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Old 06-30-2013, 08:24 PM
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20" on non-lowered TL

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Will this set up work on a FWD 2010 TL that isn't dropped:

Wheel Size: 20x8.5 Front and 20x10

Bolt patter: 5x120

Offset: +34 Front and +40 Rear

Tire Setup: 245x35x20 Front and 275x30x 20 Rear

Also - in regards to lowering my car... will it change the ride quality (stiffness, comfort, etc)? I like the look but this is my daily driver and I have my baby and wife in the back seat, so not wanting to mess things up too much for looks.

Last question - what does it cost to lower the car 1"?

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Welcome to acurazine, It will work but you have to keep a few things in mind. With that setup you stretching your tires a little, but if u have a few people in the car you might rub.
When lowering the car their are 2 options, springs or coils. Which way are you thinking of going?
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That set up will work all day...until you lower it. The offsets are very conservative and those tire sizes are FAR from stretching on those width rims.

Only problem you will have is the rears will rub with 275's if lowered.

Even with your fenders rolled they will still rub.
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That set up will work all day...until you lower it. The offsets are very conservative and those tire sizes are FAR from stretching on those width rims.

Only problem you will have is the rears will rub with 275's if lowered.

Even with your fenders rolled they will still rub.
That's the setup I have and I'm not rubbing at all, I'm lowered with tein coils. He'll have to roll those fenders and shave or cutout the clip that holds the 2 quarter panels, also I have camber kits all around and I'm slammed and no rubbing at all.
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Thanks Vivmike - so if I do not lower the car, that set up will not cause any rubbing? Truth is I would rather avoid lowering my car or rolling my fenders, but after looking at pictures, I like the wider stance in the rear...

Otherwise I was planning on going with what I have read most ppl doing - 20x8.5 all around with a 245/35/20 -- just don't know if it will give a clean look with those specs
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types1fan... in regards to lowering... I really have no idea. Trying not to mess with the stock suspension - but if I have to in order to make the car look right with the wheels I want, I will. I would want to go which ever direction will give me the best / most comfortable ride (for a family car).
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Yep.... you will be fine.

What wheels are you looking at bud?

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Ride quality is about the same lowered on just springs.
Old 07-01-2013, 11:24 PM
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Ordered the Niche Targa... in silver. Simple looking wheel. Should be installed on Sat!!
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will not look good if not lowered.

also do not rock 30 series tire in rear if your not planning to lower.. it will just look weird and you will end up wasting money to exchange for 35 series tire.
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Targa's look nice man. Post pics once installed.
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:34 AM
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I did Tein SS with the EDFC module, and the ride is actually better than stock. So lowering the car doesn't make it bad like just springs do.
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potmilkz... will a 35 series in the rear rub?
Old 07-02-2013, 04:07 PM
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it wont rub.. your not lowered.


buys 40k car.. installs $200 springs.. fail

btw your ride quality will drop.. it will be stiffer due to having small sidewalls and upgrade wheel size.
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we'll see how it goes...

i called the tire shop and he told me bc i am going w a 245/35 in the front, a 275/30 is the right set up and the 275/35 wont be the right height... i dont knw, but thats what he told me.

im aware of the ride quality... the way i see it, if its really that bad ill just put my stocks back on or look for a oem set of 18s. i like having my options.
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Originally Posted by dmoe77
we'll see how it goes...

i called the tire shop and he told me bc i am going w a 245/35 in the front, a 275/30 is the right set up and the 275/35 wont be the right height... i dont knw, but thats what he told me.

im aware of the ride quality... the way i see it, if its really that bad ill just put my stocks back on or look for a oem set of 18s. i like having my options.

the shop is correct on the size.. but imho.. that scenario only comes into play if your lowered..

i can guarantee you that it is THAT bad. i had 20's before.. hated the ride quality, stuck my 18's back on.. and still currently is rolling on stock 18's
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So let me ask... would it be better to make the change to a 20x8.5 all around with a 245/35?
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Originally Posted by dmoe77
So let me ask... would it be better to make the change to a 20x8.5 all around with a 245/35?
Aww you got the wheels that I was planning to get. Post some pics when you get them if you can.

As for you question, since you don't plan on lowering it. Just go with 20x8.5 +35 all around with 245/35.
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Front wheels and tires are in... but rear wheels won't be here until the 8th... and I'm in Phoenix that week for a business trip... so it looks like next Sat for the install. Pics will be up once they're on.
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i lowered my car on tein SS coilovers. every single little bump i go over now i hear loud rattles and clunks. it is driving me crazy and i will be going back to the stock suspension. so i would say for the lowered look you will sacrifice ride quality.
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Originally Posted by ufmike316
i lowered my car on tein SS coilovers. every single little bump i go over now i hear loud rattles and clunks. it is driving me crazy and i will be going back to the stock suspension. so i would say for the lowered look you will sacrifice ride quality.
Umm mine is solid and quiet. Yours has an install issue. The quality of the ride is better than factory.
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believe it or not.. tein ss makes the car ride BETTER..

thats the truth..
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Originally Posted by potmilkz
believe it or not.. tein ss makes the car ride BETTER..

thats the truth..
Agreed hands down much more of a comfier ride
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Any update? Or are you getting them installed this coming weekend?
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Sorry for the delay... I just had time to post some pics to the thread.

These are the Niche Targa - car is staying at stock height, and I did roll my rear fenders (only bc I hear very minimal rub when turning into a parking lot with rear passengers). All in all - ride is very smooth and the exhaust sets it off.

20" Niche Targa - 20x8.5 front // 20x10 rear
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Cool. Put a 4x4 emblem under the "TL" and a "ain't skeered" sticker on the back window.
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Originally Posted by ufmike316
i lowered my car on tein SS coilovers. every single little bump i go over now i hear loud rattles and clunks. it is driving me crazy and i will be going back to the stock suspension. so i would say for the lowered look you will sacrifice ride quality.
I bet you when you got done with the install you had some bolts, washers, and a weird part laying around.
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I think its time for this vivmike guy to hit the road. He is pretty much a no class troll.
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Warning, don't feed the troll!

Looks good OP! Enjoy the fact you can actually DRIVE your car in between taking pics of it.

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Originally Posted by dmoe77
Sorry for the delay... I just had time to post some pics to the thread.

These are the Niche Targa - car is staying at stock height, and I did roll my rear fenders (only bc I hear very minimal rub when turning into a parking lot with rear passengers). All in all - ride is very smooth and the exhaust sets it off.

20" Niche Targa - 20x8.5 front // 20x10 rear
ATLP Exhaust
Looks good but do you have a lower pic that shows how it sits? Also did the paint crack on the rear quarters when you rolled them?
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@wreak... ill post some more pics up to show how it sits...

In regards to paint cracking, no. I hears of nightmares of that happening when people try and either do it themselves or get someone inexperienced. I had a good connect here in San Diego and had no issues.
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@ucf_bronco... exactly! I am always on the road, so as nice as a lowered car looks in pics, I'm happy with how my car sits and how it rides. Plus I have a carseat in the back, so stock height is what I promised my wife!
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a few more images...
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It looks clean, nice work OP.
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I see nothing wrong with that ride height at all, I think it looks really good actually. Is that an SH-AWD or FWD model?
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Got a boner for your car dmoe77. looks so hot.

Keep up the good work!!!
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Very nice choice on the wheels. Looks good. I think 1/2" to 3/4" drop would make it perfect.
Love the exhaust, how do you find the sound/drone? I be installing mine this weekend if it arrives on Friday as per UPS website.


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