, if you didn't look under the hood, you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference.

While a 4 cyl sounds "cheap" or "lower class" than a V6, the turbo makes them very functional... stay off the boost and you get better fuel economy than a V6. Hit the boost and you'll more torque than a V6.

Power delivery comes much sooner in the RPM band and is generally much more linear across the RPM band with the I4T, compared to a V6. There are many many many benefits to them. The downside, as I mentioned, is the perception an I4 gives as compared to a V6.

shmobby

the MDX hybrid has a 6 speed auto, I believe and a 3.0L V6.

I am excited to see what the TLX Type-S ends up being. That is a little further out though.

shmobby

I had a mazdaspeed3 and found it to behave counter to what you are describing. Power was minimal down low, but insane once the turbo kicked in. Very not linear. Also, after you put an intake on, it frees the turbo up and highway mileage goes to crap. Just my own personal experience with only 1 car, but I'd take a V6 over a 4 cyl turbo. You can always add a turbo to the V6 later.

shmobby

the mazaspeed3 was the fastest car I've ever owned though. with just an intake and intercooler, I ran a 13.3 quarter mile at 107mph. Faster than my 350z with full intake and exhaust.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

since then, turbo technology has greatly improved

shmobby

I dunno.

Look at the RDX... turbo 4 was supposed to be the answer to power and economy. Then the V6 came out with more power and better MPGs in 2013 or whatever.

Just saying.

TacoBello

RDX was a terrible implementation of using turbos. Just brutal. The engine wasn't designed for turboing. Acura just slapped a turbo on to it.

mazda 3 was made to make peak power in the upper RPM limits. There's more than one way to turbo. This is where tuning and turbo sizing is key. Mazda's way was to make power up high, not down low. Pretty much all turbo commuter cars are opposite of that. I bet you $20 that the TLX Type S, if turbo'd, would not be like the Mazda Speed 3. If anything, the Civic Type R will be like the Speed 3.

two different cars built for two different demographics.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

Lol that isn't a good example....
The rdx

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

The Focus RS has 350hp/350tq AWD six speed manual all from a tiny 2.3l four banger.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

Hell, the CTR has a lot from a tiny 4

a35tl

^^^
What is a CTR? I'm not familiar with that.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

I'm sorry, it's the abbreviation for the Honda Civic Type-R

a35tl

Okay. Thanks.

F23A4

I'm confident that Honda did more than just slap a turbo kit onto a K-series with the K23.

However, this powertrain could have been better developed for the 2G RDX rather than taking the easy way out by sourcing the corporate V6 from the Accord. (Note: I feel likewise with the hybrid powertrain from the 7G AV6)