Want to upgrade your Comptech RSB Sway Bar? Use better bushings w/grease fittings...
#82
I knew about the teflon trick, but you still have a cheap rubber bushing that is 1/2 the size of the upgraded ones. Also, I was thinking the teflon would be likely to chafe / wear over time, and just like grease, end up needing to be replaced, not to mention increaseing the diameter of the bar and reducing the tolerance between it and the bushing, so I felt grease would be better. Especially where you can just hook up to it 6 months from now and re-grease in 2 seconds w/no disassembly like those who use teflon or grease on a non-greasable bushing. Obviously all sway bars have this problem if there's a product designed with this in mind, lol..that's why they won the SEMA award for this product last year (wish I'd thought of it! hehe). Cool that someone else is making a bar w/the better bushings, Comptech should do the same.
Anyone yet figure out how to get off the front bushings or what size they are? Anyone w/a service manual?
Anyone yet figure out how to get off the front bushings or what size they are? Anyone w/a service manual?
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Originally Posted by Gunsnroses316
will this work? i just got my comptech rear sway bar from aoe and he sent me the old bushing, i want to install on so if i just put teflon tape around the bar where the bushing goes , would it be ok. as i was going to order #9-5126R from e s but they are out of stock till end of april. advice needed
My advice: order the black ones then (#9-5126G), Doesn't matter what color, its not like anyone else is going to see them
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#9-5126 on back order at summit racing, i was gonna drop by at thier store in ga , but have to wait for a few weeks until they get it. any other place , tried advanced auto no luck autozone no luck,will try pepboys next
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i bought them from http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/sale...Non-Greaseable
you want to get the 'Small Universal 7/8" 22mm Sway Bar Bushing Set ' either 64315 or 64317 (black or red)... checked the part number by chekcing their amazon stock (their result comes up when you search for the energy suspension part number).
i'm giving it a run so i'll let you guys know when i recieve it.
you want to get the 'Small Universal 7/8" 22mm Sway Bar Bushing Set ' either 64315 or 64317 (black or red)... checked the part number by chekcing their amazon stock (their result comes up when you search for the energy suspension part number).
i'm giving it a run so i'll let you guys know when i recieve it.
#87
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Originally Posted by zeezz
i bought them from http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/sale...Non-Greaseable
you want to get the 'Small Universal 7/8" 22mm Sway Bar Bushing Set ' either 64315 or 64317 (black or red)... checked the part number by chekcing their amazon stock (their result comes up when you search for the energy suspension part number).
i'm giving it a run so i'll let you guys know when i recieve it.
you want to get the 'Small Universal 7/8" 22mm Sway Bar Bushing Set ' either 64315 or 64317 (black or red)... checked the part number by chekcing their amazon stock (their result comes up when you search for the energy suspension part number).
i'm giving it a run so i'll let you guys know when i recieve it.
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Originally Posted by zeezz
i bought them from http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/sale...Non-Greaseable
you want to get the 'Small Universal 7/8" 22mm Sway Bar Bushing Set ' either 64315 or 64317 (black or red)... checked the part number by chekcing their amazon stock (their result comes up when you search for the energy suspension part number).
i'm giving it a run so i'll let you guys know when i recieve it.
you want to get the 'Small Universal 7/8" 22mm Sway Bar Bushing Set ' either 64315 or 64317 (black or red)... checked the part number by chekcing their amazon stock (their result comes up when you search for the energy suspension part number).
i'm giving it a run so i'll let you guys know when i recieve it.
#90
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Just installed mine yesterday and I must say it's an excellent compliment to the A-spec suspension. Maybe they should be offered in a kit by themselves? Car really feels firm in tight cornering now without any sacrifice of everday driving comfort.
#91
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Yeah, I'm a big fan of these components. Comparing new brushing to new brushing (Comptech vs. Energy Susp.), the Energy ones are simply better. Bigger and more pliable... No thumps or strange noises either. Then again, I just installed the sway bar, so I have no noise reference. But one thing for sure, it's still quiet in my cabin. Just the sweet sound of VTEC engagement.
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Originally Posted by KenUA6
So want to comfrim it is part# 9-5126R non-grease color red rite??
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By the way, instead of ordering from horsepowerfreak.com directly $28 shipped, you can order it from amazon $24 shipped.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...nce&n=15684181
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...nce&n=15684181
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i got 22 shiped on horsepowerfreak.com
Originally Posted by waacow
By the way, instead of ordering from horsepowerfreak.com directly $28 shipped, you can order it from amazon $24 shipped.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...nce&n=15684181
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...nce&n=15684181
#102
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Guys...
I have a very elegant solution to all the trouble most folks are having with the "greasable" Energy Suspenions sway bar bushings.
After wrestling with mine for an hour, here's what I found to make those bushings bolt right on...
1) Yes, dremeling/filing the inner portion of the mount and a minor bend in the bracket (as gqchicago illustrates) is very helpful, do this, but more importantly...
2) Use new bolts.
The bracket is thicker, as is the provided washer. The OEM bolts barely have enough threads to brab the frame when installed.
I used metric "button head hex-socket screws" (stainless steel) M8x25
The button head makes it a snap to tighten (no open ended wrench needed, just and allen wrench), and the longer bolt allows some clearance to get the bolt started on the mount so you don't have to flex so damn hard to get the threads to bite.
I almost stripped the frame bolt trying to get the second OEM bolts started... PITA
Yes, it's another $7 for a box of 10 stainless bolts, but it's so worth it to avoid the frustrations... plus they're stainless! When I dug these bolts out of my bolt can, it took about 4 minutes to get the swaybar installed.
Get em here:
www.mcmaster.com
item: 92095A286 † 5.05 (for a pack of 10), you could split a set (you only need 4 of course) with another member if you like.
I have a very elegant solution to all the trouble most folks are having with the "greasable" Energy Suspenions sway bar bushings.
After wrestling with mine for an hour, here's what I found to make those bushings bolt right on...
1) Yes, dremeling/filing the inner portion of the mount and a minor bend in the bracket (as gqchicago illustrates) is very helpful, do this, but more importantly...
2) Use new bolts.
The bracket is thicker, as is the provided washer. The OEM bolts barely have enough threads to brab the frame when installed.
I used metric "button head hex-socket screws" (stainless steel) M8x25
The button head makes it a snap to tighten (no open ended wrench needed, just and allen wrench), and the longer bolt allows some clearance to get the bolt started on the mount so you don't have to flex so damn hard to get the threads to bite.
I almost stripped the frame bolt trying to get the second OEM bolts started... PITA
Yes, it's another $7 for a box of 10 stainless bolts, but it's so worth it to avoid the frustrations... plus they're stainless! When I dug these bolts out of my bolt can, it took about 4 minutes to get the swaybar installed.
Get em here:
www.mcmaster.com
item: 92095A286 † 5.05 (for a pack of 10), you could split a set (you only need 4 of course) with another member if you like.
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OK.. So I installed my non-greasable bushings this weekend. Quick question, does the grease/lubricant that comes with them go:
1. Between the bushings and the swaybar
2. Between the bushing and the metal clamp
3. Both
Thanks guys... Didn't know what i should do here....
1. Between the bushings and the swaybar
2. Between the bushing and the metal clamp
3. Both
Thanks guys... Didn't know what i should do here....
#105
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Originally Posted by jmbnova
OK.. So I installed my non-greasable bushings this weekend. Quick question, does the grease/lubricant that comes with them go:
1. Between the bushings and the swaybar
2. Between the bushing and the metal clamp
3. Both
Thanks guys... Didn't know what i should do here....
1. Between the bushings and the swaybar
2. Between the bushing and the metal clamp
3. Both
Thanks guys... Didn't know what i should do here....
Anyone try to install ES bushings on the front swaybar?
The 6MT has a 27 mm FSB bar, which is ES part number: 9.5162.
Would those brackets fit?
#106
I was looking into installing these on the front, but when I looked it up in the service manual (and under the car)...they are pretty hard to access. The service manual says you have to drop the engine sub-frame to get at these...doesn't look nearly as easy as the rear ones were.
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Originally Posted by gqchicago
I was looking into installing these on the front, but when I looked it up in the service manual (and under the car)...they are pretty hard to access. The service manual says you have to drop the engine sub-frame to get at these...doesn't look nearly as easy as the rear ones were.
#110
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i installed the greaseable bushings on my front bar in my 2nd Gen CL, which is 27mm. it wasn't exactly easy, but i did it in a few hours in my driveway with basic hand tools.
the longer bolt idea is perfect, you should do it for the front too, and i'm sure it would be much easier.
the longer bolt idea is perfect, you should do it for the front too, and i'm sure it would be much easier.
#111
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I finally installed the Comptech RSB with non-greaseable bushing from energy suspension.
Took me a little bit under one hour. I notice the plastic bushing didn't completely wrap around the RSB but with the metal bracket does and it seems to fit well. Took a test drive by going to pick up the dinner, I have to say the handling in deed feel better now... well, see tomorrow when i do more aggressive driving...
Took me a little bit under one hour. I notice the plastic bushing didn't completely wrap around the RSB but with the metal bracket does and it seems to fit well. Took a test drive by going to pick up the dinner, I have to say the handling in deed feel better now... well, see tomorrow when i do more aggressive driving...
#112
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Originally Posted by waacow
I finally installed the Comptech RSB with non-greaseable bushing from energy suspension.
Took me a little bit under one hour. I notice the plastic bushing didn't completely wrap around the RSB but with the metal bracket does and it seems to fit well. Took a test drive by going to pick up the dinner, I have to say the handling in deed feel better now... well, see tomorrow when i do more aggressive driving...
Took me a little bit under one hour. I notice the plastic bushing didn't completely wrap around the RSB but with the metal bracket does and it seems to fit well. Took a test drive by going to pick up the dinner, I have to say the handling in deed feel better now... well, see tomorrow when i do more aggressive driving...
#113
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Originally Posted by ding069
I did mine last thursday, RSB and Energy non-greasable bushings. Incredible handling difference for under $140 and one hours labor. Looking at your pics tho, I used the washers ES supplied with the kit. Those bolts don't look as secure as they should be.
#114
acura-cl.com OG
I beleive that the oem washers are attached to the bolts. I left mine on and used the washers ES supplied. I didnt run into any problems with the bolts being too short.....
#115
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yup.. just re-bolted those 4 bolts with ES washer on top of existing washers. They seems to be still long enough to thread into the housing. *thumb-up* thanks safety first..
here is the updated pic:
here is the updated pic:
#117
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ha... you got red envy.. i won't tell others that you got a black brushing.. not sure why i got a red one instead of black one.. i guess i don't really care.
#118
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posted 3-22-06
Ol Blue Eyes,
if I'm understanding you correctly, that would make it approximately five months (give or take) from the time you installed the RSB and the time you started hearing clunks. I'm curious to see if the new bushings will prove to be better. If I remember right, weren't there issues (noises) with greasing the CT bushings prior to installing them? I'm not sure if I should just try the H&R RSB, or Comptech with longer bolts and greasable bushings(I know it's more work, but I like the ease of re-greasing). Any thoughts , Thanks
Originally Posted by Ol Blue Eyes
i believe I installed my sway bar from comptech almost exactly a year ago. probably about 14k miles on it since the install. starting noticing the clunking noise around august(not for sure) some time.
kjelly, yes they are brand new, and I myself will be curious to see them after after some wear and tear. time will tell.
kjelly, yes they are brand new, and I myself will be curious to see them after after some wear and tear. time will tell.
if I'm understanding you correctly, that would make it approximately five months (give or take) from the time you installed the RSB and the time you started hearing clunks. I'm curious to see if the new bushings will prove to be better. If I remember right, weren't there issues (noises) with greasing the CT bushings prior to installing them? I'm not sure if I should just try the H&R RSB, or Comptech with longer bolts and greasable bushings(I know it's more work, but I like the ease of re-greasing). Any thoughts , Thanks
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
Guys...
I have a very elegant solution to all the trouble most folks are having with the "greasable" Energy Suspenions sway bar bushings.
After wrestling with mine for an hour, here's what I found to make those bushings bolt right on...
1) Yes, dremeling/filing the inner portion of the mount and a minor bend in the bracket (as gqchicago illustrates) is very helpful, do this, but more importantly...
2) Use new bolts.
The bracket is thicker, as is the provided washer. The OEM bolts barely have enough threads to brab the frame when installed.
I used metric "button head hex-socket screws" (stainless steel) M8x25
The button head makes it a snap to tighten (no open ended wrench needed, just and allen wrench), and the longer bolt allows some clearance to get the bolt started on the mount so you don't have to flex so damn hard to get the threads to bite.
I almost stripped the frame bolt trying to get the second OEM bolts started... PITA
Yes, it's another $7 for a box of 10 stainless bolts, but it's so worth it to avoid the frustrations... plus they're stainless! When I dug these bolts out of my bolt can, it took about 4 minutes to get the swaybar installed.
Get em here:
www.mcmaster.com
item: 92095A286 † 5.05 (for a pack of 10), you could split a set (you only need 4 of course) with another member if you like.
I have a very elegant solution to all the trouble most folks are having with the "greasable" Energy Suspenions sway bar bushings.
After wrestling with mine for an hour, here's what I found to make those bushings bolt right on...
1) Yes, dremeling/filing the inner portion of the mount and a minor bend in the bracket (as gqchicago illustrates) is very helpful, do this, but more importantly...
2) Use new bolts.
The bracket is thicker, as is the provided washer. The OEM bolts barely have enough threads to brab the frame when installed.
I used metric "button head hex-socket screws" (stainless steel) M8x25
The button head makes it a snap to tighten (no open ended wrench needed, just and allen wrench), and the longer bolt allows some clearance to get the bolt started on the mount so you don't have to flex so damn hard to get the threads to bite.
I almost stripped the frame bolt trying to get the second OEM bolts started... PITA
Yes, it's another $7 for a box of 10 stainless bolts, but it's so worth it to avoid the frustrations... plus they're stainless! When I dug these bolts out of my bolt can, it took about 4 minutes to get the swaybar installed.
Get em here:
www.mcmaster.com
item: 92095A286 † 5.05 (for a pack of 10), you could split a set (you only need 4 of course) with another member if you like.
Kennedy, I ordered these bolts and would like to add a word of advice:
I purchased my car in November 2003 and installed my Comptech Swaybar back in February 2005. My bolts were extremely rusted when I installed the swaybar and yes, they are hard to get back on, especially with the new brackets. I tried to install the new greasable brackets last night and ran into a problem:
1. The bolts you used are great due to their length and material.
2. Unfortunately, the heads strip much easier than a regular hex head bolt. I ended up stripping all four before they were bolted all the way down.
This created an even bigger problem as it was extremely time consuming to get them off after stripping as no allen wrench would work. I finally got them off with a air wrench.
My suggestion is to use another stainless steel bolt, the same length as the ones you suggested but to go with a regular hex head bolt as you will run into less problems installing and potentially if ever required to remove the brackets in the future. The allen head bolts will be much harder later on to remove.
Just my ...................