avmike

I have a strange problem. My new TL falses my Valentine One radar detector (current model) constantly. If falses with a low signal K band. I have determined the following:

1) It only happens when the car is running or in ON position without engine running. Does not happen when the car ignition is in the "accessory" position.
2) It is coming from the rear of the car - shows down arrow when detector faces front, up arrow if you turn the detector arround.
3) I turned off the blind-spot system (though haven't pulled the fuse)
4) It is fairly directional - if I face the detector to the floor or side windows signal is weaker or disappears.
5) Voltage is fine - 13.3x V

Any ideas?

Edward'TLS

Use an extended power cord, take the Valentine outside and go around the car to check where the falsing source comes from.

avmike

Well... I'm pretty sure it is the blind spot system. I read posts from from BMW owners having this problem. The solution for them was to disable POP mode on the Valentine. I did this. It still happens.

For grins I tried a coworkers Solo S2 that he wanted me to benchmark against the Valentine. It does not false. Then again... it is about the weakest radar detector I have ever seen.

Guess I will call Valentine in the morning.

Stew4HD

Ah.. makes sense that the BSI would set it off. Please keep us posted on what valentine says. The false signal has rendered my unit about worthless/irritating as hell..etc.. etc.

avmike

Anyone with a 2012 Advance and a Passport 9500ix please chime in with your experiences. I'd hate to part with my Valentine, but if they can't address the problem - I'm not getting rid of the car!

I'll just move the Valentine to full-time Porsche duty.

Sgt128

I got an idea, don't speed! I'm just messing with ya. We all speed some. Just be careful when you do.

jnc2000

I have a 9500ix... I'll see if I can take a loaner out for a test drive and report back.

cjTL

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This is a bummer to hear. I passed a newer BMW 7 series today and it made my V1 go crazy for a few seconds. Hopefully the units can be reprogrammed.

BCA

I agree with the others...sounds like the blind spot detection for sure. My 2012 Tech does not cause any falses on my V1. Please let us know how it turns out.

Mr Marco

Had a K-40 that would set off buddy's V-1 anytime I got too close to his bumper. I was forced to turn off the K-40 and fly wingman position on road trips every time. Surely BSI issue.

avmike

Update. Defintely BSI. No solution from V1. For many other cars, disabling POP mode solves the problem. Not so for the Acura. Tried many different programming changes. The only thing that solves it is disabling K band. Not a safe solution.

I have ordered an Escort Redline to test. If that does not work, I'll try the 9500ix.

jnc2000, if you are able to complete the test, please let us know.

TurboRush

This may sound dumb, but I had this issue with my avalanche which had no blind spot or radar based detection system (always low strength rear detection)... It was hardwired and sat pretty high up in the windsheild, I eventually figured out it was reflecting off of something, I adjusted it more to the middle of the windsheild and problem went away.

Always worth a shot since its free.

Stew4HD

I contacted Valentine as well... it is very irritating to have that false alert all the time. I have to keep the volume off on mine. It's mounted within my line of sight, so I can see when a new target is found. .. but still...

avmike

TurboRush, I tried that. Anywhere in the car the V1 will get set off by the BLS.

However. I am happy to report that the Escort Redline (when in Auto mode) does not false due to the BLS! In highway mode it does. Haven't spent a lot of time with it yet, but MAN this thing is heavy.

Also I would like to say kudos to Blendmount. They are shipping me a new mount for my Redline with a prepaid label to send back the newly purchased V1 mount. First class support!

Looks like the V1 gets fulltime Porsche duty! I will miss the arrows when in the Acura...

Vegas_TL04

I had this same problem with my 09 audi s5. V1 couldn't fix it. Finally stopped using it. I feel your pain. Nothing beats the v1

TurboRush

Even though I dont currently have this problem I am interested to hear what they say on the subject

avmike

They said, "Sorry, if you have already tried all the recommended settings: turning off POP, adding delay to K band, etc.. there is nothing more we can do."

So I bought the Redline - clicked one button to switch from Highway to Auto, and that was it!

Honestly, aside from this BLS issue, I think V1 should put some effort into some anti-falsing intelligence. It is a known fact that V1's false a lot, and we put up with it because we like the arrows. I think Escort has them beat here.

With that said, I will keep my V1 to use in the Porsche. I'll even upgrade it when/if they offer some substantial upgrade. But for now I must go "arrow-less" in the TL...

unlemming

I'm not sure "false" is the appropriate label, the car is using radar and the detector is detecting it. My question would be are the other detectors not picking it up or do they have the logic to rule it out as a threat?

But what really sucks is that you need to get this "drivers" aid to get ventilated seats.

Stew4HD

I picked up the Passport 9500ix an it does not alert on the BSI. It also has a GPS cancel as well

FYI, I love the feature and vented seats

avmike

The 9500ix was going to be my second choice if the Redline falsed. I chose the Redline because I wanted the longest range detector I could get coming from the V1. I have no need for the GPS feature - the Redline already falses a lot less than the V1 anyway...

Still miss the arrows though.

To address the comment of having to get the BSI system in order to get the cooled seats, I sort of agreed at first. I really got the Advance for the seats, nicer wheels and Michelin tires (can't stand Continentals).

I must say though, I like the BSI. I do a lot of highway driving to meet with my customers and the is a nice safety check when changing lanes. It works very well. In my experience it is a lot more accurate than the Volvo S60 that I test drove.

trail runner

Hi guys --I'm jumping in from the ZDX forum. I have a '11 ZDX Advanced. I have the exact low-level rearward k-band falsing with my V1. I've programmed my V1 to mute rearward k-band alerts which solved the problem with the Blind-Spot system. I'll still receive k-band alerts (from the sides and forward), the drawback being all k-band from the rear will be muted.
I'm waiting for my Blendmount kit to mount and wire my V1.
I hope this helps.

avmike

Yah. That works in the TL too. I just didn't feel comfortable doing that.

trail runner

Although muting the rearward k-band alerts may seem alittle risky (if you are in an area where k-band radar is used alot), I figure that I'll still receive side and front bounces from rear k-band radar -- much the same as other top-rated radar detectors without arrows would work (i.e. beltronics and escort). I hope I'm correct in my thinking, though it would be a great test for anyone out there with access to a V1 and an Escort/Bel.

Jimmmer

Interesting thread. I've had my eye on the 9500ix but have not pulled the trigger on it. What have you guys picked this up for? They are illegal to use where I am, but so is speeding!

Pseudomaniac

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I rocked the V1 for years, and then discovered how to take the Passport apart and make it , lets say "Broadcast". Even better thing about it is you don't care where you put it at that point as long as it has line of site...like it does in the lower grille.

Gonzilla

I wish they would come out with something that just picks up on police cars themselves, lol. That would be awesome!

hotwilli

Can you share how you made it "broadcast"?

SV-AWD

Just bought a '12 Advance that is being delivered this wk. Also have been a V1 happy customer for years. Is this issue still plaguing anyone? Hoping I won't have to pay $XXX bucks for a new radar. Thanks!

TinyRK

I noticed, that the 9500ix goes off with A Laser-Alert when it is too close to the navi-screen. But only when it's dark
I have it mounted below the rear view mirror

fryrice

wow sorry to bring back an old thread just picked up a 12 TL Adv and there is still no fix for this.

might have to sell the V1 and get the 9500xi =(

avmike

Have you checked with V1? They have released a software update since I experienced this problem. I'm not sure if it helps though since I switched to an Escort Redline, and moved the V1 over to my other car.

sockpuppet

At the risk of being seen as a highjacker, on a related note, I noticed yesterday that my 9500ix went off twice for an extended period, once on the way to work, and again on the way home. In the morning, it happened while I was behind a newer MDX (or perhaps it was the RDX...really wasn't paying that much attention), and coming home, I was behind a TLX. Couldn't help but wonder if the BSI emissions were causing the K alert. I certianly didn't see any enforcement units around at the time.

fryrice

checked with V1, no new updates still have to disable pop and possibly K Band alert...might have to sell my v1

but it looks like a lot of these new cars that comes equipped with BSI def sets off radar detectors.

my buddy just got the new audi s3 with adaptive cruise, BSI, and all that parking sensor crap...soon as i go near him my v1 goes crazy with K band haha

Edward'TLS

My Bel radar detector will scream like crazy, whenever my car is closing behind some MB vehicles equipped with blind spot monitor radar.

The presence of the MB blind spot monitor is very obvious due to that bright red arrow on the outer glass portion of the MB exterior side mirror.

Mjakaz09TL

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Hmm I haven't had that happen yet then again I don't have blind spot. However w headlights on when I pull into a parking lot that faces and all glass front building my laser goes off full blast. Turn off headlights and it stops, turn em on and bam again. Tho doesn't do on every glass window... odd

ITSJESTER

My Bel RX65 goes insane every time I get near any of the newer Acura/Honda models with BSI. Drives me nuts.

First time I switched it to highway mode to try and avoid the falses, thought I was gonna get a ticket. Cop whipped out and I started pulling over...he yanked an old beater van a few cars ahead of me. I just leave it on AUTO and deal with the falses now

avmike

An update to this thread. I bought the latest V1 which is supposed to have features to reject interference from blind spot systems, etc. It didn't solve the problem... My 2012 TL Advance still causes it to false. I sent it back. My Escort Redline is still going strong. I may try the new Escort Max, which now has directional arrows... but an outrageous price tag.

fryrice

Which Escort has arrorws built into the unit?

avmike

Escort Passport Max 360:

https://www.escortradar.com/max360/

ABDomega

Those with a V1 and falsing issues, I highly recommend (upgrading the firmware if you have to and) buying the V1connection for Android or V1connection LE, for iPhone and using the app YaV1. Among other things, with this setup and app you can use GPS lockouts and create custom sweeps to help eliminate any falses.