I'm not sure if these wheels are Canada only elite, but they're the 19s pictures below. I want to do h&r springs and some spacers on my car but i'd like to see how it looks, so if you have any sort of similar colour/trim/packaged combo with the springs and/or spacers I'd like to see. Also would take some suggestions on spacers to use and what thickness. Car is sh-awd.

 

That's the 'Advance' package wheels in the US.

I have H&R springs on mine with the Tech package 18's and I think it looks fantastic. I don't think you really need to see it.

 

That is a gorgeous car, sir.

 

That would even help! I can't find many pics of the springs installed in general but I'd really like to get an idea of how it would look with 19's and wheel spacers.

Thanks! It's very different than my usual sports car/truck but I knew if I was going to get myself a nice daily driver that I really liked the newer TL's, and I just happen to come across the exact colour/options/wheel/etc combo so i snatched it up. A lot slower than I'm used to but it's such a nice car to drive. I really planned on keeping it stock but I feel like a few simple things could go a long way.

 

I did some searching with the "advance" package wording and came up with the pics below - looks amazing.

https://acurazine.com/forums/tires-w.../#post15158602

 

Not the Elite wheels, however the link below is my car with 19" wheels when it was lowered on H&R Springs. You will also find pics showing the difference (measurements) of the ride height.

For spacers on the stock rims you will need 25 mm all the way around, some members also use 20 mm front and 25 mm rear.

Click on the link below for pics.
https://acurazine.com/forums/photogr...-832308/page7/

 

Thanks for the pics, that's perfect! looks like it dropped it 1.25" front and 1" in the back which is nice because you don't get that reverse rake you see with some springs.

As far as the spacers, 20 for the front/25 for the back, i assume? What are some of the better brands of wheel spacers? I feel like this is a part you can't cheap out on. Do you need to do extended studs or any different hardware?

 

Anyone have spacer pics now? 25 all around and 20/25? And are spacers actually safe to use?

 

Can't express how strongly I feel about not getting springs and instead getting coilovers. The labor will cost the same for either install and you'll need an alignment after either. The only disadvantage to coil is the initial cost is greater, but the advantages far out weight that difference, specially considering how inexpensive and good TEIN SA are.

Spring CONS:
-They'll wear out your stock struts prematurely
-They make the ride a lot harsher and I'm not talking difference between 335i vs M3 harsh, where the more firm ride performs better. I'm talking difference between a well engineered suspension setup (coils) and doing things on the cheap (springs).
-They aren't adjustable, this right here is huge. If you daily in a 4 season climate on coils, you want to dial the ride height just right to your liking for aesthetics or performance

I got H&R springs on my 09' because back then I was a novice to modding and because coilovers were significantly more expensive at that time. When I got my 12' I knew not to make that mistake again.

Edit: I run 21mm front and 25mm rear spacers from Motortech sport, they're made to order and are hubcentric. I've ran them for years, they perform perfectly, no vibrations. I can post pictures of how they fit on my ride, if you're interested, though currently I'm running an 18" winter setup.

 

^^ Agree with "HeartTLs" . I was also one of the members that had the H&R's but moved on to Tein's.

The advantage of ride height adjustment and dampening makes for a better investment.

 

I actually have to disagree. I had tein basics and it was way too firm and aggressive. This time aound i just got h&r springs on a sh-awd. i dont think i will ever get coilovers on a dd again. The car handled amazing but took away from the overall refinement of the car with low profile tires and an exhaust as well. But i live in the tri state area and our roads are crap.

I will say the adjust ability is awesome and you can stance the car exactly as you want. But i mod all my cars in some way. Different cars serve different purposes...

 

There is no comparing the Basis to the Tein SA as the Basis is basically junk. There is no dampening adjustment on the Basis. You can adjust the SA to ride as stiff or soft as you wish.

 

Basics were too aggressive and the H&R's are just right? First time I've heard that, though it is subjective. I've never confirmed it with TEIN technicians, but vendors have told me that basics are preset to 8/8 dampening, SA and SS can go 0-16. I leave mine at 00/00. I like a stiffer suspension, I even installed higher spring rate TEIN springs into my SA coils.

To be objective for your particular experience I want to know about the setups you tried both suspensions in, assuming you drove them on the same roads during the same seasons of the year.

-Were both cars new or used? If used how many miles on each?

-You seem to be into modding and I see you're running wide wheels/tires, were both cars running this wheel and tire combination?

-How low did you set your basics to? I don't remember how much H&R lowered my car and information on the web is all over the place. Vendors say 1.5-2 inch drop, some state the front will lower more than the rear and H&R official site states 1 inch all around. The lower you are the stiffer your TEIN coils will ride.

-How long did you ride on each setup?

 

The more pics the better. I'm just trying to get an idea of how certain setups sit with certain sized wheels, etc.

I'm not opposed to coilovers and the price different makes no difference to me, I've just always been scared of the idea of having to adjust them and not knowing how that works.Plus, the h&r springs give the drop I wanted. I bought this car to finally have something nice to daily driver that wasn't a hassle or got me tickets and I've already caught a bit of a mod bug.

 

I'll try to dig up some H&R drop pics from my old phone for you. I adjust my coils twice a year, and by I, I mean I pay someone to do it lol, since you'll also need an alignment after. Once when it warms up and then again when it gets cold.

 

The Tein Basis were on a 3G TL, manual trans, with Aspec wheels with an aggressive sidewall tire. As an example of how bad the roads are near me I bent all 4 wheels.

My opinion is strictly subjective. I didn't say I had a problem with coil-overs in any way. Just stated that the h&r spring set up on my 4G TL is ideal for my DD purposes. It delivers the ride compromise I prefer and stance that at the same time. Coil-overs are always an option even still. I just haven't felt the need to switch my setup.

I do run coil-overs on a sportier rwd car of mine that I drive much less often.

 

My TL with my old HPTs although someone on Ebay is using my picture, as you can still see my Navy License plate frame on there





Another picture that is more recent, and still used my picture. Not sure where they're getting them as my brother took the pictures

 

These are on H&Rs btw

 

I tried to save some money and I but trd springs on my Camry few years ago. I researched it, and thought it was going to be the perfect drop for me. After I installed I wished I had gone with coilovers because I wanted to drop some more. The springs dropped the car an inch and that is what they were supposed to do but I wanted an a little more. If I had purchased coilovers I could have fine tuned it exactly to my liking. That is why I choose coilovers for my TL. You'll find a lot of guys selling their springs and going to coilovers, I've never seen someone sell thier coilovers to go with springs.

 

I had my on tein 1 1/2 drop suspension with 22" Range Rover rims with a stretched tire and it rode good. So much attention with the white color TLs for some reason. I took them off and I want to go with those 19s .

 

Well, duh?

If you spend $1000 on coilovers, install them (~$200), get an alignment, ($~100) etc you'd be absolutely retarded to turn around and sell them at a loss (~$200 uninstall + depreciation) in favor of $100 springs...

I've never seen someone sell their $2000 Volk TE-37 for $600 Rota Grids but that doesn't mean everyone wants or needs TE-37.

I've got H&R springs on my TL that I got used for $100 shipped and did the install myself. It's a daily driver and it is absolutely perfect for me.

I've got a $2300 set of coilovers on my S2000 because it's the fun/track car.

 

WTF coilovers do you have on the S2K?! That's dynamic suspension (GS F sport), type coilover money.