Tein SS or Megans??
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I slightly differ in opinion on South Florida roads and that is probably because I've only occassionally driven in NY or anywhere with REALLY shitty roads. Florida has em too...trust me, with all the contsruction and the breakdown of aggregate because of the hot climate, railroad tracks etc....the really f**ked up roads may be more few and far between, but I still think that suspension is brutal (the megans or ksport etc).
The dual tube design I've heard is better and the preload on the spring being separate is supposed to be good but I can tell you that it made things more complicated for me when making adjustments. The teins are much more straightforward, are better built, have EDFC, require less turns of the locking rings to make adjustments and are only a couple hundred more than the other brands.
Again, this is based on my own experience...and I've been told that the Megans were shit for the RSX, so maybe that is the problem. I ended up having to get out a metal grinder and cut relief cuts to get the assembly to move after it seized up because i hadn't made and adjustment in a year. I thought that was totally bogus. The Megans also felt hard on every setting...one was just rock hard, and the softest was stone hard (lol).
This is 5 years later so build quality might be better...but after dealing with the TEINS' ride and ease of adjustability. I wouldn't ever look back...
Honestly, if you told me Megans were 400 bucks...and Tein was 1200...then YEAH, even I can't pass up that much of a savings to ultimately get the lowered look...but at 900ish for Megan and 1140 for SS shipped (seller on ebay I've dealt with a bunch). It's not enough to sway me.
The dual tube design I've heard is better and the preload on the spring being separate is supposed to be good but I can tell you that it made things more complicated for me when making adjustments. The teins are much more straightforward, are better built, have EDFC, require less turns of the locking rings to make adjustments and are only a couple hundred more than the other brands.
Again, this is based on my own experience...and I've been told that the Megans were shit for the RSX, so maybe that is the problem. I ended up having to get out a metal grinder and cut relief cuts to get the assembly to move after it seized up because i hadn't made and adjustment in a year. I thought that was totally bogus. The Megans also felt hard on every setting...one was just rock hard, and the softest was stone hard (lol).
This is 5 years later so build quality might be better...but after dealing with the TEINS' ride and ease of adjustability. I wouldn't ever look back...
Honestly, if you told me Megans were 400 bucks...and Tein was 1200...then YEAH, even I can't pass up that much of a savings to ultimately get the lowered look...but at 900ish for Megan and 1140 for SS shipped (seller on ebay I've dealt with a bunch). It's not enough to sway me.
Last edited by rockstar143; 12-05-2010 at 12:02 PM.
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You guys make it seem like TEIN doesn't even lower the car. And no, although I appreciate how cool a car looks super low, I think there comes an age, AND a point, where it is no longer practical and the balance between looking cool and being fun/comfy to drive is no longer in check. Cringing every time I see a bump coming up fast or hearing the bottom scrape isn't fun to me anymore.
J.
zero finger gap, to me, is as low as I NEED to go.
J.
zero finger gap, to me, is as low as I NEED to go.
#48
You guys make it seem like TEIN doesn't even lower the car. And no, although I appreciate how cool a car looks super low, I think there comes an age, AND a point, where it is no longer practical and the balance between looking cool and being fun/comfy to drive is no longer in check. Cringing every time I see a bump coming up fast or hearing the bottom scrape isn't fun to me anymore.
#49
it LOOKS cool to be slammed.... but definitely not practical for everyday driving (for me at least).. but I guess it depends on ppl's traveling conditions in their daily route and how much of their bumper they're willing to sacrifice hahaha
#50
You guys make it seem like TEIN doesn't even lower the car. And no, although I appreciate how cool a car looks super low, I think there comes an age, AND a point, where it is no longer practical and the balance between looking cool and being fun/comfy to drive is no longer in check. Cringing every time I see a bump coming up fast or hearing the bottom scrape isn't fun to me anymore.
J.
zero finger gap, to me, is as low as I NEED to go.
J.
zero finger gap, to me, is as low as I NEED to go.
i feel u on that point,its all personal preference, in my eyes im diggin the whole VIP scene, like how VipTL is going for. with age comes with more ball not driving comfortably or any other thing. my TL is slammed n i still ride as smooth as stock. but hey, i just like it better, like i said its all preference u know... haha either way everyone car looks clean in the end!
#53
We have great prices but we pour a LOT of money into this forum every month. I don't remember a specific conversation about the HT-Specs being overpriced or for a price match on the Megans (we sell everything mentioned here, you know). Anyway, don't make it my fault that you didn't want to spend a little more on something that might well have been a better product. If you bought from anyone besides an Acurazine vendor, I'll be a little disappointed.
Also, the HT-Specs go every bit as unreasonably low as the Megans do.
#54
Twins? Like Twin Tube shocks? What does that have to do with anything?
We have great prices but we pour a LOT of money into this forum every month. I don't remember a specific conversation about the HT-Specs being overpriced or for a price match on the Megans (we sell everything mentioned here, you know). Anyway, don't make it my fault that you didn't want to spend a little more on something that might well have been a better product. If you bought from anyone besides an Acurazine vendor, I'll be a little disappointed.
Also, the HT-Specs go every bit as unreasonably low as the Megans do.
We have great prices but we pour a LOT of money into this forum every month. I don't remember a specific conversation about the HT-Specs being overpriced or for a price match on the Megans (we sell everything mentioned here, you know). Anyway, don't make it my fault that you didn't want to spend a little more on something that might well have been a better product. If you bought from anyone besides an Acurazine vendor, I'll be a little disappointed.
Also, the HT-Specs go every bit as unreasonably low as the Megans do.
i never blamed or am blaming u about me not being able to get your suspension. n pls dont bag on megans saying your suspension is better or might be better, its all contending even though ur suspension looks just like megans but different color and probably different spring rates and maybe valved better iono.
i got my megans for 650! what would you do if the HT-Spec werent your product? yea im pretty sure u would of bought the megans
owe and yes i did get my suspension from a non-acurazine vendor because believe it or not some shops give way better discounts than most of the vendors on AZ. sorry to say but we know its true.
but like i said my bad im not bagging on ur suspension and i meant tein not twins
#55
Finally got time to post some pics...
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-photograph-gallery-96/some-quick-shots-my-kbp-tl-s-800661/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-photograph-gallery-96/some-quick-shots-my-kbp-tl-s-800661/
#56
Matt, well, I guess I would not say thet HT-Spec are "better" but I imagine they might be tuned a little better...that was the point really. They are not the same thing for sure.
For under $600 you could get the HT-Spec Type-1 non-adjustable. True you might have adjustment on the Megans...but again, I don't think you want to assume that it is just as good or better than what the HT-Specs or Teins are. I don't want to get into a debate about it really, because the Megans do serve a purpose; they fill a need in the market for a cheap coilover kit. Folks like you gravitate that way.
I don't expect to sell a kit to everyone out there, I just like to be cosidered and I do appriciate you having looked at us before buying! I just hope you realize that for the little community here, Excelerate and Heeltoe are known to give great parts advice and service. You don't need to buy from us, but you don't get the same thing everywhere you go in terms of service. Again, maybe you don't care because you are all about the low price, but it is a general truth.
When it comes to something a little more difficult to decide on, consider buying from a place that will not sell you just any old cheap part out there, in case it comes up. Lots of members buy stuff other than Megans because the price is frankly too cheap. Most AZ drivers want a deal, but not to the extent they will get cheap parts for them. I fall into that category as well...if faced with a $650 kit, a $900 kit, and a $1100 kit, I, and many others, will look at the features and reviews to choose the one they want, then go for the one that seems like it will offer the most value. And it rarely means people go for the cheapest option.
For under $600 you could get the HT-Spec Type-1 non-adjustable. True you might have adjustment on the Megans...but again, I don't think you want to assume that it is just as good or better than what the HT-Specs or Teins are. I don't want to get into a debate about it really, because the Megans do serve a purpose; they fill a need in the market for a cheap coilover kit. Folks like you gravitate that way.
I don't expect to sell a kit to everyone out there, I just like to be cosidered and I do appriciate you having looked at us before buying! I just hope you realize that for the little community here, Excelerate and Heeltoe are known to give great parts advice and service. You don't need to buy from us, but you don't get the same thing everywhere you go in terms of service. Again, maybe you don't care because you are all about the low price, but it is a general truth.
When it comes to something a little more difficult to decide on, consider buying from a place that will not sell you just any old cheap part out there, in case it comes up. Lots of members buy stuff other than Megans because the price is frankly too cheap. Most AZ drivers want a deal, but not to the extent they will get cheap parts for them. I fall into that category as well...if faced with a $650 kit, a $900 kit, and a $1100 kit, I, and many others, will look at the features and reviews to choose the one they want, then go for the one that seems like it will offer the most value. And it rarely means people go for the cheapest option.
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^^^huh?
He's saying it's on a risk/vs reward...
even if megans are the best deal around, they won't get the most purchases because they are the cheapest. When I was younger all I cared about was saving a buck because that other $500 could have gone to so many more things...when you get older, you have more expendable income and you start thinking, I'm gonna do it right, I'm gonna do it once and if it seems too good (or cheap) to be true, it probably is.
Again, Megan, I'm sure is a great product. But for someone like me, that doesn't want my frame on the ground, and has had a REALLY harsh ride on megans before...it was worth EVERY penny to get the Tein SS's and be able to adjust and have a super comfy ride.
That said, I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that I too went for the "bargain" on the expensive ones and didn't support the vendors here although Markus didn't hate one bit, he was super helpful and gave me advice on camber/toe adjustment etc. Come to think of it, now that I've been on the site as long as I have, I kinda wish I had
J.
He's saying it's on a risk/vs reward...
even if megans are the best deal around, they won't get the most purchases because they are the cheapest. When I was younger all I cared about was saving a buck because that other $500 could have gone to so many more things...when you get older, you have more expendable income and you start thinking, I'm gonna do it right, I'm gonna do it once and if it seems too good (or cheap) to be true, it probably is.
Again, Megan, I'm sure is a great product. But for someone like me, that doesn't want my frame on the ground, and has had a REALLY harsh ride on megans before...it was worth EVERY penny to get the Tein SS's and be able to adjust and have a super comfy ride.
That said, I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that I too went for the "bargain" on the expensive ones and didn't support the vendors here although Markus didn't hate one bit, he was super helpful and gave me advice on camber/toe adjustment etc. Come to think of it, now that I've been on the site as long as I have, I kinda wish I had
J.
#59
Teins, i gotta say prolly are the smoothest ride, alot of my UA6 buddies ride on it, but im just not feeling the non-factory spring preload like megan and ht spec have.
megans arent the cheapest around i just found a deal for that one instance. they are posted online for 900 just like ht-specs and teins are on some sits.
yes megans feel a little stiff, but thats what people like me are looking for when they wanna slam as low as me.
ive reasearched megans for years contemplating if i should get it for my TL and i didnt see anything wrong with them for what im tryna do. im slammed to the ground and no lie i barely tell the differnce, only when i hit big bumps!!
marcus knows his stuff!
in my observations i think
TEINS-Best Comfort
Megans and HT-Spec- for slammed people ahhaha
megans arent the cheapest around i just found a deal for that one instance. they are posted online for 900 just like ht-specs and teins are on some sits.
yes megans feel a little stiff, but thats what people like me are looking for when they wanna slam as low as me.
ive reasearched megans for years contemplating if i should get it for my TL and i didnt see anything wrong with them for what im tryna do. im slammed to the ground and no lie i barely tell the differnce, only when i hit big bumps!!
marcus knows his stuff!
in my observations i think
TEINS-Best Comfort
Megans and HT-Spec- for slammed people ahhaha
#60
I slightly differ in opinion on South Florida roads and that is probably because I've only occassionally driven in NY or anywhere with REALLY shitty roads. Florida has em too...trust me, with all the contsruction and the breakdown of aggregate because of the hot climate, railroad tracks etc....the really f**ked up roads may be more few and far between, but I still think that suspension is brutal (the megans or ksport etc).
The dual tube design I've heard is better and the preload on the spring being separate is supposed to be good but I can tell you that it made things more complicated for me when making adjustments. The teins are much more straightforward, are better built, have EDFC, require less turns of the locking rings to make adjustments and are only a couple hundred more than the other brands.
Again, this is based on my own experience...and I've been told that the Megans were shit for the RSX, so maybe that is the problem. I ended up having to get out a metal grinder and cut relief cuts to get the assembly to move after it seized up because i hadn't made and adjustment in a year. I thought that was totally bogus. The Megans also felt hard on every setting...one was just rock hard, and the softest was stone hard (lol).
This is 5 years later so build quality might be better...but after dealing with the TEINS' ride and ease of adjustability. I wouldn't ever look back...
Honestly, if you told me Megans were 400 bucks...and Tein was 1200...then YEAH, even I can't pass up that much of a savings to ultimately get the lowered look...but at 900ish for Megan and 1140 for SS shipped (seller on ebay I've dealt with a bunch). It's not enough to sway me.
The dual tube design I've heard is better and the preload on the spring being separate is supposed to be good but I can tell you that it made things more complicated for me when making adjustments. The teins are much more straightforward, are better built, have EDFC, require less turns of the locking rings to make adjustments and are only a couple hundred more than the other brands.
Again, this is based on my own experience...and I've been told that the Megans were shit for the RSX, so maybe that is the problem. I ended up having to get out a metal grinder and cut relief cuts to get the assembly to move after it seized up because i hadn't made and adjustment in a year. I thought that was totally bogus. The Megans also felt hard on every setting...one was just rock hard, and the softest was stone hard (lol).
This is 5 years later so build quality might be better...but after dealing with the TEINS' ride and ease of adjustability. I wouldn't ever look back...
Honestly, if you told me Megans were 400 bucks...and Tein was 1200...then YEAH, even I can't pass up that much of a savings to ultimately get the lowered look...but at 900ish for Megan and 1140 for SS shipped (seller on ebay I've dealt with a bunch). It's not enough to sway me.
What I'm saying is the TEINS are hands down a better product but that quality will be really apparent on the roads you subject your ride to. I know if I lived in an area with smooth roads.. I'd buy the MEGANS.. but maybe if I had a bad experience like you did.. I'd prolly be tainted too. I live in NYC .. so the decision was a no brainer for me.
Boils down to this: If you can afford the TEINS SS then get it, but if you want to be economical about it, then make your decision based on the roads you drive on. But don't think that the MEGANS are just as good as the TEINS if you only subject it to good roads... the test should be based on subjecting the suspensions to the extremes and then you'll clearly see who makes the superior product.
Also for those of you who think TEINS can't go low enough.... I'll post a pic later on tonight from my other computer and you guys can judge.
Last edited by Elegant TYPE S; 12-07-2010 at 08:18 PM.
#61
well this is how my car sits daily driven, and if i were to give it a quick review, it rides a little stiffer than stock, but it feels way more sporty!!
so this is what i mean by low enough (slammed)
#70
How come I never see Basics in the discussion? I know they don't have the dampening adjustability like the SS's but other than that they're the same correct? I had them on my Accord and they dropped it enough to look aggressive and gave a very comfortable ride. I don't autocross or do anything that I would think I need dampening adjustment and I assume most others dont either so just wondering why those dont come up besides the obvious fact that the thread is titled Tein SS's vs Megans.
#71
But dropped it over 2inches. At least drop it 1.5 to 2inches to get your $$$ worth. At first i was dropped 1.5 and went another inch. Ride feels the same IMO
#72
The Basics don't get as much press because they don't sell as well. We sell the SS as being for the more particular driver...and I guess more people are particular about the ride so they want the ability to adjust it.
#73
i just bought my set of megas, if u plan on slamming really low its your best bet because u need to ride firm to avoid rubbing
as for the teins, best ride youll get but wont go low, and it doesnt have spring pre load option like HT and Megan have.
HT Spec does sound like the best of both worlds, but 900 is too rich for my blood, talk to the right people and u can get a set of megans for 785!!!
as for the teins, best ride youll get but wont go low, and it doesnt have spring pre load option like HT and Megan have.
HT Spec does sound like the best of both worlds, but 900 is too rich for my blood, talk to the right people and u can get a set of megans for 785!!!
#74
czech this link out for my ideas on suspension comparos:
https://acurazine.com/forums/heeltoe-automotive-365/tein-ht-spec-megan-h-r-what-coilovers-should-you-get-801396/
https://acurazine.com/forums/heeltoe-automotive-365/tein-ht-spec-megan-h-r-what-coilovers-should-you-get-801396/
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