Sport wheels ?
03-07-2011, 09:05 AM
#1
Sport wheels ?
As most know i purchased a pair of 20 inch lexani wheels for my tl. I love the way the car looks but at higher speeds like 80 mph i hate the way the car feels. Now everybody says the ride changes when you jump that high on wheels. But thats hard to believe especially that a good number of manufacturers are putting 20's on vehicles stock.The question is is there a 20 inch rim out there that will not change my drive that dramatically at higher speeds or if i want a more comfy ride should i try softer tires or just downsize the rims..I can't go back to the factories i hate then i have the base tl.
03-07-2011, 10:44 AM
#2
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As most know i purchased a pair of 20 inch lexani wheels for my tl. I love the way the car looks but at higher speeds like 80 mph i hate the way the car feels. Now everybody says the ride changes when you jump that high on wheels. But thats hard to believe especially that a good number of manufacturers are putting 20's on vehicles stock.The question is is there a 20 inch rim out there that will not change my drive that dramatically at higher speeds or if i want a more comfy ride should i try softer tires or just downsize the rims..I can't go back to the factories i hate then i have the base tl.
all the cars that come with 20 inch wheels are specifically tuned to ride smooth. your car came tuned to only ride 19's, 18's and 17's smooth, anything above that will exceed OEM expectations. This is why your car feels like crap at high speeds. its not tuned to ride on 20s like landrovers or bmw's, etc.
its like saying you will get smooth ride putting 19's on a civic.. (unless you ride air runners)
03-07-2011, 11:53 AM
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To maintain a similar overall diameter, every time you go up in size, the sidewall gets smaller and smaller.
Why do think that reducing the sidewall won't decrease ride comfort?
Stock Tires:
245/45-17: Sidewall ~4.8 inches
245/40-18: Sidewall ~4.3 inches
245/40-19: Sidewall ~3.9 inches
Standard "plus 1" 20" is 245/35-20: Sidewall ~3.4 inches. That's getting really narrow.
Why do think that reducing the sidewall won't decrease ride comfort?
Stock Tires:
245/45-17: Sidewall ~4.8 inches
245/40-18: Sidewall ~4.3 inches
245/40-19: Sidewall ~3.9 inches
Standard "plus 1" 20" is 245/35-20: Sidewall ~3.4 inches. That's getting really narrow.
03-07-2011, 01:19 PM
#4
Def appreciate the input it does make sense i thought about it the same way but you know when your shopping somebody is always trying to sell you something and tell you everything you want to hear until the item is purchased..
On another note though how or where should i look to tune or fix the suspension to ride smooth on 20s if i decide to stay with that size because i notice alot of you guys up here rock out with 20s and havent really had to many complaints about them?
On another note though how or where should i look to tune or fix the suspension to ride smooth on 20s if i decide to stay with that size because i notice alot of you guys up here rock out with 20s and havent really had to many complaints about them?
03-07-2011, 01:39 PM
#5
Moderator
um no.. thats not true.. you lose a lot of your ride quality when you go up in rim size.
believe me when i say you wont ever have OEM quality ride with 20's unless you run air runner. but air runners are a different type suspensions..
believe me when i say you wont ever have OEM quality ride with 20's unless you run air runner. but air runners are a different type suspensions..
03-28-2011, 08:36 AM
#7
^^u don't have to do that .......I took off the lexani's and bought a pair of ronjon 20's and my ride feels like i have the 17 inch factories on ....you will still feel the difference on bumpy roads ofcourse but overall ride i can't even tell that there are 20's on the car no bullshit ...
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03-28-2011, 08:46 AM
#8
Drifting
^^ 
I can feel that the ride is a bit stiffer with the 20's on (42 PSI to deal with the XL load tires and low sidewall). But as long as your wheels are hubcentric, you shouldn't have an issue like you would if used another wheel (vibration at high speeds). At the very least, you should use hubcentric wheel adapters if your wheels aren't designed for the Acura.
I can feel that the ride is a bit stiffer with the 20's on (42 PSI to deal with the XL load tires and low sidewall). But as long as your wheels are hubcentric, you shouldn't have an issue like you would if used another wheel (vibration at high speeds). At the very least, you should use hubcentric wheel adapters if your wheels aren't designed for the Acura.
03-28-2011, 09:00 AM
#9
^^
I can feel that the ride is a bit stiffer with the 20's on (42 PSI to deal with the XL load tires and low sidewall). But as long as your wheels are hubcentric, you shouldn't have an issue like you would if used another wheel (vibration at high speeds). At the very least, you should use hubcentric wheel adapters if your wheels aren't designed for the Acura.
I can feel that the ride is a bit stiffer with the 20's on (42 PSI to deal with the XL load tires and low sidewall). But as long as your wheels are hubcentric, you shouldn't have an issue like you would if used another wheel (vibration at high speeds). At the very least, you should use hubcentric wheel adapters if your wheels aren't designed for the Acura.
03-28-2011, 09:17 AM
#10
Chapter Leader (Northeast Florida)
Buying 20" wheels that you have to add spacers, hubcentric rims and all the other crap causes problems then one blame it on being 20".
Get some custom made or wheels that fit properly and you'll enjoy your 20" wheels. my
03-28-2011, 01:32 PM
#11
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03-30-2011, 12:24 PM
#12
Wheel weight is a HUGE factor too!!
On my 3G TL-S i had a set of Rays Lexion 2pc 20" Wheels ($1100 MSRP/per Wheel)
The fronts were 32lbs and the rears were 34lbs... ride quality was severely impacted. I switched to a set of 19" Enkeis, that weighed about 20lbs in the Front/21lbs in the rear... car rode BETTER than stock
Those Lexani's you had, probably honed in around 30lbs a wheel.. on a FWD car, that will definitely make the ride feel crappy
I wasnt sure if you mentioned, but do you have an aftermarket suspension? If you get adjustable (coilovers) you can play around with ride height settings which will help.. If you get the Tein SS (adjustable dampening) you can really fine tune your suspension to work well.
Hub centric/rings also make a big difference. If the aftermarket wheel is a 72.1 hub bore, and you dont put on rings... man alive, those suckers are going to shake wildly. And your tires may not have been balanced properly the first time.
Also, your tires do make a difference too... all tires have a different ride appeal to them. I prefer a grippy ride, so i like stickier compound tires.
Nice thing about RonJon wheels is that they are designed FOR Acura/Honda with a 64.1mm Hub bore. no rings needed
On my 3G TL-S i had a set of Rays Lexion 2pc 20" Wheels ($1100 MSRP/per Wheel)
The fronts were 32lbs and the rears were 34lbs... ride quality was severely impacted. I switched to a set of 19" Enkeis, that weighed about 20lbs in the Front/21lbs in the rear... car rode BETTER than stock
Those Lexani's you had, probably honed in around 30lbs a wheel.. on a FWD car, that will definitely make the ride feel crappy
I wasnt sure if you mentioned, but do you have an aftermarket suspension? If you get adjustable (coilovers) you can play around with ride height settings which will help.. If you get the Tein SS (adjustable dampening) you can really fine tune your suspension to work well.
Hub centric/rings also make a big difference. If the aftermarket wheel is a 72.1 hub bore, and you dont put on rings... man alive, those suckers are going to shake wildly. And your tires may not have been balanced properly the first time.
Also, your tires do make a difference too... all tires have a different ride appeal to them. I prefer a grippy ride, so i like stickier compound tires.
Nice thing about RonJon wheels is that they are designed FOR Acura/Honda with a 64.1mm Hub bore. no rings needed
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