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Old 08-22-2010, 04:03 PM
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Old 08-23-2010, 11:29 AM
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Old 08-26-2010, 12:10 PM
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Brembo 330:


CLEARANCES FOR BIG BRAKE KIT
A = 41mm B = 110mm C = 192mm

· After looking at my car I am concerned that if these measurements are comparable to what we will get 19” A-spec wheels may not provide enough clearance.

If we use a 355mm, there is no way it will fit

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Old 08-26-2010, 12:57 PM
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After searching I found an option that would work for both. Enkie GTC01 19x8.5. (450ea) However, if that is the case, this is a budget buster for me right now as I'm getting new wheels for the RDX and tires for both cars at the end of September.
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Originally Posted by Mr Marco
After searching I found an option that would work for both. Enkie GTC01 19x8.5. (450ea) However, if that is the case, this is a budget buster for me right now as I'm getting new wheels for the RDX and tires for both cars at the end of September.
Disregard, Enkie GTC01 is not available in 5x120. Too bad because it looks hot in black chrome and only weights in at 24lbs.

Any thoughts on this Excelerate?

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What about the TSW Nurburgring???? 20x10 for the rear 20x8.5 for the fronts.
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
What about the TSW Nurburgring???? 20x10 for the rear 20x8.5 for the fronts.
I've seen it in GRM and I love the look. I couldn't find any specs for it on-line so I'm not sure about brake clearance. Looks like they also do not offer any 20’s;

Part #................. Size....... Offset
1980NUR355120G76 19x8 5x120 35 MATTE GUNMETAL

1980NUR355120S76 19x8 5x120 35 GUNMETAL W/MIRR

1990NUR205120G76 19x9 5x120 20 MATTE GUNMETAL

1990NUR205120S76 19x9 5x120 20 GUNMETAL W/MIRR

1995NUR415120G76 19x9.5 5x120 41 MATTE GUNMETAL

edit: Looking at the Nurbergring in their pic, the spokes look really thin and far out on the wheel. If they haven't photchopped it, they probably would work.

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Check TSW's site, Im pretty sure they offer then in 20"...... at least I think Im sure
Old 08-26-2010, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
Check TSW's site, Im pretty sure they offer then in 20"...... at least I think Im sure
Ya, already did. Those part #'s came directly from TSW, they even gave QTY, so it's current.
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Damn,..... I could have sworn that i saw them in 20". well there goes my wheels. I have to find a replacement........bullsh!t.
Old 08-26-2010, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
Damn,..... I could have sworn that i saw them in 20". well there goes my wheels. I have to find a replacement........bullsh!t.
The lug pattern is probably not supported. The bigger issue for me is having to buy them in the first place. I'm already spending $3,200 cash in September. I could charge another $3,500-4,000 in brakes, but there's no room for another $1,600 in wheels. I need a little wiggle room in case I have to buy a new furnace or something this winter. (Besides the trip to Maui that wife needs so I have an excuse to blow money on something I need)
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I know for sure that the lug pattern is supported.... then again I knew for sure they cam in 20" lol.
I hear you on the cost side. Im waiting for my promotion to satisfy the cost issue..... well I got the promotion just not the pay lol.
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what company was gonna try to produce something?
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We could hope for a Brembo. This thread has been in Limbo as we are at least 1 short of the number needed for a template. I second your, ANYONE?

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STOPTECH would make the kit for us. I would imagine the kit would be in the $2500 range and would either be a 332 or 355mm 2 piece disc with a 4 piston caliper. However, I would need at least 10 people on this list to make it happen.
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Originally Posted by PhoenixUnit
I remeber i called Brembo a few months back to see if they were interested in making a BBK for the 09+ Tl. They told me that in order to start development they needed at least six or eight people who were interested in buying one. Im not sure if this is still possible or not but maybe someone should give it a go.
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STOPTECH would make the kit for us. I would imagine the kit would be in the $2500 range and would either be a 332 or 355mm 2 piece disc with a 4 piston caliper. However, I would need at least 10 people on this list to make it happen.
Good to hear from you. Why not Brembo and 8 VS. StopTech and 10?
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Well I would need to know first, will it fit under 18" stock wheels? Howabout the 19" HPT wheel option? Also how will this setup effect brake bias? I know sometimes it throws all out of whack when you add huge stopping power up front. I used to run Spoon calipers on my old civic and man were they awesome, but they were designed for the setup I had at the time.
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Originally Posted by CapoTL
Well I would need to know first, will it fit under 18" stock wheels? Howabout the 19" HPT wheel option? Also how will this setup effect brake bias? I know sometimes it throws all out of whack when you add huge stopping power up front. I used to run Spoon calipers on my old civic and man were they awesome, but they were designed for the setup I had at the time.
From what I've been able to discern from reading online specs; If they are Brembo…No and no. And front bias would not be effected enough to harm a street cars manners.
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Originally Posted by Mr Marco
Good to hear from you. Why not Brembo and 8 VS. StopTech and 10?
Brembo makes great quality products but I can tell you now it will be $1,000 over the STOPTECH BBK. We've got a good working relationship with STOPTECH and we think it will be the best solution.

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Well I would need to know first, will it fit under 18" stock wheels? Howabout the 19" HPT wheel option? Also how will this setup effect brake bias? I know sometimes it throws all out of whack when you add huge stopping power up front. I used to run Spoon calipers on my old civic and man were they awesome, but they were designed for the setup I had at the time.
We'd have to build the kit first to see if it will fit. If anyone has dimensions of the stock wheel (specifically measurements of offset, back spacing, wheel spoke distances from the hub, etc) that would be great.
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The Stoptech price is certainly more desirable.
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
Brembo makes great quality products but I can tell you now it will be $1,000 over the STOPTECH BBK. We've got a good working relationship with STOPTECH and we think it will be the best solution.



We'd have to build the kit first to see if it will fit. If anyone has dimensions of the stock wheel (specifically measurements of offset, back spacing, wheel spoke distances from the hub, etc) that would be great.
Soooo, This is where YOU left it. I'll bet you haven't called StopTech, let alone Brembo. OR prove me wrong and get on the phone and produce something!
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Soooo, This is where YOU left it. I'll bet you haven't called StopTech, let alone Brembo. OR prove me wrong and get on the phone and produce something!
I would think a 43 year old would act a little more mature but apparently not. I've left it in the hands of STOPTECH and Acura owners. We need 10 people for the STOPTECH BBK to be produced. So I need to see a list that size before I go any further with this project; we've already spent some time with STOPTECH on this project. So, instead of complaining and acting like an e-thug, help spread the word or put up some funds so I can see you're serious.
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
I would think a 43 year old would act a little more mature but apparently not. I've left it in the hands of STOPTECH and Acura owners. We need 10 people for the STOPTECH BBK to be produced. That's not what you said originaly. So I need to see a list that size before I go any further with this project; we've already spent some time with STOPTECH on this project. So, instead of complaining and acting like an e-thug, help spread the word or put up some funds so I can see you're serious.
Here's what you said on another post:
Originally Posted by Excelerate
Why upgrade the brakes? You offered to help us on this issue that WE brought up. bar, just as all the previous generation TL's have. It will reduce body roll and help prevent the vehicle from plowing into the curb.

And, lastly, if all your comments in my threads are going to be negative comments and irrelevant requests, then stay out of my threads. There's plenty of people who are willing to volunteer and enjoy a larger RSB.
Are you going to help us with a product we NEED/WANT or shove some other product we don't need down our throats?
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Honestly I regret the angry posts I have directed at you. It seems that you genuinely DO offer great products and really try to give us an affordable alternative to Acura’s extremely limited upgrades and dealer performance options. However, you have dropped the ball on the BBK and we are only 1 person short of your request. Please reconsider our BBK needs.

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^^ Don't really understand how anyone dropped the ball. We should be lucky we have people who are willing to take risks in this economy to offer mods for our cars.

I would bet that Excelerate needs those 8 or 10 people because of the costs that are associated with building a product like that. Development is expensive, and no one is going to make a product if people arn't going to buy it.

While I would love to put my name on the list, I'm not sure if they would clear my RJ Legend Type II's, so I would have to see a finished product with measurements before I could make that kind of financial decision. I'm guessing others are in the same boat.
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I'm gonna withdraw my name from this list as 2500 is a bit much right now and I can't really make that kind of commitment right now.

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Originally Posted by petec2010
^^ Don't really understand how anyone dropped the ball. We should be lucky we have people who are willing to take risks in this economy to offer mods for our cars.

I would bet that Excelerate needs those 8 or 10 people because of the costs that are associated with building a product like that. Development is expensive, and no one is going to make a product if people arn't going to buy it.

While I would love to put my name on the list, I'm not sure if they would clear my RJ Legend Type II's, so I would have to see a finished product with measurements before I could make that kind of financial decision. I'm guessing others are in the same boat.
If Brembo needs 6-8 people, why not choose Brembo? (An industry leader) XLR8 is not building or developing a product. XLR8 is a middleman in Georgia.
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If Brembo needs 6-8 people, why not choose Brembo? (An industry leader) XLR8 is not building or developing a product. XLR8 is a middleman in Georgia.
True, XLR8 is not developing or building this product, but they will be the ones that get the company to develop and build it. Unless of course you think that you can get Brembo to develop a Big Brake Kit for the 4th Gen TL by calling them as one customer--XLR8 works with us to get a listing of people to show the companies that the part will sell if they develop it.

I'm not sure why you are so upset...we have a company that is building parts for our cars, and working with other companies to develop new parts.
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Originally Posted by ERR0RMACR0
True, XLR8 is not developing or building this product, but they will be the ones that get the company to develop and build it. Unless of course you think that you can get Brembo to develop a Big Brake Kit for the 4th Gen TL by calling them as one customer--XLR8 works with us to get a listing of people to show the companies that the part will sell if they develop it.

I'm not sure why you are so upset...we have a company that is building parts for our cars, and working with other companies to develop new parts. Did you read what I wrote? 4 posts ago, "It seems that you genuinely DO offer great products and really try to give us an affordable alternative to Acura’s extremely limited upgrades and dealer performance options." Put your money where your mouth is and add your name to the list! Macro
Correction; XLR8 is in CT not GA. I spelled the name wrong when I was searching BBB.

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Yep, It appears that I have pissed off the all mighty powerful XLR8. My apologies to those on the want/need list. Lockwood will not respond to my PM.
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Ok, so to make this BBK come closer to reality and production I am going to need 8 purchasers. We will also need a test-fitter in the So Cal so that we can produce the kit. Based on our experience and speaking with STOPTECH I'm thinking a 4-piston 355mm disc will be the best setup.

There will be a choice of red, black or silver calipers; drilled rotors will be $100 extra and zinc coating will be $70 extra. Anyone who purchases on the initial run will get the kit for $2195 shipped to the cont 48 US for the standard color/slotted rotor combination.

So those of you on the list who are ready to pull the trigger please re-confirm your name. We are moving closer to the R&D phase and I need to get figures to determine if this kit will be possible.
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whats required for for initial deposit? like 50%?
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I'm still in, if they need a test car I can do it. I live like 15 minutes from there office/warehouse.

I have a 2010 Acura TL SH-AWD 6 Speed with HPTs

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whats required for for initial deposit? like 50%?
Yes 50% up front and 50% when the kits go intro production.

Originally Posted by FallenTSX
I'm still in, if they need a test car I can do it. I live like 15 minutes from there office/warehouse.

I have a 2010 Acura TL SH-AWD 6 Speed with HPTs

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Perfect, please send me your email and phone # to sales@excelerateperformance.com so I can set you up with STOPTECH.
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Yes 50% up front and 50% when the kits go intro production.



Perfect, please send me your email and phone # to sales@excelerateperformance.com so I can set you up with STOPTECH.
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