jasonwdp10

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=914687

This is sad

coffeefingers

TSX on a roll homey!!!!

normallywho

That doesn't look too bad to me. If you look at the YTD sales, the TL is #2 and in the monthly sales, it's still turning out decent numbers. It's definitely no RL...

jasonwdp10

The RL is a lost cause this generation lol. Waiting for the next RL, mmc TL already.

Also if u look YTD, the RL and the TL are the only ones selling less than before. Doesn't look good for either model imo

NoVA_Acura

I did MY part to help out! Mine is about 8 days old...!

NwTSXmt

why is it sad?...I like not passing the same vehicle on the road

coffeefingers

Interesting that the Acura division did better % wise than the parent company (Honda) did.

Also interesting that the trucks and SUVs of both Acura and Honda did better than the sedans % wise!

So much for being green.

jasonwdp10

Should have bought a RL

CraigMacDTA

I don't think I've sold a TL in 2 months!

DrewSRX

July 2010 - Entry Level Luxury
1. 3 - 8,897
2. G - 5,721
3. CTS - 5,516
4. C - 5,309
5. ES - 4,093
6. A4/5 - 3,903
7. TL - 3,123
8. IS - 3,100
9. MKZ - 1,590
10. S60 - 0
11. 9-3 - N/A

July 2010 - Mid Level Luxury
1. E - 5,426
2. 5 - 2,724
3. M - 1,277
4. MKS - 969
5. S80 - 668
6. XF - 627
7. A6/S6 - 620
8. GS - 592
9. STS - 259
10. RL - 172
11. 9-5 - N/A

VTEC Racer

Makes sense since total Acura sales in Canada are usually about what the RDX alone sells in the U.S.

RSLTSX09XMNAVWX

My wife will be glad to see her 2009 TSX is still popular. But I am with you as the TL numbers are still strong but level year over year. SUV have always been more popular than a Sedan. I see 10 TSX on the road for every TL, not to mention the TSX is a value and $10K less then a TL. I drive the wife’s TSX about once every 2 weeks. Where the TL has very intuitive functionality, the TSX is difficult to get use to, like where is the Audio Button in the TSX I always say to myself, and I drove this car a lot for 11 months before I gave up on the Honda Pilot and got the TL!

ostrich

If my memory is not failing me (and these days it often does LOL) then the July sales number for the TL is still better than the June number, right? Or am I just getting it all confused?

Also, isn't this the first time that the TSX is outselling the TL?

RSLTSX09XMNAVWX

Acura has a lot of advertising on TV these days about the TSX and its high tech capabilities, but we know that a lot of this if not more is in the TL. Also the TSX is 100% made in Japan. The TL is built in the USA, Ohio, with 15% coming from Japan, that being the 4X4 AWD platform and tranny!

KeithL

I'll say it again, Infiniti is on a roll, the G Sedan sold over 4100 cars in its 4th model year! I was thinking the next G might show up early in 2011, but with these sales numbers on this G they can stall the next G until January 2012. The TSX is indeed ona roll looks liek it is filling the old TL slot well. They do need a sub $30K car then push TSX up a little and push the TL into the low end of the old RL slow. So said how few RL sales it takes to show a 75% gain!!

smarty666

I agree, the G sales were impressive for last month, but I don't think Infiniti is going to roll out the next Gen 2012 that early. We maybe lucky if we see it in the summer or early fall of 2011 at the earliest.

All I have to say about Acura is, thank God they have the TSX and MDX or they'd be really up to creek.

KeithL

Agreed, I thought they would originally intorduce in in April 2011, but based on sales I suspect they will delay it until January 2012 not fall 2011, kind of liek the G37 which really did not ship until very late December 2008 and really in January 2009. I bet they milk these sales numbers, unless they fall off a cliff. Current G has been selling better now than when it came out. I do like how Infiniti makes more than one MMC basically. They added the 3.7 and 7 speed AT back in 09 then tweaked the fasicas interior trim and front fascia and wheels for for 10 and for 11 they are added a Limited Edition model (beats me what it has).

kazh

Not to defend these numbers but we need to keep in mind that the last years numbers were distorted by the cash-for-clunkers program. So the purchasing pattern is rather unusual. For comparison with June, TL sold over 400 units more.

TechnoCat

Except that BMW and Audi are way up.

Unfortunately, the same condition that got me into the TL SH-AWD 6MT - the lack of 335ix and S4 6MT (actually, S4 just seemed overpriced at the time) - is keeping me from an S4 or 335ix 6mt now; there aren't any. Very few on the western side of the U.S., and what there are, the dealers won't trade to other dealers. Orders are 90 days out. But TLs are available still.

VTEC Racer

This was a huge month for the G, no doubt. But you also have to consider the $319/month lease deal Infiniti has been pushing for the past three months. $319 a month for a G37 with Journey and Premium package is an unbeatable deal IMO. In the end, quantity sold isn't going to do much for you when you're barely making any profit.

VTEC Racer

Looks like BMW and Audi are suffering from that inventory bug!

winstrolvtec

Hate to be so contradicting all the time but it's not only BMW and Audi who are up. Audi is up 27% YTD, BMW only 9% and Acura is up 24%.

vinnier6

iTrader: (1)

same here, bought mine 7/31...tl sh-awd tech/at

LessisBestmakingendsmeet

Acura has $0 down payment, $0 security deposit, $0 first month's payment, $0 due at lease signing since the spring. Surely that helped. I LITERALLY just saw an ad on the T.V for the TL for it.

Its almost impossible to configure an Audi A4/A5/S4 the way you want. I checked out a S4 and it is just fantastic.

Everyone is offering incentives, some more than others. Audi has a hard time with inventory.

MurkyRiversTL

Another thread about this. Always brings the same discussions, same views from the same people. I guess we must be bored.

BLACKURA_NY

iTrader: (6)

1000% with you. my car might not be worth $100k... but at least there isnt 4 of them at any given red light.

Pete2010

^^ I still wonder why we give a shit how many Acuras were sold vs BWM and Audi. It's interesting to look at but who cares? If I wanted to drive the same car as everyone else in my neighborhood I would have went and bought a 335 or A4...Hell I would have kept my 3G if I wanted to drive the same thing as everyone else... No shortage of Bimmers or Audis out here, the dealers are all packed full of them.

mdx_tl

You are right. I live in a very small town (about 25K people). I am the only one who owns the 4G TL. That's why my money is worth 100 times what I paid for.

Acura for life.

KeithL

I tend to agree, but as the G is their bread and butter and in year 4 my guess is they are still making a profit on every car, just not as much. Infiniti also gets you on their leases, they have an aquistion and disposition fee and now are up to $.25 for miles over the lease. They are also not as forgicing for damage, Acura has a $1500 excessive use waiver where Infiniti is either $500 or nothing! Don't get me wrong, I love my M37S, but I think Honda builds a better car and has better leases, just not as incentivized as Infiniti.

KeithL

One thing I noticed a while back is if you look at the make up of sales it is telling. Sure they don't publish these numbers, but looking at a dealer lot and shopping shows alot. What I found was that especially for BMW 3 most of the cars are leased and most are far from well equipped. This was the biggest reason I passed over BMW quickly when I got my 09 AWD, they coudl not even locate a car with near the options I wanted, sure they were all offered options, but none to be found. To me that buyer is looking for a name plate only. Even Infiniti sells less fully equipped cars than loaded cars, probably why the lease deal is on the Journey Premium (no nav), probably their biggest selling configuration. The Infinit dealer told me only about 30%-40% of their sales are NAV cars Almost every Acura dealer I go to has far more Tech cars than non-Tech. That tells me the Acura buyer is more interetsed in the entire "package", car, options, etc. I would also venture to guess that a loaded car is more profitable than a less equipped car, does it really cost Acura over $3K to add Nav, backup camera, ELS, etc? If I recall Acura exepcts about 70% of their cars to be the Tech model.

PsychDoc

IIRC this is the first time in a long while that the TL has topped 3000 units in a month. If they can keep that up that puts them on track to about 40k units annually.

MyT6MT

MurkyRiversTL

^lol

smarty666

Just keep in mind, and I'm not saying your entirely wrong, but that $319 lease deal is an advertisement to get suckers to come into the stealership for more money. That doesn't include, taxes, title, registration, etc etc so by the time your done, and with the stealership looking to make some profit on the car, your looking maybe if your lucky at around $390-400 a month for that lease and that depends on what you put down. Sometimes, what the salesman pull is that, "oh, for that monthly payment you have to put more down"

got to love all the sales tactics!

TSX69

Let me preface this by saying that I have never leased a vehicle so I am not 100% sure on how it goes but the Acura lease special of $0 down, $0 deposit & $0 1st month's payment (which according to Acura's Site does not currently include the TL) does not really seem like a good deal except for those who have no $ up front.

The $0 special has a higher monthly payment than the other lease special w/ a down payment, so it looks to me like they give you a break to start with but over the months you pay that money back thru higher payments & in the end, the cost is about the same.

In short, if the total amount you pay @ the end of the lease is roughly the same, then is the $0 up-front deal really that great? People act like Acura is just giving them away but I fail to see what is so alluring ... I would be more focused on the exact amount that comes out of my pocket by the time the lease is over rather than what is needed @ the very beginning.

CraigMacDTA

This doesn't break down models sold, but from a manufacturer's point of view in Canada - http://www.desrosiers.ca/Monthly%20Updates/sales.pdf

We're hurtin up here in the north!

winstrolvtec

I never realized just how poor the entire luxury market is in Canada right now. I knew Acura was slow up North from this site and various members who live there but so is just about every other luxury brand. No one ever mentioned that before and I think I know why. Despite how ridiculously slow they may be, through July Acura is the third best selling luxury brand in Canada behind MB and BMW.

GM,Ford, and Chrysler pretty much have Canada's entire auto industry on lock right now making up almost half of the entire sales market including both luxury an mainstream brand sales.

Thanks for the link, very interesting.

PsychDoc

When I was in Montreal I was struck by how many Mazdas I was seeing. It was as if every third car was a Mazda.

smarty666

Excellent point, it works out typically to be the same but to the avg Joe who knows nothing about leasing it sounds like a better deal when in actuality it works out to being the same.

More down, less per month = 0 down, more per month

What the salesman like to do is, if you tell them you don't want to put anything down or very little down, they'll come back and say, "oh well your monthly payments will be higher", of course, b/c your not giving me any deal b/c you just finagled the numbers by increasing my monthly payment to adjust for no money down.

To use your Acura lease example, that base TSX lease they are advertising for 0 down, 0 due at signing, etc for $289 a month, that most likely be around $350-$370 per month when all is said and done. It sounds great on the television, until you walk into the stealership and sit down with the salesman who starts telling you all the REAL numbers for the lease deal.

KeithL

Need to relaize Canada has a total poulation of maybe 30-40 million people a little over 10% of US population so their numbers would be lower. And car prices are higher in Canada making the luxury name plates more expensive in general.