Acura and Honda Model Timelines
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Acura and Honda Model Timelines
http://www.autonews.com/article/2016...hondas-cadence
Interesting rumor mill information. Not sure how accurate any of this is.
Similar information for other brands
Interesting rumor mill information. Not sure how accurate any of this is.
Similar information for other brands
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wlkeel (07-25-2016)
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I think we can pretty much guarentee Acura's will be getting turbo's since the Honda lineup has already received them in their low end vehicles. Also, in EU, the new Type R has that hefty 2.0L. My only issue is I dont know if that will be enough grunt for the TLX SH-AWD. If they cant up the torque to be on par or better than the current V6 which is in the 265-270lbs range, then they will need to do some serious tuning with the transmission to keep the car in the peak powerband for much longer. Like BMW's 1500 - 4500 or so RPM its always at peak torque.
I'm thinking they may also carry over the new 7 speed dual clutch transmission from the new MDX hybrid.
I'm thinking they may also carry over the new 7 speed dual clutch transmission from the new MDX hybrid.
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And that probably is what interests me too (specially if they also fix transmission issues). I dont think Type S with V6 Turbo will come to TLX before they put it in RLX replacement, plus if engine mounting is longitudinal, they will need to wait till TLX FMC for new platform. Not interested in SHSHAWD if they try to sell that as Type S for time being.
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I think we can pretty much guarentee Acura's will be getting turbo's since the Honda lineup has already received them in their low end vehicles. Also, in EU, the new Type R has that hefty 2.0L. My only issue is I dont know if that will be enough grunt for the TLX SH-AWD. If they cant up the torque to be on par or better than the current V6 which is in the 265-270lbs range, then they will need to do some serious tuning with the transmission to keep the car in the peak powerband for much longer. Like BMW's 1500 - 4500 or so RPM its always at peak torque.
I'm thinking they may also carry over the new 7 speed dual clutch transmission from the new MDX hybrid.
I'm thinking they may also carry over the new 7 speed dual clutch transmission from the new MDX hybrid.
I'm expecting the 10AT to be the transmission of choice for Acura moving forward. I'd be surprised to see the 7DCT outside of Sport Hybrid variants - it's tied in to an electric motor so I don't even know if they can use it by itself.
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justnspace (07-29-2016)
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While a 4 cyl sounds "cheap" or "lower class" than a V6, the turbo makes them very functional... stay off the boost and you get better fuel economy than a V6. Hit the boost and you'll more torque than a V6.
Power delivery comes much sooner in the RPM band and is generally much more linear across the RPM band with the I4T, compared to a V6. There are many many many benefits to them. The downside, as I mentioned, is the perception an I4 gives as compared to a V6.
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Which Turbo 4 have you ever driven? Generally, if you didn't look under the hood, you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference.
While a 4 cyl sounds "cheap" or "lower class" than a V6, the turbo makes them very functional... stay off the boost and you get better fuel economy than a V6. Hit the boost and you'll more torque than a V6.
Power delivery comes much sooner in the RPM band and is generally much more linear across the RPM band with the I4T, compared to a V6. There are many many many benefits to them. The downside, as I mentioned, is the perception an I4 gives as compared to a V6.
While a 4 cyl sounds "cheap" or "lower class" than a V6, the turbo makes them very functional... stay off the boost and you get better fuel economy than a V6. Hit the boost and you'll more torque than a V6.
Power delivery comes much sooner in the RPM band and is generally much more linear across the RPM band with the I4T, compared to a V6. There are many many many benefits to them. The downside, as I mentioned, is the perception an I4 gives as compared to a V6.
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the mazaspeed3 was the fastest car I've ever owned though. with just an intake and intercooler, I ran a 13.3 quarter mile at 107mph. Faster than my 350z with full intake and exhaust.
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I dunno.
Look at the RDX... turbo 4 was supposed to be the answer to power and economy. Then the V6 came out with more power and better MPGs in 2013 or whatever.
Just saying.
Look at the RDX... turbo 4 was supposed to be the answer to power and economy. Then the V6 came out with more power and better MPGs in 2013 or whatever.
Just saying.
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RDX was a terrible implementation of using turbos. Just brutal. The engine wasn't designed for turboing. Acura just slapped a turbo on to it.
mazda 3 was made to make peak power in the upper RPM limits. There's more than one way to turbo. This is where tuning and turbo sizing is key. Mazda's way was to make power up high, not down low. Pretty much all turbo commuter cars are opposite of that. I bet you $20 that the TLX Type S, if turbo'd, would not be like the Mazda Speed 3. If anything, the Civic Type R will be like the Speed 3.
two different cars built for two different demographics.
mazda 3 was made to make peak power in the upper RPM limits. There's more than one way to turbo. This is where tuning and turbo sizing is key. Mazda's way was to make power up high, not down low. Pretty much all turbo commuter cars are opposite of that. I bet you $20 that the TLX Type S, if turbo'd, would not be like the Mazda Speed 3. If anything, the Civic Type R will be like the Speed 3.
two different cars built for two different demographics.
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justnspace (07-29-2016)
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However, this powertrain could have been better developed for the 2G RDX rather than taking the easy way out by sourcing the corporate V6 from the Accord. (Note: I feel likewise with the hybrid powertrain from the 7G AV6)
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