types1fan

I know im going to get flamed for this but what the heck, I want the Vossen CV3 on a Staggered sutup. I want 10.5 in rear and 9.0 in the front, What tire size would i need for it to look sinister. I also intend lower the ride as low as i can, I know im going to hear it that i might mess up my trany. Please any imput would be helpful.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

it wont mess up your tranny

Nexson

put some cv2 on that bro!

that wheel setup is nice, what offset?

you can put a 275 series on the back, will give you more poke

types1fan

I have heard that you need the tires width and height to match as close as you can.

Nexson

oh, you have AWD, hm, that is a different ball game.

types1fan

Yup AWD, I have to get this right. For those members here In acurazine please chime in and give me your tire info.

ucf_bronco

iTrader: (1)

This probably isn't going to help you at all since I'm running a non-staggered setup and I'm not lowered, but I have 255/35/20's and my wheel offset is +35. It's about as flush with the fenders as you can get.

Good luck!

Nexson

I dont know a whole lot about wheels, but it seems to be, the only way you are going to get it right, is if all the wheels are exactly the same.

I could be wrong though.

Zelaya

iTrader: (1)

I know you want staggered setup but I just got a square setup for the summer and my tires are 275/35/19 and love the ride handling.

Jimmmer

My guess would be as long as you maintain the same rolling diameter of your tires from front to back, you should be alright. The question is, how do you maintain that keeping the same series tires with the different widths? There might be a combination that works, I dunno! Anyways, that's why I'm here to learn! Great question, BTW! Back to lurking...

gibbyisgibby

A good way to do it is how andy did it with his cv3 setup.

Just run the same width tire all the way around.

Get tires that will be slightly small for the 10.5 width and good for the 9 width.

I think hes running 245s, if you look at the picture the rims overhang, so you probably want to run something like a 265.

types1fan

I sent Fyah TL a message and he told me to use 245 35 in the front and 275 30 in the rear. If I'm not mistaken that's a huge tire in the back, I'm here in acurazine to get my brothers to help me out.

FYAH TL

You can run staggered and the car will be fine. Just don't go crazy with it and try to keep the tires rolling diameter as close as possible. Talking from experience i've run various staggered setup on the 4G for 2 years now with not one issue. The AWD system on the 4G allows for tolerance hence why you can run staggered. There is some drawback to running staggered for example when it comes time to rotate your tires you can take the tires off the rim and put the part of the tire that was inside now put it on the outside......They are people that never tried staggered on a SH-AWD TL but come on the zine and talk about it will mess up this and that. i have yet to heard someone actually running staggered on the 4G and it messed up their car.

on the vossen wheels that 9" rim in the front run a 245 35 20 tire and in the rear with that 10.5 rim run a 275 30 20 tire. That setup will allow for the nice drop you desire. 275 30 is wide but there's lots of room under the quarter panel to clear that size and allow for a low drop.

Post up some pics after you do it. Should look sweet!!!!!

types1fan

^^^Will do man, it's just going to take a few weeks cause I'm planning a few mods and I'll be sending you messages with some other questions.

Zelaya

iTrader: (1)

Cass is the man when it comes to high performance for the 4th gen TL.

FYAH TL

^ LOL. They all know me by Fyah.

Zelaya

iTrader: (1)

^^^^ Oops my bad.

ATL126AM

check out my setup. it is also on Vossen's website if you want to make a look.

http://www.vossenwheels.com/CarGalle...VSCV3-759.aspx

FYAH TL

^ izabar is your car FWD or AWD? Plus what size tires are you running in the front and rear?

eazy

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I'm gonna guess FWD since it don't look like he de-badged.

Unless he de-badged the SH-AWD part which I would question why since thats the only thing to differentiate between a AWD and FWD now

types1fan

Nice,very nice. Are u AWD or FWD.

types1fan

I was just bout to say who is that?

potmilkz

as long as your rolling diameter is the same your fine with whatever set up.

ANDYCHULOSKI09

just do 10.5 all around and take my cv3

types1fan

Sounds tempting but I want to have staggered look.

MEM3

iTrader: (1)

your going to want

235/40/20 front and 265/35/20 rear

types1fan

Funny thing is that I have 20 inch rims that I had on my 09 Tl that it might put just for a few until I make up my mind.

FYAH TL

Those tire sizes you are recommending is too tall and way off for a 20x9 front and 20x10.5 rear the OP is looking into running on his sh-awd 4G.
Plus you'll have a hard time finding tire size 235 40 20 as most tire companies don't carry that size.

Blueberryyumyum

I have this exact set up.. Will post up pics once everything arrives. 245/35/20 for the front and 275/20/20 rear..

FYAH TL

^ You meant 275 30 20 rear.

draph

Would be curious to hear how the staggered set-up affects handling dynamics of SHAWD. With same contact patches front and rear, with 6MT at least you can power oversteer with the all-seasons. With wider in the back, and presumed summer compound to boot, I suspect the car will be harder to put the back-end out under power.

With my prior BMW 335 with sport package (255 in back, 225 in front), it was pretty neutral feeling with my summers. My winter set up was 225 all the way around and could oversteer, even with the open-diff in back.

FYAH TL

^ With wider tire in the rear driving straight feel normal but when accelerating around corners the car felt alot more planted/stationary. Also am lowered on Tein SS and have the EDFC to make dampening adjustments.

Blueberryyumyum

vivmike

I got 8.5 fr and 10 rear. 245/30/20 & 275/30/20 had to roll the rear fenders. After I put the Tein coilovers.

types1fan

^^ I am planning on Rolling the fenders also because with these wide ass rims that we are putting they would rub, I'm seeing that mostly everyone is using the 275/30/20'in the rear why not something smaller. One other question is what offstet should I be looking at?

MEM3

iTrader: (1)

Yup for some reason I was thinking 19's when i calculated the tire height- take off 5 front and rear and you will be good

235/35/20 and 265/30/20

Mr Marco

Why bother, this is a FWD platform car with 215hp to the wheels.

Looks cool as f^(# with a staggered set-up.
But it's a total waste of money IMHO.

If you want a big wheels in the rear, get rid of the TL and buy a Vette.

types1fan

Actually its a AWD

Mr Marco

Nope, I got that. this is a FWD platform vehicle, not a RWD. A high hp RWD vehicle typically uses a staggered set-up to plant that hp to the ground. A staggered set-up is only for looks on the TL. Drive line loss puts the total hp on the TL some where between 215-255hp to the ground.

Even on a good day, under extreme hard acceleration, this car will only put down <178hp to the rear wheels.

Ergo, big rear tires are a waste of your hard earned money.

EDiT: Nothing personal. I think some of the best looking 4G TL's in this forum are running on staggered 20's. I'm more about speed and agility.

Edward'TLS

The 4G TL is a front heavy, FWD-chassis, FWD-based-AWD sedan.