HID Fog question
07-13-2014, 08:14 PM
#1
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HID Fog question
So I was planning on doing the HID fog set up and was looking at the DIY guide. I just wanted to make sure I had the set up right however.
I have a H11 MORIMOTO Kit with a HD relay. The below pictures are how I think it's supposed to be set up. The one question I have is of the red and black wire that is shown in the 3rd picture. I think that it goes into the relay which then goes into the factory harness, however shouldn't there be a connector and not a single wire for red and black? It seems that they go in the female connector on the harness but theyre not that secure..
Any help please
This is where I'm confused. If you look where I wrote "this seems loose" you can see where I put the black wire in the female end of the harness and the red wire is sitting to the side
I have a H11 MORIMOTO Kit with a HD relay. The below pictures are how I think it's supposed to be set up. The one question I have is of the red and black wire that is shown in the 3rd picture. I think that it goes into the relay which then goes into the factory harness, however shouldn't there be a connector and not a single wire for red and black? It seems that they go in the female connector on the harness but theyre not that secure..
Any help please
This is where I'm confused. If you look where I wrote "this seems loose" you can see where I put the black wire in the female end of the harness and the red wire is sitting to the side
07-14-2014, 10:47 AM
#3
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that should be correct.. but i am stumped on why you need a decoder/resistor just to connect to harness... can you tell me what that cylinder thing is?
07-14-2014, 03:48 PM
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http://www.theretrofitsource.com/hid...l#.U8RBUo1dWb8
Do I not even need it?
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07-14-2014, 08:18 PM
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Thanks man.
As far as each red and black wire is concerned, should I try and take the connector off that harness and put each wire in that so it can connect easily into the factory harness?
Or was I just being a ***** and not pushing each wire into the female factory harness connection hard enough, just seems like its not secure
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07-15-2014, 01:53 PM
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it will work both ways.. it works much better with a relay.
ddm is a hit or miss.. check out their facebook page, many people have bought from them and failed, tried to get a replacement but never did.. id spend more money on 3five kit instead.
ddm is a hit or miss.. check out their facebook page, many people have bought from them and failed, tried to get a replacement but never did.. id spend more money on 3five kit instead.
07-15-2014, 02:05 PM
#10
What amperage is the fuse rated for your light circuit? 10 Amp? 15 Amp? 20 Amp? Every vehicle manufacturer designs the light circuit around a specified wattage of the bulb being powered. If the HIDs draw more power than that bulb you will most likely blow the fuse that is protecting the circuit. Some guys just throw the next size bigger fuse in and it works, is that safe? NO, not really. Consider that the gauge of the wiring used is calculated for the draw of the Halogen bulb you just replaced and for the original size fuse that kept blowing. IF you choose to just up the size of the fuse you may end up with a melted wiring harness! Or worse yet, an electrical FIRE! Instead you should install an HID Relay Harness. It uses the cars light socket to click over a relay and this allows power to be pulled directly from the battery via sufficient gauge wire and a proper size fuse for HID Ballasts to operate. Does your car or truck have automatic lights? Does your car use this circuit as a low voltage DRL? If you answered YES to either of these questions I would recommend using an HID Relay Harness.
The “Auto Lights” feature on cars will turn your lights on as soon as you turn the key to the Ignition Position. When you crank the engine over all accessories including your lights will turn off. After the engine starts and you let the key go back to the Ignition position the lights will come back on. This will cause misfires from the voltage dipping when it cuts out. In most cases the Relay Harness will correct this problem.
The “DRL” poses more than one problem. Depending on the operating voltage of the DRL will depict if you need more than just an HID Relay Harness. If you can test the voltage with a test meter and it shows a voltage of 6.5 Volts or greater you can use just the HID Relay Harness. If the voltage is less than 6.5 Volts you can use one of our DRL_MODULES. The DRL_ MODULE is my best friend when it comes to finding a solution for low voltage issues. It is essentially a power booster. It will take as little as 3 Volts and bump it all the way up to 14 Volts! You can install this between the light socket and the input of the Relay Harness and voilà! Now you have enough voltage to click over your HID Relay Harness. A properly installed HID Relay Harness will fix most problems before you ever experience them. It’s a small price and adds a little extra install time, but I like a little peace of mind.
The “Auto Lights” feature on cars will turn your lights on as soon as you turn the key to the Ignition Position. When you crank the engine over all accessories including your lights will turn off. After the engine starts and you let the key go back to the Ignition position the lights will come back on. This will cause misfires from the voltage dipping when it cuts out. In most cases the Relay Harness will correct this problem.
The “DRL” poses more than one problem. Depending on the operating voltage of the DRL will depict if you need more than just an HID Relay Harness. If you can test the voltage with a test meter and it shows a voltage of 6.5 Volts or greater you can use just the HID Relay Harness. If the voltage is less than 6.5 Volts you can use one of our DRL_MODULES. The DRL_ MODULE is my best friend when it comes to finding a solution for low voltage issues. It is essentially a power booster. It will take as little as 3 Volts and bump it all the way up to 14 Volts! You can install this between the light socket and the input of the Relay Harness and voilà! Now you have enough voltage to click over your HID Relay Harness. A properly installed HID Relay Harness will fix most problems before you ever experience them. It’s a small price and adds a little extra install time, but I like a little peace of mind.
it's very fucking important to use a Relay.
Last edited by justnspace; 07-15-2014 at 02:14 PM.
07-15-2014, 06:11 PM
#12
Safety Car
Now, the only thing the relay will help on, is for when the lights are in auto mode, and you start the car when the lights are on. They turn off and on. The relay will usually prevent this.
But like I said, relay is not needed. Never used one on my 3rd gen or 4th gen.
07-15-2014, 06:13 PM
#14
Safety Car
You do know that an HID system uses LESS power than a standard Halogen bulb right? Uses much less than standard headlights\fogs.
http://solomonmuturi.hubpages.com/hu...car-headlights
Also with that, the stock wiring is fine.
http://solomonmuturi.hubpages.com/hu...car-headlights
Also with that, the stock wiring is fine.
07-15-2014, 07:24 PM
#16
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a relay kit is like $15 bucks... while a relay kit wont harm anything.. going without one will.. depending how many amps your ballast draws. with a relay, you eliminate that problem.
dont be that guy that comes back few months later explaining how you got some cheap kit when it was not set up properly.
the stock factory harness is not meant to stand the power draw when you start the car, even though its for a second...
and again.. its $15 bucks for a basic one.. and if you want to get all fancy. TRS has fancy ones for about $25 bucks.
dont be that guy that comes back few months later explaining how you got some cheap kit when it was not set up properly.
the stock factory harness is not meant to stand the power draw when you start the car, even though its for a second...
and again.. its $15 bucks for a basic one.. and if you want to get all fancy. TRS has fancy ones for about $25 bucks.
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07-15-2014, 10:58 PM
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a relay kit is like $15 bucks... while a relay kit wont harm anything.. going without one will.. depending how many amps your ballast draws. with a relay, you eliminate that problem.
dont be that guy that comes back few months later explaining how you got some cheap kit when it was not set up properly.
the stock factory harness is not meant to stand the power draw when you start the car, even though its for a second...
and again.. its $15 bucks for a basic one.. and if you want to get all fancy. TRS has fancy ones for about $25 bucks.
dont be that guy that comes back few months later explaining how you got some cheap kit when it was not set up properly.
the stock factory harness is not meant to stand the power draw when you start the car, even though its for a second...
and again.. its $15 bucks for a basic one.. and if you want to get all fancy. TRS has fancy ones for about $25 bucks.
07-17-2014, 05:15 PM
#19
Yes you will need a relay if you get the kit from DDM. I learned the hard way by installing without a relay which caused intermittent shutting off. Spend the extra $10 and grab the relay.
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