I've have read many many threads regarding the Tein SS abilities and the cool gadget EDFC. However, I have a few questions:
Is the EDFC is only adaptabls to the Tein SS and not the basics?
Tein Basics and Tein SS uses the same springs, just different dampers?
If i am not planning to get the EDFC, would tein Basics be the way to go?

Thanks!

 

YOu could only use EDFC with the SS's (I pretty sure). THe SS's have adjustable damping whereas the Basic's are just kinda stuck on one setting. If you don't plan to get the EDFC you may still have use of the SS's if you're planning to adjust the damping manually.

 

Basics and SS's both have the ability to adjust the ride height.... but only the SS's allow you to adjust the dampers... they are adjustable either manually by hand or electronically with the EDFC... you can still get the SS's without the EDFC but if you wanted to adjust the rears, you would have to take the back seats out, as it is the only way to access the strut to make adjustments... I have never felt basics in action, but from what i have read the ride is a little more harsh.. I have the SS's and EDFC and i don't regret it one bit.

 

if u have the money for the ss get em

 

^^ I agree. If you have $$ get the SS. I have the SS and its perfect for my needs. IMO the EDFC isnt necessary. The EDFC requires you to remove the strut tower bar or cut into it. The tower bar loses it functional purpose if u do either.

 

i have the Tien SS and i love it but i need to get a camber kit dose any out there have one for a 04 TL?

 

^^ I have front and rear Ingalls cambers. But camber kits aren't necessary. If you look in the TL owner's manual, the stock ride height already has negative camber. A good alignment shop should fix any alignment issues.

 

The Doctor is right. The Basics are a bit harsh, but I have nothing to compare them to other than my old Civic that was slammed on Neuspeed Race. It doesn't really bother me.

 

I have the Ingalls rear camber but the fronts don't need it due to the toe-in has a lot of room for adjustment. I have the Tein SS in my 04 TL with edfc and I love it.

 

i am not sure exactly how low my car is compared to the stock but it is pretty low.. as a reference, a three finger gap for stock and a barely 1 finger gap after the SS's. I do not have a camber kit, nor do i see any signs of wear....

 

SPC or Ingall's. PM me for prices.

 

THe basics rides harsher than the SS on the stiffest setting????

 

im bout to buy my rims, Zenetti Dueces 20x8.5 with 235/35/20 tires, can i still use the tien ss springs and struts without rubbing> should i go with a size 30 tire so it will still work?

 

So is it a must to get the camber kits? How much do they usually cost?

 

See sig for what my suspension spec's I definitely need a camber kit...already seeing uneven wear after 3K miles. Dropped to barely one finger. Quoted around $400 for camber kit plus $200 install w/ alignment.

Wheels are 19X8.5 w/ 42mm offest

 

Come on guys more input please. I going to purchase Tein coilovers for sure but i'm not sure which to get. I have enough for either the SS or Basics but is SS worth it if you dont have EDFC, which mean you pretty much just adjust them once when you install them. How stiff is the Basics compared to the SS on a certain setting?

 

be a man, do the right thing...buy Tein SS...don't bitch out.

 

get the SSs you won't be disapointed... even if you didn't want to get the EDFC right away you could always add it later...

 

How often do you guys with the SS, change the settings if you dont have EDFC?

 

Tein SS is the way to go. Think about this, you can adjust the stiffness to exact the way you like, be it just for one day mountain/spirit driving or comfort of everyday drive. Don't know how the 3rd gen backseat and where the damper adjustment located exactly, but in 2nd gen, if you don't have EDFC, you can adjust very easily without removing the back seat. What you need is to punch/drill a very small hole on the back seat rest directly above the damper adjustment knob. You only need a hole small just enough to put the hex key in to adjust. When you want to adjust the dampler, just put the hex key in pre-drill hole and turn either clockwise (more stiff)or counterclockwise (less stiff).

 

That's a lot of money there...if i drop it less than u did, will i still need a camber kit?

 

I purchase my SS's through Mach II in San Francisco. I had the same questions. I was told the Basics are in the middle of the range of the SS's as far as stiffness. Meaning, you can get a smoother ride from the SS's than the Basics...if that is what you are after. That is what sold me on the SS's...I was looking for aggressive look with as smooth of a ride as possible. I am extremely happy with the set-up. I'm running the SS's two clicks from softest in the rear and four clicks from softest in the front. Added the Comptech RSB for handling...it works great!! It isn't that difficult to adjust if I really needed to...but, I am happy with how they are.

 

I am taking it back to the shop to have it raised a little and then have them recheck the camber specs. A lot of people have told me that there would't be a rubbing issue and that I wouldn't need a camber kit....they were wrong. If you can hang to the end of the week, I'll let you know the true specs and pics.

 

Will the Tein SS have the floatiness of the stock suspension at soft setting?

 

That would be great, thanks a lot!

 

What wheels and tires are you running? With stock wheels and tires you should not be rubbing, unless it is on the floor.

Marcus

 

I'm running RJ Inspires 19X8.5 w/ +42 offset. Tires are 245/35/19's lowered to a 1/2 of a finger gap at all four corners. I've been told since that I should have gone with 235's...yet, when buying the rims I was told 245's would give me a smoother ride...so, lots to consider.

 

Well, the problem is the wheels and tires really, incombination with lowering. Honeslty, the potential to rub is already there without the car lowered at all, and when you lower the car you just increase the amount of rubbing you actually get. But in the end, the wheels and tires are the true cause of the, not the drop.