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Old 02-25-2004, 11:03 AM
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Tire mfg recom. 235's with 8.5 rim?

-nm- said screw it and got 245's.
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Re: Tire mfg recom. 235's with 8.5 rim?

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-nm- said screw it and got 245's.
You got 245's? So did I. I am now wondering if that was the right decision.
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I had mine test fit after reading all the mfg specs and seeing they all recommended 235 for the 8.5" rim. After seeing both on the car, 245's was a no brainer. The 235's looks like rubberbands and have real bad crowning (rim stuck out beyond the tire). The tire mounter also said seating the bead on the 235 is troublesome on the 8.5" tire.
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Originally posted by Skeedatl
I had mine test fit after reading all the mfg specs and seeing they all recommended 235 for the 8.5" rim. After seeing both on the car, 245's was a no brainer. The 235's looks like rubberbands and have real bad crowning (rim stuck out beyond the tire). The tire mounter also said seating the bead on the 235 is troublesome on the 8.5" tire.
That is exactly why I moved up. 245/40 looks great, but do you know what the effect on the speedo will be?
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What diameter?
With stock being 235/45-17
245/40-18 is 1.5% too slow, aka when the speedo says 60 you're going 60.9

245/40-19 is 5.5% too slow, aka when the speedo says 60 you're going 63.3.

My setup, 245/35-19 is 1.7% too slow so when my speedo says 60, I'm actually going 61.
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Originally posted by Skeedatl
What diameter?
With stock being 235/45-17
245/40-18 is 1.5% too slow, aka when the speedo says 60 you're going 60.9

245/40-19 is 5.5% too slow, aka when the speedo says 60 you're going 63.3.

My setup, 245/35-19 is 1.7% too slow so when my speedo says 60, I'm actually going 61.
I have 245/40/18. I can deal with 1.5%. I am still wondering why it feels like the acceleration has slowed as these rims are supposed to be close to the stock weight.
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Turn off the VSA and see if you can fry the tires off it. If you can, it could be the traction control cutting power. The tires may just not have as much grip out of the hole so the VSA isn't permitting as fast of acceleration as before. A few 10ths which is what the difference would be if any would be isn't perceptible.
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Originally posted by Skeedatl
Turn off the VSA and see if you can fry the tires off it. If you can, it could be the traction control cutting power. The tires may just not have as much grip out of the hole so the VSA isn't permitting as fast of acceleration as before. A few 10ths which is what the difference would be if any would be isn't perceptible.
I would try this, but I only have 350 miles on it. I want to wait until 600 before I really open it up.
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601, then beat the living crap out of it
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Even though the wheel and tire combo may be similar in weight to the stock set up, the rotational inertia will increase because the larger wheel has more of the weight concentrated further away from the center. That extra leverage requires more torque to turn the wheels and so that's why your acceleration (and braking for that matter) will suffer with larger wheels.
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Originally posted by TLMugen
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Even though the wheel and tire combo may be similar in weight to the stock set up, the rotational inertia will increase because the larger wheel has more of the weight concentrated further away from the center. That extra leverage requires more torque to turn the wheels and so that's why your acceleration (and braking for that matter) will suffer with larger wheels.
How much affect on braking? I am still in the break-in period so I don't want to do a hard break test.

Do you think this would change if I kept the same overall diameter by changin to 235/40/18?
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It's hard to say how much braking will be affected, maybe a couple of feet from 70-0. I guess you'd have to measure it using a G-meter for accurate results. As far as the tire size goes, I'm not sure there would be much difference between the two 18" sizes. The biggest hit would have been with the Plus-2 upgrade.
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What about replacing the 235/45/17's with 245/45/17's on an '04 TL?

Anyone try this yet?
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235!...
245!!!!..

way too wide..

it is not a formula 1 racer..

your'e gonna kill your acceleration and your gas mileage..
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