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Old 02-24-2012, 11:27 AM
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So my '09 TL w/Tech is in the shop and...

they put me in a '12 TL w/tech package and they're almost identical. There's 3500 miles on it, mine has almost 40K and I almost prefer to drive mine more.

Partially because I have the SRI which gives it an edge performance wise and sound, but I seriously thought I would be blown away with some new features but they're almost exactly the same!

Of course the '12 has the new car smell but I must say that mine with 40K is just as good, if not better (as mentioned above).

Just thought I'd share. I'd be willing to buy another TL but I'll probably wait until the 5th generation comes out.

Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by EazyRider562
they put me in a '12 TL w/tech package and they're almost identical. There's 3500 miles on it, mine has almost 40K and I almost prefer to drive mine more.

Partially because I have the SRI which gives it an edge performance wise and sound, but I seriously thought I would be blown away with some new features but they're almost exactly the same!

Of course the '12 has the new car smell but I must say that mine with 40K is just as good, if not better (as mentioned above).

Just thought I'd share. I'd be willing to buy another TL but I'll probably wait until the 5th generation comes out.

Thoughts?

I too have an '09 and had an '11 as a loaner for 2 days - same exact car as mine (feature wise), just "new." I came away w/ the same conclusion - great car, but I'm going to wait until a 5g comes out before I get rid of my '09.

I did like how the moon roof buttons were seperate though - instead of just being one button that slides back and forth or gets pressed in, it was 3 seperate buttons.
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Do some freeway cruising, you'll notice a difference. I also found the '12 to be a bit quieter and has better steering feel.
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12's are quieter and more fuel efficient.

but as far as performance edge.. and i hate to beat it with a stick.. your intake that you put on gives it no more of a performance edge than a 12' model.. if anything it robs some performance out of it..
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Dropped my car at the dealer on Monday and they gave me a 2012 TL w/ Tech package loaner that had 1400 miles on it. Since I have the AWD I couldn't do a direct comparison. I liked the 6-speed auto and the headlights, other than that there was no major difference for me. I took it out on the Beltway to get home and later to go back to the dealer. Honestly I didn't notice much difference in the ride quality or noise. Sure it was a little better with bumps. Definitely nothing that made me want to get rid of mine. And whether I am in the minority or not, I still prefer the grill/beak on mine to the muted down 2012 version. Hopefully the 5G will have something that makes me want to get one. Only have 13k miles on mine after 20 months, the benefits of working from home.
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And you wanted to purchase a '12.
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Originally Posted by potmilkz
12's are quieter and more fuel efficient.

but as far as performance edge.. and i hate to beat it with a stick.. your intake that you put on gives it no more of a performance edge than a 12' model.. if anything it robs some performance out of it..
+1 Just makes noise.
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Yeah my '09 is quicker than this TL, I showed to a few friends earlier and they all agreed with my opinion.
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^why do you phrase your sentences like that?
and I'm willing to bet that its the same performance wise.
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So you're agreeding that my SRI does give it a little plus on the performance side?
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Old 02-24-2012, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^why do you phrase your sentences like that?
and I'm willing to bet that its the same performance wise.

how did you get from "same performance" to

Originally Posted by EazyRider562
So you're agreeding that my SRI does give it a little plus on the performance side?
it just doesnt add up lol...

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Just agree potsmilk, u know u wanna?!?!
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Doesn't the 2012 have cooled seats? ??
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I think the advance does yes... That's basically tech package plus in lamens terms!
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Why does it matter what we think? As long as all your friends agree with you that's all that matters.
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Why does it matter what we think? As long as all your friends agree with you that's all that matters.
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this thread is full of fail.... as usual

its the same DAMN car.....IN FACT the 12 is a little quicker off the line, because of the 6spd transmission and different gear ratios

The Takeda SRI doesn't give power... it takes it away.... it might put up better numbers on a dyno, but it holds the gears longer, which actually makes the car slower.
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Originally Posted by EazyRider562
Yeah my '09 is quicker than this TL, I showed to a few friends earlier and they all agreed with my opinion.
Whatever makes you happy 'bro'
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Shellyduchsk8s
I too have an '09 and had an '11 as a loaner for 2 days - same exact car as mine (feature wise), just "new." I came away w/ the same conclusion - great car, but I'm going to wait until a 5g comes out before I get rid of my '09.

I did like how the moon roof buttons were seperate though - instead of just being one button that slides back and forth or gets pressed in, it was 3 seperate buttons.
Just FYI, 2009-2011 years are identical (unless I'm mistaken) and are all pre 2012 MMC. I'm not sure how the moon roof buttons on the 2011 loaner you had were different that that of your 2009?
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Eazy, everytime I read your posts I think of...I'm Ron Burgundy??

I've noticed a few small differences between the '12 and '10 when I have the loaner. One of which is the texture of the material inside. In my '10 the part that wraps around the dash, onto the doors and down to the gear shifter is textured...it's smooth on the '12. I prefer the former as small of a change as it is.
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Originally Posted by ucf_bronco
Eazy, everytime I read your posts I think of...I'm Ron Burgundy??

I've noticed a few small differences between the '12 and '10 when I have the loaner. One of which is the texture of the material inside. In my '10 the part that wraps around the dash, onto the doors and down to the gear shifter is textured...it's smooth on the '12. I prefer the former as small of a change as it is.
I noticed that too. All I'm saying is there isnt much of a difference from '09 and '12. I actually wanted to get my car back asap.

And kinda another note, I actually wanted to get my '09 back compared to the ZDX I had the previous time at the dealership.

The TSX, same thing. Just sayin'....
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Originally Posted by EazyRider562
I noticed that too. All I'm saying is there isnt much of a difference from '09 and '12. I actually wanted to get my car back asap.

And kinda another note, I actually wanted to get my '09 back compared to the ZDX I had the previous time at the dealership.

The TSX, same thing. Just sayin'....
Unless you got exhaust mods to go with your SRI your gains are non-existent. But if your butt dyno says so who can argue with ya?
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How much for a new exhaust roughly? 3K?
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Originally Posted by EazyRider562
I noticed that too. All I'm saying is there isnt much of a difference from '09 and '12. I actually wanted to get my car back asap.
lol but i see you clearly stated

Originally Posted by EazyRider562
Yeah my '09 is quicker than this TL, I showed to a few friends earlier and they all agreed with my opinion.
so you stated "All your saying that there isnt much of a difference"

but yet again you claim that your 09 is quicker than the 12'?

nice trolling.
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How much for a new exhaust roughly? 3K?
If you get full j-pipe, High flow cat and catback exhaust - you're probably closer to 2k - maybe a little higher (plus a few hundred for install).
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If you get full j-pipe, High flow cat and catback exhaust - you're probably closer to 2k - maybe a little higher (plus a few hundred for install).
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So EasyRider, where are you going with this? Just random thought about the loaner vs. your 4G?

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your '09 is faster than the '12 because you WANT it to be faster. It's the same car.

Might as well say a car is faster because you added a sticker. SRI's are worthless performance "upgrades". Sound is the only thing it adds..
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Yes, my thoughts were just random. I was just giving my POV. And I'm saying that "I" feel my '09 w/SRI is a better performance wise than the '12 I just had for 24 hours.

I just was looking for some thoughts and comments, thats all. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I try to stay away from anything easyrider post or says, because at the end he is just confused.
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Originally Posted by EazyRider562
Yes, my thoughts were just random. I was just giving my POV. And I'm saying that "I" feel my '09 w/SRI is a better performance wise than the '12 I just had for 24 hours.

I just was looking for some thoughts and comments, thats all. Nothing more, nothing less.
Do you agree that if Lil Jon were driving the '12, it would be faster?
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Easy, go get your exhaust and everything else and then come back and let us know your opinion.
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just some random thoughts yes and I wanted to see what others thought about them.

see if I have anyone who agreed with me, thats all.
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^in your limited research, what did you conclude?
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Not much, I just got shot down....
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Do you agree that not a lot of people agreed with you?
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Yes some did, some didn't. Why are you trying to get me riled up justnspace?
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