JoshD_99EM1

I love the way that looks, but Im hoping for no more than 1.5 degrees of camber. And no pulling. My em1 has 3 degrees of camber in the rear and 2.5 in the front so I know its not that extreme, but its not what I want for this car :/

Vietnastee

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On S-Techs and with those specs, I don't think you need to roll the fronts.

I would agree with Pitorican and go with a smaller tire for the fronts. 245 is too big on a 8" wide rim. go with 235 or 225 (safer to prevent the cutting/rubbing).

Go with 235 on the rears. You just need to roll the rears.

You should be able to pull this off with -1.5 degrees of camber and at that height.

JoshD_99EM1

I don't mind rolling, I just don't want to pull them. And I hoping the natural camber will bring them in enough. I think I will opt for the 235/35 or 235/40

Vietnastee

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You're going to rub if you run 235/40.

Refer to post #165. Your rear wheels are going to sit 8mm closer to the fender than this.

This will help give you an idea if you want to run this kind of setup or not.

JoshD_99EM1

Noted. Thank you sir. I will go with the 235/35 then.

Edit: We have the same offset (or close enough), but my wheel is half an inch narrower. Where are the 8mm coming from? The width?

Vietnastee

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That is correct. The two calculators below will help give you a better understanding.

1) http://www.willtheyfit.com/
2) http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator

JoshD_99EM1

Appreciate those links! I knew about tyrestretch.com but I didn't know about the calculators. First one is awesome with the pcs and everything. Who ever made that site deserves a thumbs up!

mirmOn

glad i am looking at this info before buying anything!

twigglius

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Knowing that bforbrian and ballinfizzle did roll their fenders, I have 2 questions.

1. I am contemplating the difference between 19x9.5 +30 or +22 on the rear. I know 8mm isn't that much so my question is this. I know I will need to roll my rear fenders to fit the +22 but will I need to in order to fit the +30? I am NOT running a camber kit and prefere not to if I don't have to. Tire size will be 235x35x19 and I am lowered roughly 2''.
2. If I run 19x9.5+34 in the front with a 235x35x19 will I still need to roll the front fenders as well?

Loking at my 3rd set of wheels and want to do it right and not get a 4th set.

Vietnastee

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Twigglius, are you looking to be flush or slightly under flush?

I see in you signature that you have some 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 wheels. What offset are the 19x9.5 wheels?

Honestly, I think you should go just buy some washers from Home Depot and put them on 3 of your lug bolts to seat your current wheels further out to see how they sit. Then make a decision from there. Washers are a whole lot cheaper than a 4th set of rims.

I'm guessing for the fronts you should be good with 19x9.5+34. I'm just basing it off ballinfizzle's picture.

I looked closely at jonmizu's picture again and he just put the rim on and dropped it. So there is positive camber. Look at the bottom of the rim and how it lines up with his rear fender.




For the rears, I would go with a 19x9.5+22 and get the camber kit for more flushness. But it's just up to you.

twigglius

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thanks for the input. my 9.5's are +34.

Silvercarfreak

You mentioned you have been through many different wheels for your TL. I am considering upping to 18's or 19's and am afraid of degradation of ride quality. I drive about 20K miles per year. The standard ride is a little harsh to begin with. How do you like the ride quality?

brianinthe610

my eyes are starting to hurt from research so im caving and asking

19 x 8.5 +38
19 x 9.5 +38

i have bags on the way but torn between tire sizes, i do have 10mm spacers in my possession as well just in case the are need to make everything better

twigglius

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^^if you want the fronts to be flush you will need the spacers for sure. 19x8.5+38 is not that aggressive at all. I have run that setup with zero issues, lowered 2". The rear offset isn't too bad.

twigglius

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I have another question too.. Looking at 19x9.5+40 in the front. I'm not worried about rubbing the fender but what about the inside of the wheel? I am currently on 19x8.5+34 in the front. Going 19x9.5+40 will give me 19mm LESS inner clearance. Will this work?

The Russian

Varrstoen 3.3.2 19x9.5+22

twigglius

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Did you roll fenders and run a camber kit front and rear?

twigglius

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did this thread die? lol

05_NBP_TL

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Pretty sure he is rolled front and rear. He added a rear camber kit and has natural camber up front...soon to be running the "hellaflush" skunk2 arms iirc.

No, everyone started searching/reading and found all the answers to their fitment questions. all sizes/width rims have been discussed so there is no need to post ?'s about fitment here anymore.

twigglius

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Vietnastee

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For his fronts, it looks like he did a slight fender pull from this picture he posted.

odishaw

here is a rear 9.5 +22 rear, with falken 452- 225/35, natural camber, tien SS nearly max low, fenders rolled and slighly pulled. front is 9.5 +22 225/35




and this is a 10.5 +22 rear with falken 452 235/35, with rear camber arms, front skunk2 camber kit max camber, fenders rolled, and slightly pulled. front is 9.5 +22 215/35





and this was 9.5 +22 with 215/35 front and 235/35 rear, with rear camber arms, front skunk2 camber kit max camber







my experience so far, 9.5 +22 front is pretty damn flush, 225/35 tire is great if you wanna slam it and not worry much about too much rubbing. 215/35 is way too narrow wouldnt ever recommend lol


Hope this helps you guys out with your fitment

Legitka9

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The look is cool but if it rubs, it isn't meant to fit!

DooooT

Any more pics of the front with this set up??

grecom3

im gonna be getting 19 inch vossen cv3's for my TL and it's already dropped 1 inch using the eibach kit anybody think that will still look flush?

brianinthe610

i was thinkin the same, i do have 10mm in the garage just in case so thank you for your confirmation

twigglius

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I have done a lot of research. On AZine and on many other sites on the interwebs. I understand offsets, camber and even caster but I have to ask... Well, let me start with what I "think" I know.

If you take a standard one piece wheel. let's say an Enkei that is 19x9.5+22 and a Forgestar that is 19x9.5+22, the wheel will sit the same on the car, correct? But if you have a 3 piece wheel with a mid disk or a high disk or an L disk, etc, etc then the same 19x9.5+22 will sit differently on the vehicle based on the disck, yes or no?

If yes then my question is this. How come it seems that some members say they tried and couldn't fit a 19x9.5+22 without crazy camber and rolling and pulling fenders? But other members say that they didn't have issues fitting with minimal camber and a roll? I understand the amounbt of lowering will have an affect on this as well as 225x35x19 vs 235x35x19, so on and so forth.

I am still just trying how far I can go with natural camber and a roll? Thsi is why I am asking the question. Like I have said before, I am buying my third set of wheels and don't want to make it a fourth. I want to be aggressive enough without beeing ridiculous and the wheels I have been looking at are in the range of 19x9+30 for one set and the other wheel I am considering is the Forgestar F14 so the offset could be whatever I want.

Thoughts are very welcome. Thanks.

Vietnastee

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The 19x9.5+22 wheel will sit the same independent of the type of disk (high, mid, low, super low, etc.)

For a 2pc and 3pc wheel, the disk type will affect the amount of lip and BBK clearance on that wheel only.

I hope this picture helps.



Some additional info, for the new 1pc wheels, the disk type will usually affect the concavity of the wheel.

twigglius

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yes that makes perfect sense.

hennessy_r24

Planning on buying a set of varrstoen es2 in hyper black for my wdp type s, will 19x9.5 +30/+22 work with 235/35 up front and 245/35 in the rear with a 2" drop and without rolling fender? Want to get the look of my old e46 M without going so low

twigglius

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You might want to call VarrStoen and double check on the 19x9.5+30. I know it's listed on their site but I don't think they ever made that offset.

hennessy_r24

,Checked in a few of their vendors online and they have on stock and saw a tsx running that offset upfront . I just want to verify that it will clear the front brembo brakes, I know a loot of guys are using 19x9.5 +22 square offset with 225/35 but I want something less aggressive up front so I can use wider tires.

KJ TL-S

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Been looking at potentially running a rear 19x9.5 +12 offset, anyone have opinions on if this is doable without a ton of camber? I'm lowered on Tein SA, probably only about 1.5", and rear fenders are rolled. Tires would be 225/35s

KJ TL-S

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Also, to clear Brembos with the ES2s, you need a +15 offset, so a +22 with a 7mm spacer.

insxtc

Hey guys, I didnt notice this thread. (sorry for the thread I made about this by itself) I figure I get more info here. My TL is roughly lowered by an inch I believe, trying to run these wheels from a g35 coupe...

19x8.5 +15 front, 19x10 +20 which is wrapped in Falken fk45 tires. Front tires are 245/35, rears are 275/35.

Is it worth it to buy and pull/roll fenders. Thank you in advance.

neo9080

i have 18s that are 30 offset and looks perfect as well. great pics!

jaminhw1

will 17x7 dish rims even show a big deep dish?

jaminhw1

or should I go with 18x8

k1x

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^depends on the offset the lower the number of the offset, the deeper the lips on the rim

twigglius

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Man for a 7" wide wheel to have a lip the offset would need to be around +0