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Could be weird lighting in the pic, but too many discordant lines.
Nice paint though.
Aye - from some angles it looks pretty nice - from others it's a mess. I guess that's the way of the future. I came up behind a Lexus nt 200t on the way in to work this morning - talk about too many discordant lines!
Also - that's a marketing photo that was shot in perfect lighting then clearly phtoshopped a bit.
Here's a pic in natural light. The line I circled is the one that bothers me - bothers me on all cars that to do this kind of sharp edge over the front wheel. Between that, and the bulky rear end, it makes the car look like a dumbbell. Fat on each end and skinny in the middle. No idea who thinks this is a good look, but it's on a lot of cars.
Here's a pic in natural light. The line I circled is the one that bothers me - bothers me on all cars that to do this kind of sharp edge over the front wheel. Between that, and the bulky rear end, it makes the car look like a dumbbell. Fat on each end and skinny in the middle. No idea who thinks this is a good look, but it's on a lot of cars.
I still think that that crease looks best on the original car with it, the 73 to 77 Monte Carlo. It worked good on those because they were long cars and it flowed good, current cars its works bets on the Mazda6!
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Couldn't quite put my finger on what exactly about the styling of the new Maxima that puts me off. It's a bold design language, one that is bound to carry over into the design for the Altima. For me the lines are just a bit too bold and with it, the front end is too busy. I do give credit to Nissan for not playing it conservative on the styling.
One of the thing that I find visually unpleasing is that black section on the C pillar. It gives, it me anyway, an appearance of a non natural flowing line. I feel the same way about the RX from Lexus.
That being said, I find that the Murano can pull it off.
I may have a different opinion of course once I see the car in person even though it would never be on my shopping list.
One of the thing that I find visually unpleasing is that black section on the C pillar. It gives, it me anyway, an appearance of a non natural flowing line. I feel the same way about the RX from Lexus.
That being said, I find that the Murano can pull it off.
I may have a different opinion of course once I see the car in person even though it would never be on my shopping list.
I've seen the Murano in person. ugly!! hehe.
I love all Nissan's interior. But, I'll never buy another NISSAN.
^^ That is a good point, I have not seen the Murano in person so you may be right *lol*
But one thing we have in common is that I'll also never buy a Nissan (at least, not in the foreseeable future - nothing in particular but just not my thing)
My take on the new Maxima is it is a nice car, sure some of the styling is very aggressive and in your face, but I think that is what Nissan wants with the Maxima, if you want tamer car they will sell you an Altima which the next gen Altima shares same platform as the new Maxima. The problem with this genre of styling is it is has not longevity. I look at tons of 3G TLs ont he road and they hold up well for being 10+ year old design. The pre-MMC 4G TL and Lexus NX and this Maxima will look out of place in 5+ years. this is a lease vehicle not a buy for the long term.
^ Agree. I saw a pristine 3g TL in white recently and it still looks very sharp and stylish.
And when I see a clean 3G TL-S it makes me miss mine. They really had something then that they still struggle to reclaim those glory days. Now the competition is killing them, from the side, bottom and top.
The modern Nissan design language is too over-styled IMO. Too many lines that make them look like squished turds. The Maxima is no different. My sister-in-law recently bought a new Murano. I thought the previous Murano was ugly, but Nissan managed to make the new one even uglier. Acuras may be more boring in appearance, but they'll age a lot better than these new Nissans and Lexuses.
My take on the new Maxima is it is a nice car, sure some of the styling is very aggressive and in your face, but I think that is what Nissan wants with the Maxima, if you want tamer car they will sell you an Altima which the next gen Altima shares same platform as the new Maxima. The problem with this genre of styling is it is has not longevity. I look at tons of 3G TLs ont he road and they hold up well for being 10+ year old design. The pre-MMC 4G TL and Lexus NX and this Maxima will look out of place in 5+ years. this is a lease vehicle not a buy for the long term.
I saw a gorgeous pre-2012 restyling 4G two days ago parked next to my car...black with the original Acura 19" rims and umber interior.....it's incredible how modern still that design is......so far the 4G is aging wonderfully IMHO.
^^ Agree. I was OK, but not in love, with the styling of my 2010 when I bought it. Now, when I see it on a parking lot, it really looks great to me. As time goes by, I get more and more compliments on it too.
^^ Agree. I was OK, but not in love, with the styling of my 2010 when I bought it. Now, when I see it on a parking lot, it really looks great to me. As time goes by, I get more and more compliments on it too.
To me the most beautiful/distinctive/head turner sport sedans out there are the following:
Audi A7
4G TL (especially pre 2012 restyling)
Cadillac ATS
Cadillac CTS
2015 Dodge Charger
The Mercedes CLS is gorgeaous.
The Infiniti Q70 is still quite distinctive despite its age.
While not a sport sedan, the new Chrysler 300 makes quite the statement on the road as well.
In the lower price bracket, I still like a lot the Kia Optima (not the recent restyle) and the old Sonata.
Kudos to the Ford Fusion and the Chrysler 200 as well.
To me the most beautiful/distinctive/head turner sport sedans out there are the following:
Audi A7 4G TL (especially pre 2012 restyling)
Cadillac ATS
Cadillac CTS 2015 Dodge Charger
The Mercedes CLS is gorgeaous.
The Infiniti Q70 is still quite distinctive despite its age.
While not a sport sedan, the new Chrysler 300 makes quite the statement on the road as well.
In the lower price bracket, I still like a lot the Kia Optima (not the recent restyle) and the old Sonata.
Kudos to the Ford Fusion and the Chrysler 200 as well.
Similar folded & creased sheet metal styling - similar lack of sales for mechanical platforms that are pretty good. Wonder if there is a style to sales correlation?
Similar folded & creased sheet metal styling - similar lack of sales for mechanical platforms that are pretty good. Wonder if there is a style to sales correlation?
Frankly I do not care....all cars do not have to look similar..some people like other design, maybe not as popular but, again, who cares??
I turn my head when I see a 4G TL or a CTS....a 3 Series or a 5 Series are as inspiring to me as a Camry....too many on the road.
The companies that build cars & the people who buy them might tend to disagree with you & care very much.
Problem with any kind of edgy design is that it has limited appeal. Not good in a mass market product. Polarizing with limited appeal when introduced, fades fast when the new edgy item comes out.
Classic designs wear well over time. Logical evolution of a brands design theme does not instantly obsolete last years model & builds a strong family identity.
"too many on the road" Acura's marketing people would collectively give up their left nut if that was the brands major problem.
The Cobra is a classic automobile design, smooth & flowing & I can't get out of a gas station or supermarket parking lot without answering a bunch of questions about it.
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The companies that build cars & the people who buy them might tend to disagree with you & care very much.
Problem with any kind of edgy design is that it has limited appeal. Not good in a mass market product. Polarizing with limited appeal when introduced, fades fast when the new edgy item comes out.
Classic designs wear well over time. Logical evolution of a brands design theme does not instantly obsolete last years model & builds a strong family identity.
"too many on the road" Acura's marketing people would collectively give up their left nut if that was the brands major problem.
The Cobra is a classic automobile design, smooth & flowing & I can't get out of a gas station or supermarket parking lot without answering a bunch of questions about it.
Bear how many cars with an "edgy design" in the history of cars are you familiar with?? Now many I suspect.
An innovative design does not necessarily have to age badly, including the "folded and creased" type
There are many examples of gorgeous breakthrough design that have stood up the test of time very well...
How many people would pay attention to your Cobra if parked next to a Lamborghini Countach?? Not many I believe....Alfa Romeo SZ??
One of the most famous Italian car designer, Bertone, is well known for its "folded and creased" creations, it is its signature style.
How do you think the first 7 Series fares in terms of "aging" next to a Citroen CX?? Yes, very badly, actually fastback sedans are back in vogue.
Ever seen a Citroen DS in Europe?? That car was designed in the early 50s...
You want to bet that more head would turn with a Citroen SM compared to a first generation BMW 6 Series??
Alfa Romeo Giulia...another "out there" styled car in its era and still fondly remembered.
And so on and on....
Actually the first "new generation" Audis were very different compared to anything else on the road (the Audi 100 in 1982), very aerodynamic and slick.
Yes there are vehicles with an "original" design that are butt ugly....and usually they are born that way, is not a matter of aging....a recent example the famous Pontiac Aztek....or the 1990s Ford Taurus....let's not confuse "edgy" with "ugly".
All I care is that a company has to make enough money when introducing a car with a nice well executed "different" design...and that is the nature of the problem....volumes have to constantly increase in order to make money in the car business and this is creating a situation where cars tend to look more and more alike in a race to the common denominator and to be liked and well received by the largest possible audience.
The Germans for the most part got the formula right....inoffensive conservative design, often boring and without much risk taking (recently they actually copied some Japanese cues).
The Japs do the same especially in the mainstream market....Camry, Accord, etc...
Look at Jaguar for example....especially with the new XE they are trying to be very German in their style and the result is a completely forgettable car, if I want to buy German I get the original thank you.
To me the fact you do not see a gazillion of the same car I drive on the road is a bonus not an handicap.
I have to say, I had a chance to visit an Acura dealer today and they had a TLX in the showroom with a bodykit on.....That car looks AMAZING with a bodykit on! The pictures don't accentuate the lines and the aggressive stance of the TLX as in person....My 2 cents anyway
Ran into a new Maxima on the road today. First one I have seen in the wild; red with a rear spoiler.
I liked the view from the rear, although it was weird seeing a car in 2015 with a 3rd brake light, and an additional brake light in the spoiler which were both hooked up, and functional.
The front fender crease is just as large in real life as it is in the pics. It was much more in your face than the one on the rear quarter panel.
The view from the front however just had me going whoa..It's a jumble of shapes, swoops, and chrome. Definitely too busy for my tastes.
The TLX definitely isn't as avant-garde, but it isn't as polarizing either. Time will tell which is more effective, and which will age more gracefully.
^^I went to an event at my dealer last weekend. They had a CBP AWD TLX on display with the body kit and optional wheels. It really looked terrific.
To me no amount of body kit will make a TLX terrific....it is bland and anonymous. I'm not a fan of body kits either....they look tacky and an afterthought, they remind me of some Pontiac cars plastic cladding in the past.
I saw the video comparison with the new Maxima....remarkable how the Maxima interiors look much more luxurious and detailed (something pointed out by the journalist doing the review).
Agree, Its the right car for Honda to bring back Acura's traditional sales leader.
So far the TLX is bringing in a bit of increase in sales more than anything else because of with its lower price of entry and smaller frugal engine.
To me no amount of body kit will make a TLX terrific....it is bland and anonymous. I'm not a fan of body kits either....they look tacky and an afterthought, they remind me of some Pontiac cars plastic cladding in the past.
I'm not usually a fan of the body kits either, but this car, with optional wheels and the color - all beautifully detailed - really caught my eye. It looked good.
So far the TLX is bringing in a bit of increase in sales more than anything else because of with its lower price of entry and smaller frugal engine.
Maybe it's selling because its a great looking car with outstanding appointments at a competitive price and you don't have to pay some BMW tech $200/hr to change the oil.
Maybe it's selling because its a great looking car with outstanding appointments at a competitive price and you don't have to pay some BMW tech $200/hr to change the oil.
For some reason, any good news for the TLX is a reason to bash it more.
Maybe it's selling because its a great looking car with outstanding appointments at a competitive price and you don't have to pay some BMW tech $200/hr to change the oil.
For some reason, any good news for the TLX is a reason to bash it more.
I do not see this big sales success in the first place....so far....it's selling ok...
05-30-2015, 11:19 PM
Maxima vs TLX
See you in a week.
