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Old 06-08-2014 | 11:08 PM
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20x8.5 +30 all around

Figured I'd ask since I couldn't find anyone with a setup like this...

Was trying to somewhat go conservative. Anyone running this setup? I'm planning on doing so with H&R springs and not roll my fenders... Anyone on this forum running Avant Garde wheels as well? Haven't seen anyone yet.

Was also planning on running 245/35/20
Old 06-09-2014 | 05:22 AM
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Andrew,i have 19 x 8.5 x 35 mm, no rubbing issues with unrolled fenders.The difference between your choice and mine is .196 /2 = .098 or approx 3/32. I think that you may just squeak by or you may just need minimal roll.

With the H&R,it was really close with my rim size. "Jackie Tl" is running AG rims.
Old 06-09-2014 | 11:19 AM
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from the words of scotty2hotty

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Buy coilovers.

Quit being cheap and do it right the first time.
Old 06-09-2014 | 11:48 AM
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Coilovers seize up in the winter since il be winter driving my car. Also, I don't like the fact that other people have been saying that they hear clunking with coils.
Old 06-09-2014 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewcjduong
Coilovers seize up in the winter since il be winter driving my car.
Can you provide more details on this claim? Also, can anyone else comment on driving with coils during the winter? I fully intended to after seeing how many subaru guys do it, many saying they just lubed em up real well and powerwashed them every couple weeks.

thanks
Old 06-09-2014 | 12:14 PM
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So basically with winter salt in canada. Anything seizes up easily. My sway bar links are already seized up.

With coilovers what happens is they need to be completely lubbed and greased up before the winter and then sprayed down every few weeks to remove the salt build up, then come summer. Completely remove all the lube and grease and reapply it in the fall and do the same thing. It's a process in which I really would rather not do as it's more of a headache for a car that I just want to drive and not worry about like that.

From my understanding. People who run H&R love the setup so I see no reason in coils when I like the height and I have to winter drive my vehicle.

With my tsx. I had Tein SS on them and they eventually seized up even with greasing them. After about 100,000km they blew.
Old 06-09-2014 | 12:25 PM
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many people have used anti-seize lube for winter and zero issues..just saying.. there are preventative steps.
ive heard plastidip works as well... plastdip the ring and sleve together lol
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Old 06-09-2014 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewcjduong
So basically with winter salt in canada. Anything seizes up easily. My sway bar links are already seized up.

With coilovers what happens is they need to be completely lubbed and greased up before the winter and then sprayed down every few weeks to remove the salt build up, then come summer. Completely remove all the lube and grease and reapply it in the fall and do the same thing. It's a process in which I really would rather not do as it's more of a headache for a car that I just want to drive and not worry about like that.

From my understanding. People who run H&R love the setup so I see no reason in coils when I like the height and I have to winter drive my vehicle.

With my tsx. I had Tein SS on them and they eventually seized up even with greasing them. After about 100,000km they blew.
thanks for the details, sorry to hear about your previous set of Teins. Did you by chance send them to be rebuilt?

i'm still planning on riding mine through the winter, i've got faith.
Old 06-09-2014 | 01:47 PM
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Last year was one of the harshest winters to date for us in the northeast. I'm at 14K miles so far with no issues (knock on wood) but only time will tell how long they will last. If I can get 80K miles on them, I will be satisified. I'm not gonna lie though, there were a couple of occassions I heard some clunking doing a turn. This seems to happen in the morning when it's just been sitting there overnight. Also hear some squeaks on occassion. When it's summer and nice out, no noise. When I installed the wheels, I had a chance to take them and visually it checked out fine.

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Old 06-09-2014 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamAcura
Last year was one of the harshest winters to date for us in the northeast. I'm at 14K miles so far with no issues (knock on wood) but only time will tell how long they will last. If I can get 80K miles on them, I will be satisified. I'm not gonna lie though, there were a couple of occassions I heard some clunking doing a turn. This seems to happen in the morning when it's just been sitting there overnight. Also hear some squeaks on occassion. When I installed the wheels, I had a chance to take them and visually it checked out fine.
i was hesitant to say so, but honestly I feel the same way. If I can get to 80k-100k on the teins and they seize, I wouldn't be disappointed at all. They aren't going to last forever no matter what you do...

in terms of the clunking/squeaking, are you saying that it only happened during the winter? or is it an ongoing thing?
Old 06-09-2014 | 02:11 PM
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Yes, lifted. Only in the winters, the clunking happens in the mornings particularly. But I can count only 2-3 times I have heard it. Like I said, it's because its been sitting there overnight and needs time to warm up. Once the tubes warm up, no clunking. The squeaking comes and goes and that too seems to occur only in the cold.
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Old 06-09-2014 | 02:13 PM
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For the price of these, that shouldn't even be an issue.
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Old 06-09-2014 | 02:13 PM
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cool, thanks again for the additional information TA

@Andrew - sorry for hijacking your thread!
Old 06-09-2014 | 02:30 PM
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No problem ahaha.

The reason I'm going springs over coils is because 1. I will for sure want to slam my car, and due to my last vehicle. I'm not about that life. and 2. I'm picking up the springs from KarKraze and it's a deal I can't say no to.

I'm guessing 20x8.5 +30 should fit? Maybe minor roll? It's either that or 20x10 +38 and that seems really aggressive for a car that's not slammed. Those are the only two sizes for 5x120 and 20" for the wheels I want.
Old 06-09-2014 | 03:26 PM
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if those are the only two sizes.. go with the 8.5..
Old 06-09-2014 | 07:11 PM
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AG has a bespoke program that allows for a custom offset and finish on their M510 and M590... I actually have AG M510 on order, 20x8.5 + 40 offset... Went conservative so I can avoid rolling my fenders. Should be here this week. I currently have H&R sports too. Will post pictures when they are on.
Old 06-09-2014 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by juaijao
AG has a bespoke program that allows for a custom offset and finish on their M510 and M590... I actually have AG M510 on order, 20x8.5 + 40 offset... Went conservative so I can avoid rolling my fenders. Should be here this week. I currently have H&R sports too. Will post pictures when they are on.
Oh sweet. I'll be interested to see what it looks like.

I looked into the BESPOKE program but it's not really worth it for me. I'd still want the silver look and it's either 20x10 +15 to +40 or 20x8.5 +15 to +40. I was hoping to find a 9 inch width setup.
Old 06-12-2014 | 11:15 PM
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Got the AG M510s installed. Sits pretty flush, no rubbing issues. Rides pretty smooth still, just slightly bumpier.


Old 06-13-2014 | 05:18 AM
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^^ Those look sweet .
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Old 06-13-2014 | 07:53 AM
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thanks for positing photos juaijao! nice clean look, matches your silver nicely.
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Old 06-13-2014 | 08:47 AM
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Those were definitely a great choice. Flows perfectly!
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Old 06-13-2014 | 02:50 PM
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Sick! what colour are those?! custom?
Old 06-13-2014 | 06:53 PM
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Sick! what colour are those?! custom?
Thanks! It's called satin silver and is one of their standard colors.
Old 06-13-2014 | 07:52 PM
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Oh really? I thought it came standard with the brushed silver. Or is the satin silver the standard colour for the bespoke wheels? Looks nice tho. Can't wait to get them as well. Probably going to hold off till next year tho.
Old 06-13-2014 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewcjduong
Oh really? I thought it came standard with the brushed silver. Or is the satin silver the standard colour for the bespoke wheels? Looks nice tho. Can't wait to get them as well. Probably going to hold off till next year tho.
The bespoke has more color options. There are three levels and you can get some crazy color options. I got mine through Discount Tire... They are really good to work with and gave me a pretty good deal.
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