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Old 02-15-2009 | 11:47 AM
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Nav and Nav Traffic SUCK!

There are two major highways in Brooklyn, the BQE (Brooklyn/Queens Expwy) and the Belt Pkwy. My Nav traffic does not give me any info for the Belt Pkwy, almost as if it doesn't consider it a highway. Is it because it's a parkway and not an expressway? Anybody run into this problem?

While I'm here, it's worth mentioning that I hate the navigation system, in that at least 50% of the time it won't show me an address. I'll start with street name, but when it gets to putting the street number in, only 7 and 5 will be lit up for instance, when in fact the address is 1221 or something. And these are not rural backroads we're talking about, nor are they addresses newly created since the navigation system was created. These are major urban streets that have been on the map for probably 100 years. This is not even mentioning the ass backwards way the Nav leads me EVERYWHERE. Last night in Manhattan, it was telling me to take the West Side Highway, through massive construction (which was NOT on the map) and even worse traffic, and is without a doubt the longer route (distance wise and time wise) than the FDR Drive. Also, where the hell was my traffic rerouting? It was certainly on, and not once did it do what it was supposed to do.

Anybody else have these problems with it? Is this system basically useless unless you're completely and utterly lost? I mean, what good is a guidance system if it's just going to lead you down the longest, most traffic-ridden roads and not offer an alternative like it's supposed to?
Old 02-15-2009 | 11:59 AM
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you might try alternate routing - change tollroads on / off, same for highways, direct -cant remember the other choices I know its not fool proof. At least in my area it's a good value. Seems to have less value in (imo) denser big city downtown areas. Out on the open road it does fine. any problems often seem to be as you get extremely close to your destination - example w/ my 3G took a 1200 mile trip to Disney World - Did great until deciding the exact exit at destination. this is an example of the few failures - most of the time it works just fine. Just don't do the like on the Office where they drive into water as the nav said to turn.
Old 02-15-2009 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hydr0
There are two major highways in Brooklyn, the BQE (Brooklyn/Queens Expwy) and the Belt Pkwy. My Nav traffic does not give me any info for the Belt Pkwy, almost as if it doesn't consider it a highway. Is it because it's a parkway and not an expressway? Anybody run into this problem?

While I'm here, it's worth mentioning that I hate the navigation system, in that at least 50% of the time it won't show me an address. I'll start with street name, but when it gets to putting the street number in, only 7 and 5 will be lit up for instance, when in fact the address is 1221 or something. And these are not rural backroads we're talking about, nor are they addresses newly created since the navigation system was created. These are major urban streets that have been on the map for probably 100 years. This is not even mentioning the ass backwards way the Nav leads me EVERYWHERE. Last night in Manhattan, it was telling me to take the West Side Highway, through massive construction (which was NOT on the map) and even worse traffic, and is without a doubt the longer route (distance wise and time wise) than the FDR Drive. Also, where the hell was my traffic rerouting? It was certainly on, and not once did it do what it was supposed to do.

Anybody else have these problems with it? Is this system basically useless unless you're completely and utterly lost? I mean, what good is a guidance system if it's just going to lead you down the longest, most traffic-ridden roads and not offer an alternative like it's supposed to?
I agree that NAV Traffic sucks, it is lagging when it has info anyway, no better than the FREE traffic stations on XM. As for the NAVI, maybe it is a NY thing, but I find the NAV to be incrediably accurate here in ATL.
Old 02-15-2009 | 01:55 PM
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In Massachusetts and Connecticut, the NAV has been excellent. It even showed me faster routes to get to places I've been driving to for years.
Old 02-15-2009 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by crxb
Did great until deciding the exact exit at destination. this is an example of the few failures - most of the time it works just fine. Just don't do the like on the Office where they drive into water as the nav said to turn.
LOL! I know exactly what you mean. On my way to work, it tells me to get off the highway two exits early and take the streets which is easily 15 minutes longer than staying on the highway until the correct exit. I'm tellin ya, I just don't understand this thing. Finding the correct address is really annoying me though, sometimes it doesn't even find the street name that I'm putting in. It's almost a crapshoot as to whether I'm actually gonna find an address in there. As for the nav traffic, I'm definitely not keeping it, since it won't even tell me the traffic on the highway I take every day, which as I said is one of only two highways in the city. Very surprising.

As for rerouting, you're right in that that button might fix the problem, but that's only good for when I know there are multiple routes and that one is probably better than the other. If I'm going in blind, I'll have no idea which way is best, and I thought I could rely on my nav to lead the way with the most efficient, least trafficky route without me having to second and third guess it. I really don't think I can though =(

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Old 02-15-2009 | 04:58 PM
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Nav Traffic is bad in Chicago too. It always shows the same colors, and traffic speed is always different then what XM says.
Old 02-15-2009 | 05:21 PM
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not every market has nav traffic...when i got my tl in 08, i was able to get incident information, but not traffic, it wasnt supported in dallas at that time....
Old 02-15-2009 | 05:29 PM
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I have no problems here. Nav traffic is pretty accurate.
Old 02-15-2009 | 05:40 PM
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Hydro, I have your solution. MOVE OUT OF NY! JK. I spend a week in NY about ten years ago, it's a mad house! (C.Heston) The NAV system couldn't possibly work as fast as New Yorkers do! There's no issues here in LA with NAV GPS, actually it's spot on. As far as accuracy and best routes, nothing beats good old fashion sense of direction and knowing the route. Mapquest may give directions, but it's usually a basic route, and you might figure out of quicker one. The NAV in the TL is what it is.
Old 02-15-2009 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bmode
As far as accuracy and best routes, nothing beats good old fashion sense of direction and knowing the route.
That's the problem. I have no sense of direction lol. I can get lost going around the block lol.
Old 02-16-2009 | 01:02 AM
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When you enter your location...select route options and it should give you a few different routes... Or like today I was stuck in some nasty traffic and most certainly going to hit some more...I hit the "detour" button and it made a pretty clever route that worked very well to get me crosstown and out of manhattan to the airport

I found the system to work pretty well. the +1 over garmin is that it can do dead reckoning in the tunnels and valleys of manhattan.. but there is a learning curve and I am still in the steep part of it
Old 02-16-2009 | 01:05 AM
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No offense, but how about using some common sense??? Plus Acura never guarantees that you will be zipping by halted parking lot highways laughing at their lack of superior technology that you now possess.
Old 02-16-2009 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfmft2
No offense, but how about using some common sense??? Plus Acura never guarantees that you will be zipping by halted parking lot highways laughing at their lack of superior technology that you now possess.
LOL that was pretty funny. That's another thing notably absent, along with lack of directional acumen...lack of common sense.
Old 02-16-2009 | 07:29 AM
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I have a 2006 RL and just received my 2009 TL SH-AWD with Tech on Friday night (02/13/2009) and I have used the navigation all weekend and haven't had any issues. It was accurate (as always). I even used it on the Belt Parkway on Saturday when I went to 212motoring in Sheepshead Bay. I guess it is all about personal preference. I have seen the navigation systems in other cars (my wife has a 2009 Mercedes truck) and Acura's system is far more accurate and intuitive.
Old 02-16-2009 | 03:46 PM
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I use the navigation system (3g) to get to places I normally would not know how to get too. I don't do too well trying to read mapquest instructions when I'm driving, so I appreciate being able to just look at the screen and listen to the audible directions.
I'm sure there are better, faster ways to get where I'm going; but I really don't care as long as I get there.....and I always do get there...eventually
Old 02-16-2009 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by scv76_
I use the navigation system (3g) to get to places I normally would not know how to get too. I don't do too well trying to read mapquest instructions when I'm driving, so I appreciate being able to just look at the screen and listen to the audible directions.
I'm sure there are better, faster ways to get where I'm going; but I really don't care as long as I get there.....and I always do get there...eventually
Yeah I guess you're right. Maybe I'm asking too much of it lol. Lemme ask though, do you get Nav Traffic displaying on the Belt? Mine shows no red/orange/green lines. It's fine on the bridge, BQE, etc. No lines on West Side Hwy either. Same with you?
Old 02-16-2009 | 11:02 PM
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hydr0, I'm not in NY so I can't say what's going on with your system
Most freeways here have the sensors in the roads, so they work (exception 210)
Old 02-17-2009 | 07:47 AM
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Hydr0 I just test drove the SH-AWD yesterday around LIC and Woodside. Part of the test drive was on the BQE and the nav system read out exactly where we were the whole time on all roads and highways. Is it possible there's something that the dealer needas to check in your nav system to adjust it? Just wondering because the one I drove yesterday was dead on. Good luck.
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