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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 08:35 AM
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hello i have a question... why those the RLX is faster the. my TL Sh-awd the RLX is. a 3.5 and only 5 hp more the. my TL is it the transmission? i drove a RLX for a week and let me tell u the car is fast...
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 08:47 AM
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 09:33 AM
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Im confused at what your asking? Are you asking if the RLX is faster than the TL?
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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no sorry ... why the Rlx is faster then the Tl....
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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Considering your location is Utah, it's hard to believe English is not your native language. That said if it is please put more effort into expressing your thoughts & opinions. If not, please still put more effort! The FWD RLX is surprisingly quick for the Acura line up. As to why it's faster than your TL there are many variables to consider.

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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 04:14 PM
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Maybe English is his second language.
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by civic_ef9
hello i have a question... why those the RLX is faster the. my TL Sh-awd the RLX is. a 3.5 and only 5 hp more the. my TL is it the transmission? i drove a RLX for a week and let me tell u the car is fast...
Let me clear this up guys...from what I can translate, this is what he is asking/saying:


"Hello, I have a question...why is the RLX faster than my TL SH-AWD? The RLX is a 3.5 and only 5 hp more than my TL. Is it the transmission? I drove an RLX for a week and let me tell you, the car is FAST..."


I've never driven one, so I don't know...what are the compared times on these two vehicles?
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 04:35 PM
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holy crap. i cant google translate this...


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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 06:29 PM
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lol thanks Losimus...
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by civic_ef9
hello i have a question... why those the RLX is faster the. my TL Sh-awd the RLX is. a 3.5 and only 5 hp more the. my TL is it the transmission? i drove a RLX for a week and let me tell u the car is fast...
did you by any chance drove the new hybrid rlx? it has 377hp when all 3 electric motors kick in. definitely would be faster than TL.
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Old Feb 25, 2014 | 12:50 AM
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Thanks to the "Direct Fuel Injection" technology, the newer DI 3.5L-V6 has a much flatter power delivery curve, especially with more usable torque from low to mid rpm range.

Thus the faster car.
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Old Feb 25, 2014 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sympley
did you by any chance drove the new hybrid rlx? it has 377hp when all 3 electric motors kick in. definitely would be faster than TL.

I wasn't aware it's available for test drives for the general public? I think he's referring to the standard FWD RLX.
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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 08:39 PM
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yes FWD RLX ...I like it when you hit the Sports mode it just takes off...
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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 09:30 PM
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The new direct injection motors have significantly more area under the torque curve than the last generation motors. The end result is a car that feels faster because there is more usable torque across a broader part of the rev range.

The RLX is a surprisingly enjoyable car from behind the wheel.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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The new direct injection motors have significantly more area under the torque curve than the last generation motors. The end result is a car that feels faster because there is more usable torque across a broader part of the rev range.

The RLX is a surprisingly enjoyable car from behind the wheel.
A smother power curve and torque is what makes vehicles much more driveable and enjoyable. Something most hondas have never had.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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A smother power curve and torque is what makes vehicles much more driveable and enjoyable. Something most hondas have never had.
Because of Honda's stubbornness refusal to FOLLOW other automakers in implementing "direct injection" (DI) technology in it's automotive engines, until now.

Almost all top automakers have been using DI engines for years, with excellent results of both high hp and good fuel economy. Audi had started using DI technology almost 9 years ago.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Because of Honda's stubbornness refusal to FOLLOW other automakers in implementing "direct injection" (DI) technology in it's automotive engines, until now.

Almost all top automakers have been using DI engines for years, with excellent results of both high hp and good fuel economy. Audi had started using DI technology almost 9 years ago.

Yeah, Honda always stays away from the pack to be "innovative", but it ends up hurting them, with TORQUELESS engines. Although, they were ahead of the pack with variable valve timing. At least their engines last longer then most Audi's/Volkswagen's though...I guess it's a trade off.
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Because of Honda's stubbornness refusal to FOLLOW other automakers in implementing "direct injection" (DI) technology in it's automotive engines, until now.

Almost all top automakers have been using DI engines for years, with excellent results of both high hp and good fuel economy. Audi had started using DI technology almost 9 years ago.
And VW/Audi (all german) are having so much trouble with those DI engines with massive carbon buildup. The technology isn't as great as you're making it out to be. The germans just can't get it right and it's not uncommon for 20k miles to lose 10% horsepower due to carbon buildup. And it's not easy or cheap to clean the carbon out of the engine.

Here's a link to a DI engine with 28k miles. Those pics are the norm for these engines. http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...Carbon-Buildup

Also those DCT/DSG/PDK transmissions are garbage for anything other than aggressive driving. Just another thing the germans can't seem to get right.

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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 12:59 AM
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^^^^^

Are the Honda Earth Dreams DI motors immune from the dreaded carbon build-up ?
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
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Are the Honda Earth Dreams DI motors immune from the dreaded carbon build-up ?
Too early to tell. They have not been on the market that long, but so far, there have not been any reports yet of premature carbon build-up.
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 09:38 PM
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Had the 2.0T FSI on my Jetta, it was great engine when new but then the buildup started and cam follower issues. Sold it with 85K on it. VW wanted $2600 for the cleaning of deposits, and around $4000 for the cam follower. I said seee yaaa.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Too early to tell. They have not been on the market that long, but so far, there have not been any reports yet of premature carbon build-up.
Some members make it sound like the Honda DI motors are immune from the carbon deposit problem, which is inconclusive at this early stage.

I wonder if Honda has released technical information on measures implemented on it's new DI motors in terms of stopping carbon from building up inside ?
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 11:38 PM
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Not to go off topic from the OP but on the DI conversation, i traversed the audi forums for a long time while deciding between the tl and a s5 and i was deterred from the s5 purely on the carbon build up issues. I did gather though that hard driving/spirited drivers saw less buildup than the daily commuter drivers. This fact would neglect of course any gas mileage benefits ha. I have not been hearing much about buildups since they have switched over to superchargers in the newer models but it may too early to tell or too much work for most guys to take off the manifold now.

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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 06:55 PM
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^^^^^

I previously had a C6 A6 with the very first generation Audi DI V6 engine. I used nothing but premium gas and performed follow-the-clock maintenance servicing (free from Audi of course), there was not even a slightest symptom of inside carbon buildup.

However, even though less severe than earlier Audi engines, the Audi DI V6 was still having the "high oil consumption" issue, which is notorious for VW/Audi engines.

But my Acura 3.7L-V6 is also burning oil, damn.
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
^^^^^

I previously had a C6 A6 with the very first generation Audi DI V6 engine. I used nothing but premium gas and performed follow-the-clock maintenance servicing (free from Audi of course), there was not even a slightest symptom of inside carbon buildup.

However, even though less severe than earlier Audi engines, the Audi DI V6 was still having the "high oil consumption" issue, which is notorious for VW/Audi engines.

But my Acura 3.7L-V6 is also burning oil, damn.
Yea my 3.7 is also burning oil but i just got the car so i have been having a lot of spirited drives and like any vtec honda motor it burns through some oil after engagement
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