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Old 06-17-2010, 09:09 PM
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Congrats PetesTL! I drove the 550i at the BMW Driving Event. Didn't get a chance to drive the 535i - how is the difference between the 2 engines (night and day?)

Post some pics for us
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Congrats PetesTL! I drove the 550i at the BMW Driving Event. Didn't get a chance to drive the 535i - how is the difference between the 2 engines (night and day?)

Post some pics for us

Well the 550i has a 400hp/450 lb-ft twin turbo V8. All that torque peaks at around 1750 rpm so it's a big rush! According to BMW test numbers (which are usually conservative), 0-60 is around 4.4sec. I haven't really pushed my car because I'm still breaking it in. But this engine is a BEAST. You can Easily find yourself going into triple digits without even knowing it. And it does so very quietly and without drama....kinda like being in Lear Jet! It's easily a night-and-day difference from my TL and even the 535i. I can't even imagine what this car is capable of once the engine breaks in.

I had posted some photos earlier in the day but it got moved to Car Talk.
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Here's some Night time shots!:




--> Love those rear LED brake lights!






--> Cool illuminated door sills!




--> Love those red ambient lighting! (although some guys don't like red)






--> This car has LED's everywhere!.....even the door handles! very cool!




--> Bi-Xenon's w/daytime LED "Angel Eyes"
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are those lights just to the right of the lens? The LEDs inside are insane! Such a cool car!
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Very nice. It does have some great touches!
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Congrats Pete, very nice car. Payment is crazy, but like others before have said, if you can afford it, why not. The parking cost in Chicago puts things into perspective!
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Awesome pics! More please!
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9 bills a month and you dont own it...Your Money.. Enjoy your BMW
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The interior LEDs are sick.

How are you finding the cabin tech? (ie iDrive, iPod integration, nav system...etc)
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Originally Posted by NwTSXmt
9 bills a month and you dont own it...Your Money.. Enjoy your BMW

Most people (incl. myself) who decide to get into these pricey German luxury cars know it's far better to lease than to own. I get free scheduled maintanance for 3 years. It's also titled to my business name, so it's written off for tax purposes.
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Pete,
I'm not a big poster but I do read most of these threads. I've always enjoyed and trusted your posts. Thanks for all your insight and good luck with the BMW...it's an amazing car!
Old 06-18-2010, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Olu
The interior LEDs are sick.

How are you finding the cabin tech? (ie iDrive, iPod integration, nav system...etc)


OMG, there's so much tech in this car it's overwhelming at times. (and I thought the TL was tech crazy!) The I-Drive is vastly improved from the previous generation...more intuitive, less menu searching. The system hard drive is huge.....there's a whole owners manual in there!....with video! Not only can you store songs into the media server, but documents, photos, video, etc. (There's a USB port in the glove box for doing this). The huge 10" NAV screen is awesome.....extreme hi-res and doesn't even remotely wash out in direct sunlight. Ipod integration is awesome as well.....you can dump everything, including music videos, into the media server!! I love the HUD.....not only is your speed shown (in holographic form) in the windhsield but NAV info. as well so you don't have to take your eyes off the road,
Old 06-18-2010, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PetesTL
Most people (incl. myself) who decide to get into these pricey German luxury cars know it's far better to lease than to own. I get free scheduled maintanance for 3 years. It's also titled to my business name, so it's written off for tax purposes.
Yup, I was just going to say, if you own a business (and double if the title is under the business) it a much better idea to lease. Especially since you can rock that car for 3 years, not pay a penny in maintenance costs, then dump it at the end.

My father in law does the same thing - he leases his ls460 awd, and he even goes over on his mileage by about 20k total for 3 years. It's all one massive tax deduction for him since all he does is drive to his clients (accountant).
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Originally Posted by PetesTL
OMG, there's so much tech in this car it's overwhelming at times. (and I thought the TL was tech crazy!) The I-Drive is vastly improved from the previous generation...more intuitive, less menu searching. The system hard drive is huge.....there's a whole owners manual in there!....with video! Not only can you store songs into the media server, but documents, photos, video, etc. (There's a USB port in the glove box for doing this). The huge 10" NAV screen is awesome.....extreme hi-res and doesn't even remotely wash out in direct sunlight. Ipod integration is awesome as well.....you can dump everything, including music videos, into the media server!! I love the HUD.....not only is your speed shown (in holographic form) in the windhsield but NAV info. as well so you don't have to take your eyes off the road,
The HUD alone is making me cabin tech jealous.

Sigh....as a physician we can only deduct a small percentage of a car lease which doesn't make it worth it. Otherwise I'd be joining you in a couple of years. Did you happen to look at other competitors (E Class, Audi S6, Jaguar XF?)
Old 06-18-2010, 10:23 AM
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550i! The fastest 5-Series until the M5.

And IIRC, the E60 550i got off the line quicker than the E60 M5...but the M5 had a more powerful top end.

Great pickup! Enjoy in good health!
Old 06-18-2010, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Olu
The HUD alone is making me cabin tech jealous.

Sigh....as a physician we can only deduct a small percentage of a car lease which doesn't make it worth it. Otherwise I'd be joining you in a couple of years. Did you happen to look at other competitors (E Class, Audi S6, Jaguar XF?)
Olu, just wondering if you are an employee, or have your corporation/business identity (ie. family practice)?

Being a dentist, I plan on leasing through the business/corporation a SUV when I buy a practice in the very near future. Many of my dental friends do the same (ie. MDX, GX), and is a thorough enjoyable perk of business ownership. However, as an employee, the amount we can deduct is minimal (ie. business miles).
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Originally Posted by docboy
Olu, just wondering if you are an employee, or have your corporation/business identity (ie. family practice)?

Being a dentist, I plan on leasing through the business/corporation a SUV when I buy a practice in the very near future. Many of my dental friends do the same (ie. MDX, GX), and is a thorough enjoyable perk of business ownership. However, as an employee, the amount we can deduct is minimal (ie. business miles).
I'm a full partner in our practice (it's a LLC). I've looked into it and you are only supposed to deduct the percentage of miles you use for work. This does NOT include commuting. It would only be for the miles between offices, the hospital, or off site meetings. That being said, there are many medical practitioners that deduct their automobile leases.
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Originally Posted by PetesTL
There's a lot of "senseless" stuff you do in life. One of my best friends easily spends a grand every month on golf accessories and club fees. Life is short. Enjoy it while you're still vertical.

well said!

it makes a lot of sense if you have the money to spare...

did you get XM ? I heard it's an extra cost.

btw, very cool interior, I like it a lot.

enjoy your ride

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Originally Posted by NOX 3.2
well said!

it makes a lot of sense if you have the money to spare...

did you get XM ? I heard it's an extra cost.

btw, very cool interior, I like it a lot.

enjoy your ride

Thanks, XM is free the first year..courtesy of BMW.

(I also got free winter tire mounting and storage for the first 2 years courtesy of my local dealer )......other "goodies" I got: free BMW stainless steel license plate frames, free BMW cup, free BMW hat, and free rubber floor mats!
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Originally Posted by PetesTL
There's a lot of "senseless" stuff you do in life. One of my best friends easily spends a grand every month on golf accessories and club fees. Life is short. Enjoy it while you're still vertical.
Agreed, there always has to be a killjoy out there, to rain on your parade. Very nice pick-up. Okay I will be the killjoy, you should have purchased the M5.
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Nice choice! The new 5 is geourgous! I have a feeling Pete'll be back in a few years, maybe when Acura pulls their shit together with the new RL?
Got that right. As nice as the RL is,, the TL is almost as good and in some cases are better, (ie no AWD in RL), and the TL is significantly cheaper. Why would anyone buy the RL.
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Originally Posted by PetesTL
Well the 550i has a 400hp/450 lb-ft twin turbo V8. All that torque peaks at around 1750 rpm so it's a big rush! According to BMW test numbers (which are usually conservative), 0-60 is around 4.4sec. I haven't really pushed my car because I'm still breaking it in. But this engine is a BEAST. You can Easily find yourself going into triple digits without even knowing it. And it does so very quietly and without drama....kinda like being in Lear Jet! It's easily a night-and-day difference from my TL and even the 535i. I can't even imagine what this car is capable of once the engine breaks in.

I had posted some photos earlier in the day but it got moved to Car Talk.
I have driven my Brother-In-Laws 09 M3 and that Standard vehicle handles and goes like a dream. I think the M3 is 400 HP, but not sure if it's the same engine. That said, the 5 series is amazing.
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Originally Posted by BLEXV6
Agreed, there always has to be a killjoy out there, to rain on your parade. Very nice pick-up. Okay I will be the killjoy, you should have purchased the M5.
You know, when I was at my dealer the other day looking at the 550i, there was a '09 M5 and a 2010 M3 in the lot. Yes, the E60 M5 has a bit more power than my 550i (esp. at the top end) but my F10 550i has a ton more creature comforts and technology, far more comfortable ride quality and refinement, and I would even say better overall handling. The 2010 M3 had a sticker price almost exactly the same as my 550i. I was tempted for a moment but the M3 was just too cramped and too harsh for my needs. My 550i rides like an absolute DREAM, no matter what condition the pavement.......easily the BEST riding/handling car I have ever driven!!

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Congrats on the purchase! The interior is super cool, especially the LEDs. Please slap on some nice BBS wheels (forged) and take more pictures. Thanks
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Beautiful ride.
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Very nice car. Styling seems much improved over last year's. Enjoy your new vehicle.
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Originally Posted by JM2010 SH-AWD
Very nice car. Styling seems much improved over last year's. Enjoy your new vehicle.
I like the exterior styling of the new BMW's a lot but I can never get used to the interiors. I liked the previous generation dash better than the new 5-series.

Pete, enjoy your new BMW. I have test driven one recently and there is no comparison in driving dynamics. Once a person drives the new 550i's, its like being addicted to drugs. You get hooked.
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What kind of deal did you get on your TL trade in? How many miles did it have on it when you traded it in?
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Originally Posted by petec2010
What kind of deal did you get on your TL trade in? How many miles did it have on it when you traded it in?
The current market value on the '09 TL SH-AWD is around $29K-30K. It doesn't help that there's a huge rebate on new TL's right now which hurts its resale value somewhat. Being that I am a long-time customer, my dealer added another $3K to the TL (in addition to another $2K off the 550i), so my TL's trade-in value was $33,200.

My TL had around 17K miles on it when it was traded-in.
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Originally Posted by PetesTL
The current market value on the '09 TL SH-AWD is around $29K-30K. It doesn't help that there's a huge rebate on new TL's right now which hurts its resale value somewhat. Being that I am a long-time customer, my dealer added another $3K to the TL (in addition to another $2K off the 550i), so my TL's trade-in value was $33,200.

My TL had around 17K miles on it when it was traded-in.
Excellent info! I was going to PM you about the trade...I'm relocating sooner than expected and need to get rid of my 4G quick.
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Makes me start to think about throwing the money back in the bank?
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Funny I am negotiating a 2011 M37 and I can confirm what Pete is saying. I was offered $28,500 for my TL SH-AWD with 19K miles on it, but got them up to 30,500 so far. I did check out the BMW 550i that Pete got, beutiful car, way out of my league, did drive a lowly 328i, got to love the BMW ride!
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that car is sick maybe 1 day i can afford that payment....
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thats a sick car. Great choice, fantastic options chosen!
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Absolutely beautiful car...enjoy the ride for the next couple of years. Great choice!
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Beautiful ride Pete...love the F10's. Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
Borrowing a bmw for almost a grand a month seems a little sensless. But if that's what you wanted.....sweet.
jealous much? haha

congrats man have fun with that car
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Originally Posted by BLEXV6
Got that right. As nice as the RL is,, the TL is almost as good and in some cases are better, (ie no AWD in RL), and the TL is significantly cheaper. Why would anyone buy the RL.
not to even sound bias. But I test drove the new TL and worked for Acura. The quality in the RL is far more superior than the TL. Even comparing my 2005 RL to a 2009 TL.
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not to even sound bias. But I test drove the new TL and worked for Acura. The quality in the RL is far more superior than the TL. Even comparing my 2005 RL to a 2009 TL.
WOW, I'm not doubting you, byt my 09 AWD with 19K miles is rock solid, tight car, built like a tank, not a squeak or rattle and the laether looks almost new. If the RL is better than that then Acura surely has sadly missed great opportunities with that car.


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