Will Acura offer a NON-AWD 6 speed manual ?
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I could see going for RWD with this power... sportscars often do though keep in mind that most Porsches now are AWD, but at least traction duties are divided by axel... but the AWD gives you a lot more control, which is important with the increased power and speed.
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Just saying.
It's this same thinking that led to the failure of the 2G RL saleswise.
#11
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I am not shocked. The TL is supposed to be a sporty car and there would be whiners on this forum complaining about the lack of it like they did before the finally introduced it on the 3G TL.
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I really don't think you'd want one (as unlikely as it is to happen). In my mind, the SH-AWD really makes the car. Not sure I would have bought one if it hadn't had the AWD.
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cjTL- what do you mean? Every 6MT that has been allocated to this area is gone (sold). In my area they sell like hotcakes. Do they sit on lots for a long time in your area? I personally feel that if they made a 6MT for the FWD version it would help sales and brand image.
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#18
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- Fix the styling; that isn't helping the brand.
- FWD
- Stickshift
- Smaller; the TL is rather large.
- Shorter wheelbase; the TL can't turn in a reasonable amount of space.
Or... they can position this (weakly) as a BMW 5-Series competitor, in which case having a torque-steer-monster for Rice Racers probably would hurt their aspirations of moving upmarket.
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Mademoiselle Chanel!!
Diversifying the line period sounds like a nice move. I also heard the same thing about no convertible being offered in the 2G Cl and 3G TL. Many like that Acura's come with many features otherwise options with other brands, but they don't have the variety, i.e convertible, various transmissions configurations, V-8, turbo or supercharger. Not that they are in that business but as the 1st Japanese car manufacturer to create a separate luxury brand it dizzy me that they haven't had a convertible or don't have a 2dr coupe any more.
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Torque steer is for men with little girly arms who cant hold the steering wheel tight
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258hp right?
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I call BS. I own a 270 hp car NOW with 6 speed and I dont find the torque steer to be bad at all. Furthermore the 2007 and 2008 type s 6 speed TL's had 286 HP and didnt have much problem with Torque steer either and they are arguably faster than the current 2010 SH AWD. ( 500 lbs lighter).
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Torque steer is for men with little girly arms who cant hold the steering wheel tight
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The base model is for the person that wants the TL but wants just the luxury factor, which includes not having to shift your own gears. The SH-AWD is for the more spirited enthuiast driver who wants a little sport in there luxury car (stiffer suspension, better seats, super handling awd for better control in the twisties) but not necessarily full sport to where you have to shift your own gears. The SH-AWD with manual trans is for the guy that wants the sportiest luxury acura who likes all the things of the regular SH-AWD but would rather control the car then the car control itself.
If you want a 6 speed, buy the 6 speed that's currently for sale and you want look back. Bu a base model 6 speed and you'll always wonder what your car is lacking compared to the SH-AWD. But your in luck since there isn't a base model 6 speed and you won't have to worry about that
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#25
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I call BS. I own a 270 hp car NOW with 6 speed and I dont find the torque steer to be bad at all. Furthermore the 2007 and 2008 type s 6 speed TL's had 286 HP and didnt have much problem with Torque steer either and they are arguably faster than the current 2010 SH AWD. ( 500 lbs lighter).
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In the first place, they'd probably have to do it with the 3.5, not the 3.7, for a number of reasons.
And the market is questionable.
Typically, nobody picks a manual transmission these days unless he's an enthusiast who is likely to want to also equip his car with other performance features.
I'm not saying you're a market of ONE, but I think it's not much more than that.
:-)
#27
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I guess I should rephrase that. In comparison to the 5AT SH-AWD, the 6MT sells less as fewer are produced. Last time I drove through the local Acura dealer here- Ed Martin Acura, and there were two 6MT's sitting on the lot. Two. Kinda weird.
#28
TL-SHAWD 6MT Rocks!
he car has so much more power now, that
it would bring back the torque steer issue.
Plus AWD is 100% more stable on curves, wet and sandy roads.
6MT are still made, for the sports enthusiast in mind,
and to use that gearbox they invested money on.
production is small, so it's for the elite that want it.
#29
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I came from the 07 Type-S 5AT. The torque steer was horrible. I can only image with the 6MT is was that much worse. I dropped off my 07 lease 8 months early and happily got into my 2010. Taking turns at speed, FWD FTL... Also the MT TL is 200lbs lighter than the 2009/10 5AT TL, so I don't know if we've figured out which is fastest.
The 04 TL was listed as having 270hp. I dont really notice torque steer on mine at all (not did I on the TL-S I drove). Then again I have never driven the TL SH-AWD 6 speed so it could be a case of me just being used to it. I do remember looking at a 5 speed altima years ago. Now THAT car had awful torque steer. Maybe it just doesnt bother me but I just do not feel it in my 04 tl which leads me to believe they can make a base 6 speed TL now. Im sure they wont do it though..Maybe there will be a 6 speed v6 tsx. I like the styling better on that car anyway.
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I came from the 07 Type-S 5AT. The torque steer was horrible. I can only image with the 6MT is was that much worse. I dropped off my 07 lease 8 months early and happily got into my 2010. Taking turns at speed, FWD FTL... Also the MT TL is 200lbs lighter than the 2009/10 5AT TL, so I don't know if we've figured out which is fastest.
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I call BS. I own a 270 hp car NOW with 6 speed and I dont find the torque steer to be bad at all. Furthermore the 2007 and 2008 type s 6 speed TL's had 286 HP and didnt have much problem with Torque steer either and they are arguably faster than the current 2010 SH AWD. ( 500 lbs lighter).
Torque steer is for men with little girly arms who cant hold the steering wheel tight![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Torque steer is for men with little girly arms who cant hold the steering wheel tight
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Really nice looking avatar pete ! Those wheels cant be stock could they ?
The 04 TL was listed as having 270hp. I dont really notice torque steer on mine at all (not did I on the TL-S I drove). Then again I have never driven the TL SH-AWD 6 speed so it could be a case of me just being used to it. I do remember looking at a 5 speed altima years ago. Now THAT car had awful torque steer. Maybe it just doesnt bother me but I just do not feel it in my 04 tl which leads me to believe they can make a base 6 speed TL now. Im sure they wont do it though..Maybe there will be a 6 speed v6 tsx. I like the styling better on that car anyway.
The 04 TL was listed as having 270hp. I dont really notice torque steer on mine at all (not did I on the TL-S I drove). Then again I have never driven the TL SH-AWD 6 speed so it could be a case of me just being used to it. I do remember looking at a 5 speed altima years ago. Now THAT car had awful torque steer. Maybe it just doesnt bother me but I just do not feel it in my 04 tl which leads me to believe they can make a base 6 speed TL now. Im sure they wont do it though..Maybe there will be a 6 speed v6 tsx. I like the styling better on that car anyway.
The 07/07 TL type S was rated at 286 hp. This rating is under the new rating system (which shaved 8-12 hp off every acura engines previous HP rating). Had the 07/08 TL type S been rated under the old system, it most likely would have been a 298-305HP engine.
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Really nice looking avatar pete ! Those wheels cant be stock could they ?
The 04 TL was listed as having 270hp. I dont really notice torque steer on mine at all (not did I on the TL-S I drove). Then again I have never driven the TL SH-AWD 6 speed so it could be a case of me just being used to it. I do remember looking at a 5 speed altima years ago. Now THAT car had awful torque steer. Maybe it just doesnt bother me but I just do not feel it in my 04 tl which leads me to believe they can make a base 6 speed TL now. Im sure they wont do it though..Maybe there will be a 6 speed v6 tsx. I like the styling better on that car anyway.
The 04 TL was listed as having 270hp. I dont really notice torque steer on mine at all (not did I on the TL-S I drove). Then again I have never driven the TL SH-AWD 6 speed so it could be a case of me just being used to it. I do remember looking at a 5 speed altima years ago. Now THAT car had awful torque steer. Maybe it just doesnt bother me but I just do not feel it in my 04 tl which leads me to believe they can make a base 6 speed TL now. Im sure they wont do it though..Maybe there will be a 6 speed v6 tsx. I like the styling better on that car anyway.
Yea, i really wish they would take the 6MT from the TL and put it into the v6 TSX... that would be a much more attractive car.
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