Yes, yet another CAMBER KIT thread

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Old 04-14-2015, 08:23 PM
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Yes, yet another CAMBER KIT thread

Ive read up on a few threads about certain kits.

Reason im making a thread about it is I dont know exactly which kit will be good for me.

Im currently on FF-T1 "will be getting T2 soon" and rather low. But i want to change my wheel setup for the summer and go lower with negative camber because i will be getting wider wheels with beefy tires.

Im leaning towards ingalls front and rear.

Wondering what you guys think about this kit.. Good enough for a semi aggressive negative camber?

Thanks guys/ gals
Old 04-14-2015, 09:16 PM
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I recommend skunk2 up front and SPC in the back.
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Old 04-17-2015, 12:11 AM
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I'm running Skunk2 up front and Ingalls in the rear with a fairly aggressive setup and no complaints...
Old 04-17-2015, 12:19 PM
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Ingalls will definitely do the job for a semi-aggressive setup. I would highly recommend them. We do also carry the SPC and Skunk2 kits, but they don't have as wide a range of adjustment.

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Old 04-17-2015, 06:39 PM
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I really like the ingall rears..

Not sure for the front tho. I dont plan to really camber my wheels out its more for a nice camber tuck look.

Im going to be running a 245 tire with 9.75 wide wheel. My fenders are already rolled but mostly will be cut and shaved for better clearance.
Old 04-22-2015, 10:45 AM
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Perhaps you missed the thread with thousands of reads, you aren't doing your homework.

https://acurazine.com/forums/tires-w...review-864705/

And there goes the vendor pushing Ingalls again. Ingalls = problems. I've sent my Ingalls arms back into their R&D for testing recently. Get SPC instead.
Old 04-23-2015, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FamilyGuy
I recommend skunk2 up front and SPC in the back.
This and stock rear lateral arms. Ingalls is full on china crap. Skunk2 up front keeps ball joint from hitting the strut tower.
Old 04-23-2015, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by t-rd
Perhaps you missed the thread with thousands of reads, you aren't doing your homework.

https://acurazine.com/forums/tires-w...review-864705/

And there goes the vendor pushing Ingalls again. Ingalls = problems. I've sent my Ingalls arms back into their R&D for testing recently. Get SPC instead.
There is nothing to test, I'm sure they know. If they had any engineering sense, they would copy the oem bushing design and be done with it. It's pretty clear the issue is bushing deflection and drying out too soon. If they make a change, that is likely what they will do, copy oem design. Then you run Into the complexity of making adjustments on both arms. If you don't know what you are doing, you can cause yourself other issues from what a suspension engineer has explained to me. Camber arm and oem lateral arms seem like the only solution.

The vendors have made it clear here, they don't care to Investigate, nor clean this up. Their rhetoric is strong and I can smell the bs from miles away. If I sold a product with these many issues, they would be on hold until a solution is found- end of story.

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Old 04-24-2015, 11:46 AM
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Ingalls had some issues with their bushings in the past, which have since been resolved. We have sold the Ingalls kits for many years to hundreds of customers, of which we have gotten maybe 1 or 2 complaints (back before Ingalls resolved the bushing issue). We continue to sell the kits and get positive feedback on a regular basis. The quality of a part and its components isn't the only factor that affects longevity. Proper installation and use is key.
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Originally Posted by ExcelerateRep
Ingalls had an update for their bushings to fix this issue. If you do go with the Ingalls kit, make sure you confirm with the vendor that you are getting their latest revision. The Ingalls kits we have in stock are their latest revision and we haven't had many issues at all....
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Ingalls had some issues with their bushings in the past, which have since been resolved...
How/when did you become aware of the bushing issue? Did Ingalls send out a notification to retailers?

Did Ingalls recall the bad arms that were still in stock or did you (and other retailers) continue to sell those after receiving notification from Ingalls that the bushing were bad?

How long ago was the switch made?
Old 04-29-2015, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ExcelerateRep
Ingalls had an update for their bushings to fix this issue. .....
Originally Posted by ExcelerateRep
Ingalls had some issues with their bushings in the past, which have since been resolved. We have sold the Ingalls kits for many years to hundreds of customers, of which we have gotten maybe 1 or 2 complaints (back before Ingalls resolved the bushing issue). We continue to sell the kits and get positive feedback on a regular basis. The quality of a part and its components isn't the only factor that affects longevity. Proper installation and use is key.
Bump....

How/when did you become aware of the bushing issue? Did Ingalls send out a notification to retailers?

Did Ingalls recall the bad arms that were still in stock or did you (and other retailers) continue to sell those after receiving notification from Ingalls that the bushing were bad?
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Also, when you learned of the bad bushings, did you reach out to all of your customers who bought the bad sets and let them know?
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The changes were made a number of years ago. Ingalls did notify us about the update and provided us with the updated bushings. We did not continue to sell the old ones. We did not reach out to individual customers as out of the hundreds we had sold, we only had a couple cases where customers reported an issue. We helped those customers promptly and have continued to sell the Ingalls kits to this day with very positive feedback.
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Originally Posted by ExcelerateRep
The changes were made a number of years ago. Ingalls did notify us about the update and provided us with the updated bushings. We did not continue to sell the old ones. We did not reach out to individual customers as out of the hundreds we had sold, we only had a couple cases where customers reported an issue. We helped those customers promptly and have continued to sell the Ingalls kits to this day with very positive feedback.
"...a number of years ago...."? Exactly what does that mean?

Interesting, because several Azine members have documented Ingalls bushing failure since "...a number of years go...".
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And for those of you who are lowered/considering lowering, Ingalls specifically voids their own warranty:

"Use of this product in competition, or use on vehicles altered from original manufacturer's specifications or settings, EXPRESSLY VOIDS WARRANTY. The user is urged to inspect for suspension binding or interference when the product is used in these manners. However, due to the varying conditions and manner of use which the product will be subjected to in such uses, Ingalls Engineering Co., Inc. makes no warranties, either express or implied, including any warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose for use in competition or with specifications or setting other than those specified by the original manufacturer's specifications."

SPC makes no such statement....
Old 04-29-2015, 12:50 PM
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Whoa. That wuz straight to the point.

Oh, yeah.. how come Marcus, the heel toe guy knew nothing about this. How come Ingalls knew NOTHING about this when they were called?

We are being fed bs it seems.

No one willing to come clean.
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