Suspension - TL 6MT vs. TL-S 6MT

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Old 04-14-2007, 04:06 PM
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Suspension - TL 6MT vs. TL-S 6MT

ATTENTION: this is strictly for 3rd gen 6MT cars, not the AT version


According to the Acura TL catalog the suspension parts used are the same type.

I know that the 6MT has factory tuned stiffer suspension setup and also equipped with larger sway bar in the rear compare to the AT version. I know it does the same with the TL-S AT and the TL-S MT.


My ultimate question is: Does the TL 6MT have the same suspension setup as the TL-S 6MT? Please try to provide accurate information rather than opinions. I need to know the fact on this. I appreciate your help.... meow meow
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If you're talking about the 07, I believe the TL-S has a stiffer suspension compared to the TL. Also I don't think they make 07 TL MT, not sure.
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rubaduckie, I'm talking about the 6MT cars. The regular TL 6MT has stiffer suspension setup than the TL AT cars. I would like to know if the 6MT has the same suspension tuning and the spec on the sway bar as the TL-S 6MT.

And yes, the MT version does not exist in the '07 TL model. I was talking about the 06 model on the MT vs. the 07 TL-S MT. Sorry for the confusion.
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Rather than me doing a lot of checking and maybe not giving you what you need, here's the links to the 2006MT and the 2007 Type S and you can check it all out.

I'll give you a hint, though. The rear sway bar is the same part number for both.

Let us know what you find out.

2006 6MT

2007 Type-S
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Ron A, my car isn't broke. I don't need any replacement parts for my gaskets or air filter... nah j/k Thanks for try to help me anyway.

The '07 TL/TL-S catalog I'm reading has some good info on the suspension and stablizer settings for both front and rear. Dang I wish I had the '06 Catalog for the TL 6MT. arggg....

I know that even if the parts are the same the tuning may also be different. I'm gonna go find the data for '06 catalog.... I will be on request for the search. I be back!~
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Yo Kitty-Cat, your car is a lease right? You lookin' for this to help make up your mind on the new one? In a couple of years, this may all drastically change anyway. Know what I mean? But still, for now, a call to service may give ya the 411 you need sugar...
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No, darksome1, it has nothing to do what car I want to buy next.

I want to know what my car is equipped with as far as the part and setting in the suspension goes compare to the '07 TL-S 6MT. There is no relation as to deciding what car I'm planning to purchase next.
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I'm not sure about the rates of the suspension but i remember that the 07 TypeS have solid front and rear sway bars. But the 04-06 6MT have hollow ones.
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Originally Posted by whatjones911
I'm not sure about the rates of the suspension but i remember that the 07 TypeS have solid front and rear sway bars. But the 04-06 6MT have hollow ones.
If you don't mind me asking where did you hear that... Do you have a link or some source? I would appreciate it if you could post it.. Hey, thanks a lot!!
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Originally Posted by meowCat
If you don't mind me asking where did you hear that... Do you have a link or some source? I would appreciate it if you could post it.. Hey, thanks a lot!!
It was from Acura's own site. But i can't be 100% sure about the 04-06 6MT sway bars being hollow because their info isn't on the site anymore. The 07 TypeS sway bars are specifically stated being solid on the site.
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Originally Posted by whatjones911
It was from Acura's own site. But i can't be 100% sure about the 04-06 6MT sway bars being hollow because their info isn't on the site anymore. The 07 TypeS sway bars are specifically stated being solid on the site.
Read here for some '06 info and here for some '07 info. It's a start, anyway.
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The suspensions are completely different by part number...

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2006 6MT:
51601-SEP-A16 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., R. FRONT.
51602-SEP-A16 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., L. FRONT.
(2) 52610-SEP-A14 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., REAR

It also uses softer upper strut bushings:
(8) 51631-SV7-004 RUBBER, FR. FORK MOUNTING

Swaybars:
Rear (20mm) 52300-SEP-A11 SPRING, RR. STABILIZER
Front (27.2 Hollow) 51300-SEP-A01 SPRING, FR. STABILIZER

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2007 TL-S 6MT:
51601-SEP-A19 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., R. FRONT
51602-SEP-A19 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., L. FRONT.
(2) 52610-SEP-A17 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., REAR.

Stiffer upper bushing:
(8) 51631-SEP-A01 RUBBER, FR. SHOCK ABSORBER MOUNTING

Swaybars:
Rear (20mm) 52300-SEP-A11 SPRING, RR. STABILIZER
Front (27.2 SOLID) 51300-SEP-A21 SPRING, FR. STABILIZER

__________________________________________________ _______________

As you can see by the part number differences, the ONLY part that's the same between the 2 is rear swaybar. The TL-S is reported to have a notably stiffer suspension than the 2006, and the part numbers seem to reflect that.
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
The suspensions are completely different by part number...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2006 6MT:
51601-SEP-A16 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., R. FRONT.
51602-SEP-A16 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., L. FRONT.
(2) 52610-SEP-A14 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., REAR

It also uses softer upper strut bushings:
(8) 51631-SV7-004 RUBBER, FR. FORK MOUNTING

Swaybars:
Rear (20mm) 52300-SEP-A11 SPRING, RR. STABILIZER
Front (27.2 Hollow) 51300-SEP-A01 SPRING, FR. STABILIZER


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2007 TL-S 6MT:
51601-SEP-A19 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., R. FRONT
51602-SEP-A19 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., L. FRONT.
(2) 52610-SEP-A17 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY., REAR.

Stiffer upper bushing:
(8) 51631-SEP-A01 RUBBER, FR. SHOCK ABSORBER MOUNTING

Swaybars:
Rear (20mm) 52300-SEP-A11 SPRING, RR. STABILIZER
Front (27.2 SOLID) 51300-SEP-A21 SPRING, FR. STABILIZER


__________________________________________________ _______________

As you can see by the part number differences, the ONLY part that's the same between the 2 is rear swaybar. The TL-S is reported to have a notably stiffer suspension than the 2006, and the part numbers seem to reflect that.
First of all, the information posted by Kennedy and ChuckDu was very helpful to me.

I have bolded, color texted, and underlined the words that are important and those are exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.


It is a fact that the '06 MT has stiffer suspension setup than the '06 AT version.

I am happy to see that the '06 MT uses the same Sway bar and its setting measurements.

I see the difference noted "hollow" and "solid" on the stablizer bar. '06 6MT and '07 TL-S 6MT respectively.

Good to know that the shock absorbers are different part too.


Based on what I have read I think it's safe to conclude the following:

From best to worst, in terms of ride stiffness/responsiveness in overall handling:

1) '07 TL-S 6MT
2) '06 TL 6MT
3) '07 TL-S AT
4) '06 TL AT


Anybody has objection?



btw, thank you for such powerful information..
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would it be at all beneficial to upgrade to the solid front stabilizer vs the hollow on my 05? Size is the same, so would it really make any difference?
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Originally Posted by meowCat
First of all, the information posted by Kennedy and ChuckDu was very helpful to me.

I have bolded, color texted, and underlined the words that are important and those are exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.


It is a fact that the '06 MT has stiffer suspension setup than the '06 AT version.

I am happy to see that the '06 MT uses the same Sway bar and its setting measurements.

I see the difference noted "hollow" and "solid" on the stablizer bar. '06 6MT and '07 TL-S 6MT respectively.

Good to know that the shock absorbers are different part too.


Based on what I have read I think it's safe to conclude the following:

From best to worst, in terms of ride stiffness/responsiveness in overall handling:

1) '07 TL-S 6MT
2) '06 TL 6MT
3) '07 TL-S AT
4) '06 TL AT


Anybody has objection?



btw, thank you for such powerful information..
The part numbers are certainly different, but how do you know the TL-S 6MT are actually stiffer than a base MT?
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