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Old 09-21-2007 | 11:34 PM
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Cool They said It couldn't be done.......

So I did it today.
I put on GoodYear Eagle F1's in the 265-35-18 on my aspec TL. All I can say is WOW!! No rubbing at all. Full lock to lock turning. So glad I dumped the yuco's, 20k and showing cords! It is so so quite. Really a BIG difference... This is the way too go folks. I mean the best!
Old 09-22-2007 | 01:01 AM
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Daaanng! Those are some wide tires. Pics please!
Old 09-22-2007 | 01:56 AM
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I believe the politically correct statement is

Old 09-22-2007 | 06:27 AM
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Old 09-22-2007 | 07:45 AM
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Not to bust your bubble, but those tires should be on a 9" minimum width rim because of the cross section width.

As the GY F1 has actually a small tread size 265/35-18 at 9.0", you can get a 245/35-18 with a 8.9" tread size and you'd never notice the difference. Also the 265 is on 25.3" diameter while the 245 is the more standard size of 25.7".

The 265 has a cross section width of 10.6" compared to a 9.8" of the 245, making it too wide for the rim.
Old 09-22-2007 | 10:54 AM
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^ whats all the math about, I finished my math freshman year in college, in other news if they fit, handle better, feel more comfortable, who cares how wide they are for the rim, whats the worst that can happen uneven tire wear that wont show up for another 25k miles
Old 09-22-2007 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
^ whats all the math about, I finished my math freshman year in college, in other news if they fit, handle better, feel more comfortable, who cares how wide they are for the rim, whats the worst that can happen uneven tire wear that wont show up for another 25k miles
I see it was only your feshman year. Hopefully you'll know a great deal more when you're a senior............I doubt it though!
Old 09-22-2007 | 02:20 PM
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pics!!????
Old 09-22-2007 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
I see it was only your feshman year. Hopefully you'll know a great deal more when you're a senior............I doubt it though!
<--- because I am 21 doesn't mean I am still in college, I am actually persuing my masters, have over a month I started it (BS in Legal Studies - Magna CL)

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Old 09-22-2007 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
I believe the politically correct statement is

I would have to agree!
Old 09-22-2007 | 06:14 PM
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If they fit, they fit . I'll take some pics. Soon as time permits. I Have a KILLER headache today. So hopefully tomoro....


I this my headache came from too, too many "g" forces on the freeway on ramps. These tiers are "the best"!!

Well at least the nosebleed stopped!
Old 09-22-2007 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
^ whats all the math about, I finished my math freshman year in college, in other news if they fit, handle better, feel more comfortable, who cares how wide they are for the rim, whats the worst that can happen uneven tire wear that wont show up for another 25k miles
If the wheel is too wide for the rim, you are losing sidewall stiffness, uneven wear, and sometimes it may just look ugly. =)
Old 09-22-2007 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by aznbo187
If the wheel is too wide for the rim, you are losing sidewall stiffness, uneven wear, and sometimes it may just look ugly. =)
Not to mention that they could simply also "pop" off the car during hard cornering. I think the term was "SHOULDN'T" do it rather than Couldn't do it That SHOULD NOT, should not... be taken lightly. Get ina wreck due to that tire size and even your insurance won't pay for the damages (because you used incorrect equipment) on the car. Hey, your young and have yet to learn valuable lessons so why not start with this one...
Old 09-22-2007 | 10:15 PM
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What's the A-Spec rim size - 18 x 8 or 18 x 8.5?
Old 09-22-2007 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
Not to mention that they could simply also "pop" off the car during hard cornering. I think the term was "SHOULDN'T" do it rather than Couldn't do it That SHOULD NOT, should not... be taken lightly.
In fact, I'm surprised you were able to find a shop willing to install the tires for you considering the potential liability issues.
Old 09-23-2007 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
Not to bust your bubble, but those tires should be on a 9" minimum width rim because of the cross section width.

As the GY F1 has actually a small tread size 265/35-18 at 9.0", you can get a 245/35-18 with a 8.9" tread size and you'd never notice the difference. Also the 265 is on 25.3" diameter while the 245 is the more standard size of 25.7".

The 265 has a cross section width of 10.6" compared to a 9.8" of the 245, making it too wide for the rim.
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Old 09-23-2007 | 09:42 PM
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OK, but do you still want some pic's?
I thought so......












Old 09-23-2007 | 10:01 PM
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They look great. The GS-D3's are great tires and they will be going on my TL as well.
Old 09-23-2007 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
^ whats all the math about, I finished my math freshman year in college, in other news if they fit, handle better, feel more comfortable, who cares how wide they are for the rim, whats the worst that can happen uneven tire wear that wont show up for another 25k miles
LOL. $100 says you don't even get close to 25K out of that set of tires.



255's fit better
Old 09-23-2007 | 10:13 PM
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What are you my mother? If I get 20k out of them that will be more than I got out of the Yokohama's.

Of all places, this form I didn't expect to hear (read) that kinda old lady stuff. Why don't you try to ether be nice or don't say anything at all?
Old 09-23-2007 | 10:16 PM
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I think they look great. According to most people, the 265 is too big for an 8" rim. I've run a 275 on an 8" rim. I'm running a 315 on a 9.5" rim now. They won't pop off, not a chance of that happening. They pop off when people go for the retarded "stretched" look with a wide rim and narrow tire.

What does happen when you run the wide tire on a narrow rim is the footprint changes. It tends to make the middle "cup" or sink inwards so it will wear more on the sides. You may have to run an extra psi or two to get a flat footprint. I initially started my 255s at 40psi and lowered the footprint was right. What I ended up with was 34psi front and 31rear. So much for running more pressure.

Don't worry about what people say as most have never tried this. It is perfectly acceptable to run the 265 on an 8" rim as long as you get the pressure right. In stock form, the little 235s looked way too narrow for the rim anyway and to me made the car look cheap.
Old 09-23-2007 | 10:29 PM
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yeah man some of the people on here are retarded and really know nothing from experience and just from what they read in an article or brochure..of course the tire manufacturer or car manufacturer wouldnt suggest putting 265s on because they are very very conservative due to law suits...i had 225s on my 6.5 in tl type-s wheel and had no issues...im sure with added pressure the 265 will work..you will lose sidewall stiffness and the car will seem to roll a little more..in my opinion the 255 is about the largest practical size..but congrats on the 265 test!
Old 09-23-2007 | 10:31 PM
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THANK YOU!!!! Man I have heard so much BS here. And its always from these people who haven't even done it. Well don't get me started on that. But I just wanted to thank you. And did I THANK YOU yet?

Both of you!!


Can you still see the pic's ok? I cant see them now.....
Old 09-23-2007 | 11:23 PM
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Looks great

Plus, looks like I was wrong about the edge pulling up too much in the rear. From your pic below (which I annotate with the red arrow), your contact patch looks identical to my 255's.


Old 09-23-2007 | 11:31 PM
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Tell ya what..... This is one great tire! Its sssoooo quite. And grab the road. I haven't even started to test that yet. It is like a new car. But better......
Old 09-23-2007 | 11:43 PM
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Spiritman,

May I have your permission to post your pictures in my 255 thread (link provided below) ? I want to have this in that thread to show that even the 265 tires fit fine on an 8.0 inch rim. THANKS

Why you should get 255/40-17 tires for your OEM rims !!! (click here)
Old 09-25-2007 | 08:11 PM
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Thanks for actually putting these tires on, good job. You proved a point. I'm glad you're happy with the tires. I appreciate a quiet tire! 265/35/18 is almost identical to total stock diameter(235/45/17). The differences are that 265 is 29.97mm(1.18inch) wider than stock and of course, smaller sidewall. Maintaining stock diameter,without getting too wide with the tire, is key to "no rubbing".
Old 09-25-2007 | 09:21 PM
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how the hell do you guys get so many miles out of your tires? i have a 1.2 and 1.3 drop and im on some falk. and i barely got like 15k out of them ....
Old 09-25-2007 | 09:22 PM
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i also use to have some toyos and those are some horrible tires, but thats just in my opinion ...
Old 09-25-2007 | 11:50 PM
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^^ Although, there are exceptions, the saying, "You get what you pay for," is uslually true.

I understand paying $200 bucks a tire at 20 can be a SERIOUS hardship. But, if you spend $120 a tire and have to change 'em twice as often .... .

BTW - When we got our 2G TL-S, I about shit when I found out OEM replacement tires were $150+ each. But, I bent over and took it like a man ( ) : crying for a week.
Old 09-25-2007 | 11:56 PM
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im glad the idiots left and the people with brains are posting now...mods is their any kinda idiot/ignorant filter we can put on these threads? hahah
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Could you get a pic of the side of the car? No angled shots.
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Spiritman,

May I have your permission to post your pictures in my 255 thread (link provided below) ? I want to have this in that thread to show that even the 265 tires fit fine on an 8.0 inch rim. THANKS

Why you should get 255/40-17 tires for your OEM rims !!! (click here)
Inaccurate I pm-ed ya... Sure you can post your pics here......
Old 09-26-2007 | 10:33 AM
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Inaccurate I pm-ed ya... Sure you can post your pics here......
Hi Spirit
This calls for another get together. I know ho you feel with new rubbers. I love the way my G-Force ride. Soon it will be time to change shoes for the winter. Have you heard from any of the guys from our last meet. I have to talk to 05TLRIDER to set up a get together before winter. PM me.
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Originally Posted by shehmir9
how the hell do you guys get so many miles out of your tires? i have a 1.2 and 1.3 drop and im on some falk. and i barely got like 15k out of them ....
x2.... and I only have 1/2" drop and I've yet to see 15k at the wear bars. Are you Goodyear guys really getting 25k or is there a little exageration going on. I'm spending $289 a copy on the Pilot Sports and they are only good for one season March-December. At that point I acutlully look forward to installing my winter tires as the last couple of months on any of my summer tire choices (Falken, Michelin, & Dunlop) are really loud and I'm ready for 16 weeks of little road noise.
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
^ whats all the math about, I finished my math freshman year in college, in other news if they fit, handle better, feel more comfortable, who cares how wide they are for the rim, whats the worst that can happen uneven tire wear that wont show up for another 25k miles

YEAH!

Math and logic have no place in message forum discussions!

Looks pretty bad tho...
Old 09-28-2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
^ whats all the math about, I finished my math freshman year in college, in other news if they fit, handle better, feel more comfortable, who cares how wide they are for the rim, whats the worst that can happen uneven tire wear that wont show up for another 25k miles
Do you thing it is serious and responsible to be so decisive about things you don’t really know? Too wide tire for a rim is bending the way it is not designed for 800 times per mile, round and round, 20 million times in its life. That generates extra heat, extensive local tensions and could cause tread separation from the sidewall, unfortunately at high speed. It becomes worst with the low profile tires. I just wonder, in that case, would you rather represent Tire Company or young guy’s family in the court?
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Yikes! I can't believe the shop even let you leave with them like that. I dont see the point in trying to shove the fattest tire possible on the thinest rim possible. What are you trying to accomplish here?

Your really giving up the performace of the tires by not using the proper width and putting yourself and other people on the road at risk. Do it right or don't do it at all...
Old 09-29-2007 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by limited
Yikes! I can't believe the shop even let you leave with them like that. I don't see the point in trying to shove the fattest tire possible on the thinest rim possible. What are you trying to accomplish here?

Your really giving up the performace of the tires by not using the proper width and putting yourself and other people on the road at risk. Do it right or don't do it at all...
Cry me a river!! OK, is all the crying done now?

What are you talking about. Have you ever done this? Then don't tell me someone who has. Nuff said.... Quit your cryen...... It works.

PS: what are you talking about giving up performance? Again have you ever driven a car set up like this??????
Then stop the guess work. And let me be me. I see or feel no loss of performance. In fact it feels ssooo much better!!

So unless you have done this = SHUT UP!!!
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I bet you for going with this setup you won't ever get a titty, imo thats def worth it



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