Richie v6

Depends on state. Technically no jpipes are legal, but is a rarely enforced.

Misc-ura

Has anyone had problems with the o2 sensor and the check engine light im curious if this mod and the PCD will cause my engine to run lean sometimes

NwTSXmt

Thanks for the reply...

illi adik

Were you able to test everything out on a 2012?

eluzion

Any before and after dynos with the new J-Pipe? Heck, has anyone even dyno'd a stock SH-AWD yet?

alienstudio

would like to know any updates on the fitment issue with the 12's

Misc-ura

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/what-b-u-tiful-day-dyno-690686/ not the long tube jpipe but heres a baseline dyno and dynos with a few mods

gibbyisgibby

Are there any more in stock?

Richie v6

These gen 3 J series motors have very accurate O2 sensors that can compensate for any NA mods.

Not yet we've been very busy with the holidays. After getting the trouble jpipe back it looks like we might be able to get away with some spacers.

Not, yet from past experience the Honda AWD system flips out on the dyno. Still looking for a dyno with mechanically linked front and rear rollers

Yes we just added more to the site. I plan on packing so more up this weekend. Stock is dwindling, we have ~5-7 left.

Karl Alm

What's the cost?

EMAN2012

I just came out of a 2009 335i coupe with lots of low and mid-range. I'm intrugued by the J-pipe, if it indeed provides better mid range for my 2012 AWD TL. Do you guys have any data that shows actual gains? Also, what about the fitment issues for a 2012?

alienstudio

any new updates on fitment with 12'?

01clsstock

[QUOTE=EMAN2012;13466374]I just came out of a 2009 335i coupe with lots of low and mid-range. I'm intrugued by the J-pipe, if it indeed provides better mid range for my 2012 AWD TL. Do you guys have any data that shows actual gains? Also, what about the fitment issues for a 2012?[/QUO



I too would love to see some data so that i can purchase this.

illi adik

I've asked a few times, but haven't gotten a response.

alienstudio

yes, i have also emailed them a couple of times..but no replies yet.

strykerAWD

Ordered!

audi_to_TL

iTrader: (2)

I have sent richie multiple messages regarding the fitment on a 2012 awd. I keep getting run around answers.

I'm pretty much done asking if I can buy his product.

Excelerate here i come

Pseudomaniac

iTrader: (1)

While it did take me a long time to get them, and admittedly, the communication sucks, the pieces I received are pretty tip-top quality, and he was easy to contact with shipping/payment/details.

I would be surprised if there were much if any differences between the 2012/2009-2011 exhaust systems at the J pipe level. The tell tale would be to see if the honda/acura factory part numbers are the same for the 2012 and the 2009.

Here is an exploded view of the 2012 Exhaust parts:

http://parts.sonsacura.com/showAssem...&searchString=

And then here is an exploded view of the 2009 exhaust parts:

http://parts.sonsacura.com/showAssem...&searchString=

18210-TK5-A02 appears to be the A pipe (J pipe) in the 2012 model, and in the 2011 and 2010 model.

18210-TK5-A01 appears to be the A pipe (J pipe) in the 2009 model.

The exploded view chart for all models is TK44B0201A.

Logic would indicate that if the pipe fits the 09-11 car, and the part number and diagram are the same on the 10,11,and 12 car, that the pipe should also fit the 12 car.

I would use this site and make sure the 3rd cats are identical, and I'd say you've got a winner if so.

These are different part numbers - which may mean that it's the same part, just a newer year, or that there are in fact part differences.

HeartTLs

iTrader: (5)

I also agree about the quality of his products being top notch; XLR8 boasts about using higher quality steel, when I compared it to rv6 they were identical to me. Until XLR8/ATLP comes out with a v2 jpipe getting anything but the RV6 one would be dumb. It's less expensive than the current XLR8 test pipe+jpipe combo and better performing. Lastly about Richies customer service, yea, at times it might take 2-3 calls to get through but when I installed my HFPC 4hrs into the install I called his cell at 1am eastern and he gladly picked up to give me pointers and said he'd be up for another hour incase I needed more help. I don't know how many CEOs give you their personal cell phone numbers let alone pick up way afterhours. I was sold about Richies products because of how highly the 3G guys regard them, after I dealt with Rich and used the products myself, I knew why.

01clsstock

Thats great customer service, but i cant by a performance part with no proven performance gains. IE: hp or dynos

alienstudio

Contacted richie. And he said he is found one 2012 TL owner who is able to come in and let them test fit the j pipe. But the car owner never contacted them since. So they are still trying to look for a 2012 who can test fit.

HeartTLs

iTrader: (5)

01clsstock there was a dyno gain of 20whp/19wtor on the 3G side (unsure if that was on the 3.2 or 3.5), regardless we have atleast .2 more displacement, the gains would be the same if not slightly higher.

EL19

iTrader: (4)

would anyone mind measuring the dimensions of their RV6 or stock(4G TL AWD) jpipe for me? Like length from the end to end and width of the whole unit?

HeartTLs

iTrader: (5)

I'll check out the stock length and diameter tomorrow of the stock jpipe. Would you like me to include the length of the stock cat or not?

EL19

iTrader: (4)

Thank you! I really appreciate it. With the cat is fine. I am trying to see how it stacks up to the one on my RL as the stock jpipe's flex pipe is starting to fray and will be leaking soon. Thanks again

Excelerate

iTrader: (1)

Just to clarify there is a difference in the quality of our steel and material. US grade T304 stainless steel is far higher quality than Taiwanese and Chinese T304 stainless steel; and honestly most of the Chinese T304 stainless steel is T409 stainless steel. Just because a pipe is polished doesn't mean it's the same quality. I'm not saying Richie makes a bad product; he does a good job with is product but it isn't the same quality.

And since you have no dynos of his product vs our product it's impossible for you to claim his pipe performs better.

HeartTLs

iTrader: (5)

I didn't make an assumption on perceived quality based on the finish of either product, but rather the weight, thickness of the metal, weave of the flex pipe and the welds. And while I don't have a dyno to prove his product performs better it's known that the long jpipe, had higher gains on the 3G TL. I also know you're a pro at this that wouldn't waste time, effort and resources designing and ultimately producing a long jpipe if it didn't out perform your current design. Right?

Ag Surfer

Just purchased. Can't wait to receive and install this!

HeartTLs

iTrader: (5)

Congrats, it's an easy install if you have access to a lift or some jack stands

Ag Surfer

Installed on Friday. Most bang for the buck performance mod available for the TL in my opinion. Car just screams to redline now.

KarKraze

Nice,can't wait to feel the increase that it provides.

potmilkz

whats the difference between this rv6 and atlp jpipe?

audi_to_TL

iTrader: (2)

RV6 pipe is longer and there is no need for a test pipe or high flow cat

Also the pricing for RV6 is 425 and for excelerate is 425 plus 150 for the test pipe.

potmilkz

ok so there are 3 j-pipes out right now

atlp
excelerate
rv6

is atlp and excelerate same j-pipe? on their website they have two different one for sale.

audi_to_TL

iTrader: (2)

The ATLP Jpipe is made for FWD only.

There are only 2 jpipes for the AWD.

Yes I noticed that heeltoe is selling the excelerate Jpipe....maybe they have a deal with each other??

potmilkz

ok so atlp is not the long tube one right? and is the only j-pipe available for FWD.

and rv6 is the only one that does not need race/test pipe.

rv6 and XLR8 is only for awd.

Edward'TLS

Man, it's all too confusing with ATLP, RV6, XLR8, FWD, AWD, .....

Can someone knowledgeable enough please summarize ?

potmilkz

lol yea im trying to get an answer too.

Ag Surfer

I should mention that shipping was fast and the product itself was mint. The welds were perfect. The guys at the muffler shop I had install it were ooohing and ahhing over how nice the work was. Shame to put a work of art under the car where it cant be seen!

Pete2010

I'll do my best.

ATLP (Acura TL Parts - Based out of CA) - They are the normal length NON long J-pipe - you would need your factory Cat (Catalytic Converter), HFC (High flow cat) or race pipe (just a straight tube).

I believe ATLP has full exhaust parts for both FWD and AWD TL's - but don't quote me there.

The RV6 (richie v6 - vendor here) - is a long tube -you don't need a Cat - the long tube replaces it.

RV6 and XLR8 (http://store.excelerateperformance.com/) exhaust components are only for AWD i believe.

Hope that helps!