KeithL

The current ELS in the 3G does DTS if I recall.

KeithL

The 07/08 MPG is not real time, it is cumulative. The Accord navi has a trip computer function too, that the TL does not. Seems the TL should have EVERYTHING the Accord has and then some, not less.

OUTATIME

I noticed it too - it looks like the one from leftlanenews doesn't have an ELS logo which probably means it doesn't have the tech package. That's a little disturbing because the ELS system was standard on the 3G. Kinda a step backwards?

Rocketsfan

DVD Audio more than likely.

csmeance

its probably going to be stepped models like the rdx, mdx and tsx, a base with the regular audio system and a loss of a lot of features (basically non-navi), then there is the tech package with the ELS and navi.

Colin

This information is already confirmed by Acura. From the IN posted on my site back on July 16th:

DMZ

Have youuuu been in a 2004/5/6/7/8 TL? That MPG indicator is ONLY average for the tank since last fill up (providing of course that you manually reset it as you pulled out of the gas station), NOT instantaneous as you drive, which is what the Accord trip computer has had since 2003. Every BMW has had this for at least a decade now.

The Accord trip computer also provides much more detailed information as well. We TL buyers pay $$$$ more and every right to expect at least the same or better functionality, NOT LESS! In today's world of gas pricing, how can they have left this feature out?

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Acura

EL19

iTrader: (4)

ive had an 08 TL/08MDX/08RDX/08TSX all as loaners and they ALL have instantaneous MPG indicators the same place the tire pressure indicator or mileage indicator is

FRST4DR

They must have changed that then on the 08 cause my 07 S dosent. Just an average and miles till empty.

sol_da_man

i like!

dmcfan

THANK YOU. So I guess I am not crazy afterall DMZ. I had an 08 loaner and it had it so naturally I thought the 07's had them too. I should have used more BOLD to prove my point.

blakura

My '08 TLS sure doesn't have it...if i'm wrong, please provide pics or instructions on how to find it.

TypeSDragon

My 08 TLS doesn't have this feature either. Only the avg mpg in the trip computer screen. The 08 TSX loaner I drove had this feature, it shows exactly my mpg by how much I push on the gas pedal.

BradE

I have a 08' TL-S that I just bought 2 weeks ago, it does NOT have the instant MPG feature that I have found. Only shows average MPG.

123456SPEED

My 88 Legend Coupe had instant and average mpg. Doesn't the RL have instant mpg too? THe loaner 08 TSX I had had both too.

RandallW

WTF? I have a 08 TL that I purchased in November last year. There's a MPG indicator, but it's not an instantaneous one. It'll retain the same tank/reading until you reset it by manually holding down the button.

Where are you getting this info from?

alextclam

I have an 08 TL-S and my MPG indicator adjusts to the speed I'm driving. So if I'm stuck in traffic and driving slow, it drops to 10 MPG. If I'm on the highway driving at a faster speed, it goes back up to 18-20 MPG. Is this what you guys mean by instantaneous? If so, then it does have this feature.

say when

Are you sure you. My 08 tl-s does not do that. It has an average mpg along with average mph. I only see the mpg change much when it is reset other wise it is around 24-25. I believe it even says avg. in the little screen.

alextclam

Yes, I'm pretty sure. Only because I saw it go down to 9 MPG while driving one time and I thought what the... Then a few minutes later it went back up to 18 MPG.

In fact I almost got into an accident because I was stupid for staring at it go up and down when I was cruising at 30 - 35 MPH, hah.

tuoncan

Here it is;

Ken1997TL

Mixture of the MDX and the new Accord. No surprise there. I like it too.

mikiTL

My 07 TL Base Model does this too. Every couple of minutes , depending on the speed I am going, the avg mpg will change, without having to hold reset or manually clear it. It isn't instantaneous though (it doesn't change as you accelerate if that is what some people are thinking it is supposed to do). I would estimate around 2-5 minutes it changes slightly. One time on the way to Las Vegas it read 44mpg for some time, and then normalized to 28mpg after having to go around slower traffic and hills/curves.

NTP66

Likes:
Trim work
Push-button start
Steering wheel (sad, right?)

Dislikes:
Navi and it's dash hump of a hood
Giant nipple in the center console
Gear shift so damn close to the console (reminds me of my sister's 06 Civic)
Navi and it's dash hump of a hood (again)

Obviously, these are my own opinions. Yours may vary.

alextclam

I wonder how the non-navi models look. What will be in place of the dash hump?

timmahh

Hmm.. well.. couple of ideas

- The nav screen could be replaced with a standard informative LCD screen there [sorta like the current gen; climate control etc. displayed on that screen - like how the current Toyota Avalon is setup - same location, etc. but one has a nav screen, the other just has a basic LCD screen w/ climate / temp control]

- Completely different dash w/o the hump and a completely different radio since the ELS system is said to be part of the nav/tech package

timmahh

OR THIS!
(I know this is absolutely horrible.. all I have at work is MS Paint)

Shalooby

I like the touch screen better. I'm sure it was the lawyers that are responsible for this. You don't need to look "down" to see the nav.

timmahh

Correct-o; you'll be able to quickly glance at the nav screen [as well as listen to which letter or option you've stopped on]; vs diverting most of your attention to look down and see what the screen says, then pushing the correct button with yer finger

BHump

I'm sure the dash will be the same in regards to navi vs non-navi models...wouldn't make financial sense for Acura to develop two dashes.

This is similar to what Nissan / Infiniti does. The touchscreens are much better!

timmahh

again.. crap chop but heres my best shot so far!

YoungCeo

Maybe the screen would be there, but with other information?

JeffS

The dash looks the same except there is no push button start and no climate/audio display screen below the CD slot. The navi screen is instead used for the climate/audio displays as in the Accord and TSX.

03TL_S

ehh,.... i dont like the fact that its a mix of two acura vehicles, and not one of a kind. the 2004 was not a mixture of s##t. i am pretty dissapointed in the 4th gen....

Rocketsfan

They may have multiple versions of the system. I know the one mentioned in the now-pulled interview with the Acura Engineer was a 440 (it was 400+, can't remember if it was exactly 440) watt, 10-speaker system. It won't be the same ELS system as in the 3G.

The engineer said that the ELS system in the 3G was so clear at high volumes people complained they couldn't crank the audio. He said, what people usually hate is the distortion at high volumes, so people listening to the ELS wanted it to go even louder when they heard little distortion at high volumes. The 400+ watt system with a couple of more speakers was their answer.

mmade22

You are correct. I have a DTS CD of Sting and it reads it and says DTS on the center display.

The interior on this car.....Anyone see a new EX-L Honda Accord??

amk6453

iTrader: (1)

i like the interior more than exterior...

sol_da_man

i see a lot of 3G interior in the 4G interior

NFLblitze1

i hate the paddle shifters and will miss the touch screen

NFLblitze1

i will also miss my casette deck player

bigred123

Any idea what the Sync button is for?