4G TL Tech - Remote start - some answers
08-20-2010, 06:43 PM
#1
4G TL Tech - Remote start - some answers
Does anyone have a solution in their TL that will let you remote start it and then use the hand sensor handles to get in without turning the car off first?
08-21-2010, 10:16 AM
#3
If GM can make their remote starts work without having to kill the engine im sure someone can make an acura do it...
08-23-2010, 08:37 AM
#4
Looks like i found out some details...
using the flashlogic module you can indeed have the car running and unlock the doors. it will however unlock all of the doors. This is RE a honda accord so i hope its similar.
http://www.12voltdata.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1402
using the flashlogic module you can indeed have the car running and unlock the doors. it will however unlock all of the doors. This is RE a honda accord so i hope its similar.
Explaining you the way the ADS-DLSL HA works with the doorlocks will certainly help to demistify what's going on.
When the vehicle Ignition is turned OFF; the ADS module will send the doorlocks codes through Data (using doorlock Data) at this point, we are emulating the OEM remotes. Using this method with Ignition OFF gives you the ability to control the driver priority unlock, lock, trunk and OEM alarm.
When the Ignition is ON; the vehicle doesn't accept the remote Data anymore (it's the way the vehicle is built) at that point (when we receive ignition on the Pink wire) we change our doorlocks control to hardwire mode (this is when we start sending (-) pulses on the Grey & Blue wires behind the fuse box). This way you still control the doorlocks (no driver priority Unlock with ignition on). The way the plug is shown on the schematic is Pin sides when the plug is disconnected from the fuse box (this is confusing and we will change it to wire side). The Grey and Blue wires are the same going in the driver door in a Grey enveloppe.
When you remote start, there's another factor which is important;
As soon the ADS module will receive GWR, it will stop all doorlock activities and go in what we call a Immobilizer Ready mode (the module waits for the Immobilizer code). When the engine is started (we received (+) start signal on the Black/White wire) we return to doorlocks operations.
Wish it will help you to debug the problem you have!
When the vehicle Ignition is turned OFF; the ADS module will send the doorlocks codes through Data (using doorlock Data) at this point, we are emulating the OEM remotes. Using this method with Ignition OFF gives you the ability to control the driver priority unlock, lock, trunk and OEM alarm.
When the Ignition is ON; the vehicle doesn't accept the remote Data anymore (it's the way the vehicle is built) at that point (when we receive ignition on the Pink wire) we change our doorlocks control to hardwire mode (this is when we start sending (-) pulses on the Grey & Blue wires behind the fuse box). This way you still control the doorlocks (no driver priority Unlock with ignition on). The way the plug is shown on the schematic is Pin sides when the plug is disconnected from the fuse box (this is confusing and we will change it to wire side). The Grey and Blue wires are the same going in the driver door in a Grey enveloppe.
When you remote start, there's another factor which is important;
As soon the ADS module will receive GWR, it will stop all doorlock activities and go in what we call a Immobilizer Ready mode (the module waits for the Immobilizer code). When the engine is started (we received (+) start signal on the Black/White wire) we return to doorlocks operations.
Wish it will help you to debug the problem you have!
12-10-2010, 10:31 AM
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Burning Brakes
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05-03-2011, 01:46 PM
#11
Suzuka Master
Why would you want to bypass that security feature? It isn't that hard to restart the engine. It's a bit of a hassle but still better than not having the remote start, IMO.
Someone could break the window and drive off with your car.... which is why the open door-kill engine feature exists.
Someone could break the window and drive off with your car.... which is why the open door-kill engine feature exists.
05-03-2011, 02:51 PM
#12
Burning Brakes
05-03-2011, 03:33 PM
#13
That works for cars that use a key in the ignition. With push button start, the remote start bypass overrides the need for the keyfob to be nearby to start the car and then kills it when the door is opened. If not anyone could drive off with the car. I had this same conversation with several local installers when I was pricing alarm/remote start for my car.
05-03-2011, 05:07 PM
#14
Burning Brakes
That works for cars that use a key in the ignition. With push button start, the remote start bypass overrides the need for the keyfob to be nearby to start the car and then kills it when the door is opened. If not anyone could drive off with the car. I had this same conversation with several local installers when I was pricing alarm/remote start for my car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTF3g3t8VpA
06-28-2013, 12:52 AM
#15
Why would you want to bypass that security feature? It isn't that hard to restart the engine. It's a bit of a hassle but still better than not having the remote start, IMO.
Someone could break the window and drive off with your car.... which is why the open door-kill engine feature exists.
Someone could break the window and drive off with your car.... which is why the open door-kill engine feature exists.
06-29-2013, 06:09 PM
#17
you can ABSOLUTELY do it and quite easily, however not via the door handle/sense unlock. . . you can have it running with remote start and unlock it via your viper/dei remote (any installer who tells you otherwise is probably not MECP certified) . . . As far as running with remote start and unlocking via the door handle/sense I or anyone else would need a diagram and I am SURE it can be done but will be EXTREMELY DIFFICULT and cost $$$$
06-29-2013, 06:55 PM
#18
Pro
you can ABSOLUTELY do it and quite easily, however not via the door handle/sense unlock. . . you can have it running with remote start and unlock it via your viper/dei remote (any installer who tells you otherwise is probably not MECP certified) . . . As far as running with remote start and unlocking via the door handle/sense I or anyone else would need a diagram and I am SURE it can be done but will be EXTREMELY DIFFICULT and cost $$$$
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