Stretched tires
09-18-2011, 01:35 PM
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Stretched tires
Hi I need help with what tire size I should get for my rims. The specs are 19x9.5 +35 all around . In order for them to fit with out rubbing I would need stretched tires.
Would 235/35/19 work?
Or would I need 225/35/19? Thanks for any help
Would 235/35/19 work?
Or would I need 225/35/19? Thanks for any help
09-18-2011, 02:58 PM
#5
^A guy on here had stretched tires on his white TL, it completely sperated off the rim. Luckily he was cruising in his neighborhood not on the freeway. Tires are sized for specific reasons. They aren't designed to be "stretched".
Its like wearing a size 8 shoe when you wear a 10 or an 11.
Maybe I'm just getting old, but I dont think its very smart.
FROM HONDA-TECH.
Con: This is UNSAFE and can cause tire failure (either a blowout, or the tire popping the bead on the rim). Tire manufacturers have engineers who determine which wheel widths each tire size and model can be mounted on safely. They publish these specs for the approved range of rim widths, and you can find them on the websites for the tire manufacturers as well as for tire retailers like the Tire Rack. When you mount tires on wheels that are wider than approved by the tire manufacturer, stress and heat can build up in the tire sidewall, which can lead to the failure of the tire. BAD IDEA. DON'T DO IT.
(There is NO performance benefit, and while looks are a matter of personal opinion, anyone knowledgeable about tires will probably say that it looks stupid, as well as being a safety issue.)
Because we don't approve of posting of advice that can result in unsafe driving conditions, this topic is being locked.
Its like wearing a size 8 shoe when you wear a 10 or an 11.
Maybe I'm just getting old, but I dont think its very smart.
FROM HONDA-TECH.
Con: This is UNSAFE and can cause tire failure (either a blowout, or the tire popping the bead on the rim). Tire manufacturers have engineers who determine which wheel widths each tire size and model can be mounted on safely. They publish these specs for the approved range of rim widths, and you can find them on the websites for the tire manufacturers as well as for tire retailers like the Tire Rack. When you mount tires on wheels that are wider than approved by the tire manufacturer, stress and heat can build up in the tire sidewall, which can lead to the failure of the tire. BAD IDEA. DON'T DO IT.
(There is NO performance benefit, and while looks are a matter of personal opinion, anyone knowledgeable about tires will probably say that it looks stupid, as well as being a safety issue.)
Because we don't approve of posting of advice that can result in unsafe driving conditions, this topic is being locked.
09-18-2011, 03:35 PM
#6
if your TL is a daily driver, i would not stretch your tires.
if your TL is a show car, and all you do with it is take it to car shows to show it off AND THATS IT, than having stretched tires is ok.
its dangerous, and has no benefits whatsoever besides the fact that it "looks sick" or "cool". but you'll think twice about that when your tire blows and your stuck on the side of the road or highway waiting for assistance.
try 19x8.5
or atleast do some serious research into tire stretching before you actually do it.
it was kinda shocking to see you ask "why is it dangerous?". i'm not making fun of you for asking, i just thought that you would have already knew. BUT its a good thing that you asked, cause we don't want members on here wrecking or damaging their cars due to lack of knowledge.
tires and wheels are expensive to replace, but your tires and wheels aren't the only thing that is in danger when your driving around on stretched tires
if your TL is a show car, and all you do with it is take it to car shows to show it off AND THATS IT, than having stretched tires is ok.
its dangerous, and has no benefits whatsoever besides the fact that it "looks sick" or "cool". but you'll think twice about that when your tire blows and your stuck on the side of the road or highway waiting for assistance.
try 19x8.5
or atleast do some serious research into tire stretching before you actually do it.
it was kinda shocking to see you ask "why is it dangerous?". i'm not making fun of you for asking, i just thought that you would have already knew. BUT its a good thing that you asked, cause we don't want members on here wrecking or damaging their cars due to lack of knowledge.
tires and wheels are expensive to replace, but your tires and wheels aren't the only thing that is in danger when your driving around on stretched tires
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huystAr (09-27-2011)
09-18-2011, 03:56 PM
#7
Burning Brakes
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Thanks for the input guys. I'll try different ways of fitting these rims with out stretching my tires. I didn't know it was that serious since I see so many ppl doing it.
Is 235/35/19 a good enough size or should I go with 245?
Is 235/35/19 a good enough size or should I go with 245?
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09-18-2011, 09:48 PM
#10
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235/35/19 ftw!
09-19-2011, 07:05 PM
#12
OP tire stretching isn't bad 
. It's only bad when you over do it, a slight-mild stretch won't hurt at all lol. I'm going to be doing: 215/35/19 front and 245/35/19 rear when I pick up my new set up in: 19x8.5+30 front/19x10+38 rear.
. It's only bad when you over do it, a slight-mild stretch won't hurt at all lol. I'm going to be doing: 215/35/19 front and 245/35/19 rear when I pick up my new set up in: 19x8.5+30 front/19x10+38 rear.
09-20-2011, 01:13 AM
#13
Drifting
^ you might wana do a 225 up front give you a lil more footprint of the tire... im runing 215 up front and the tires are not rated to hold much weight and i think thats y my tires keep getting bubbles in the sidewalls
09-20-2011, 01:24 AM
#14
hmm were still debating whether or not this is safe..... here is my personal experience
i had a 19x9.5 on a 215/35/19 and a 19x11 on a 245/35/19 daily driven about 55 miles a day at least just going to work, im not even calculating weekends and errands and school. Never had a problem, given i do not run my tires less than 40psi Minimum with that stretch
i had a 19x9.5 on a 215/35/19 and a 19x11 on a 245/35/19 daily driven about 55 miles a day at least just going to work, im not even calculating weekends and errands and school. Never had a problem, given i do not run my tires less than 40psi Minimum with that stretch
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09-20-2011, 06:19 PM
#15
. That was what my older brother & I was saying also (225/35/19 front). I'll probably just order them when the time is right and wait lol. I want Nitto Neo gens.
09-27-2011, 02:17 PM
#17
I'm not sure why tire stretching fad started but for someone who's been into wheels and tires, I could say its not the smartest fad.
Just to put a perspective, if you are going 60MPH and you loose bead on your tires and you hit a tree, your survival rate is about 50/50. One thing I would NEVER compromise on a car is wheels and tires. I only buy top name wheels and the best tires available. Just think of it as investment for your life...
PS. I have cracked a factory wheel on a car going 65+mph hitting a huge pot hole, lucky I didn't loose air pressure all at once and able to stop the car somewhat safely. Loosing bead, you will loose all your air at once!! And tire will be shredded in matter of seconds. Think about safety before doing this..
Just to put a perspective, if you are going 60MPH and you loose bead on your tires and you hit a tree, your survival rate is about 50/50. One thing I would NEVER compromise on a car is wheels and tires. I only buy top name wheels and the best tires available. Just think of it as investment for your life...
PS. I have cracked a factory wheel on a car going 65+mph hitting a huge pot hole, lucky I didn't loose air pressure all at once and able to stop the car somewhat safely. Loosing bead, you will loose all your air at once!! And tire will be shredded in matter of seconds. Think about safety before doing this..
Last edited by Herblenny; 09-27-2011 at 02:20 PM.
09-27-2011, 03:00 PM
#18
Intermediate
It all depends on what brand of tire you choose as well as if the tire runs true or small..Personally, i am running 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 +25 all with 225/35/19 fronts are toyo proxies and rear are general uhp (run big)..so basically its like a 235 but its a 225..i have never had a problem and commute 60miles a day and is daily driven..Also your air pressure plays a apart on having stretched tires..i keep my at 40psi so that it can absorb some impact from the roads..
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09-27-2011, 04:59 PM
#19
2016 E350 Sport
Remember this is a message board. You will notice seemingly popular fads only because people post on the same message board. However, it does not mean these fads are safe or in good taste.
09-27-2011, 09:14 PM
#20
It all depends on what brand of tire you choose as well as if the tire runs true or small..Personally, i am running 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 +25 all with 225/35/19 fronts are toyo proxies and rear are general uhp (run big)..so basically its like a 235 but its a 225..i have never had a problem and commute 60miles a day and is daily driven..Also your air pressure plays a apart on having stretched tires..i keep my at 40psi so that it can absorb some impact from the roads..
Also, you are almost in the manufacture recommended range. I would consider yours to be stretched but not as aggressive as some people I've seen.
And tire pressure... 40 is on the high side. And maybe you haven't experienced it but usually it will give much faster center wear. I know look of the car is important (even for me), but in the long run, setting up your tire and wheel combo correctly will yield better tire life and better handling.
09-27-2011, 11:27 PM
#21
just FYI OP these forums are not the places to be asking about tire stretch this group is more modest except for a select few like me, Decafe, Bforbrian and a few others. I learned that fast haha, if you want tire stretch help check out stanceworks, stancenation, canibeat vw vortex, tyrestretch...ETC
09-28-2011, 10:48 AM
#22
I'll say this, vipTL...
When people ask me about car builds, I always ask them, "What is your goal with your car?". I ask that because with my 20+ years of building cars, I realized you could spend endless amount of money to build something that's completely useless... but thinking its an all around car.
I have nothing again strech/poke look... if its for show only. But daily/performance car, I just want people to think about the consequences and make a judgement based on knowledge vs. pure cosmetic.
When people ask me about car builds, I always ask them, "What is your goal with your car?". I ask that because with my 20+ years of building cars, I realized you could spend endless amount of money to build something that's completely useless... but thinking its an all around car.
I have nothing again strech/poke look... if its for show only. But daily/performance car, I just want people to think about the consequences and make a judgement based on knowledge vs. pure cosmetic.
09-28-2011, 10:42 PM
#23
just FYI OP these forums are not the places to be asking about tire stretch this group is more modest except for a select few like me, Decafe, Bforbrian and a few others. I learned that fast haha, if you want tire stretch help check out stanceworks, stancenation, canibeat vw vortex, tyrestretch...ETC
09-29-2011, 07:13 PM
#25
I'll say this, vipTL...
When people ask me about car builds, I always ask them, "What is your goal with your car?". I ask that because with my 20+ years of building cars, I realized you could spend endless amount of money to build something that's completely useless... but thinking its an all around car.
I have nothing again strech/poke look... if its for show only. But daily/performance car, I just want people to think about the consequences and make a judgement based on knowledge vs. pure cosmetic.
When people ask me about car builds, I always ask them, "What is your goal with your car?". I ask that because with my 20+ years of building cars, I realized you could spend endless amount of money to build something that's completely useless... but thinking its an all around car.
I have nothing again strech/poke look... if its for show only. But daily/performance car, I just want people to think about the consequences and make a judgement based on knowledge vs. pure cosmetic.
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09-29-2011, 08:59 PM
#27
Actually its practical in its own way. Its practical because it allows you to get closer to wheel well without rubbing and the truly flush look is hot. I would love to have the truly flush look but still be able to drive normal and take fast turns. The only, only, only problem I have with stretch is when the rim sticks out past the tire more than half inch. It just looks like a misplaced piece of metal. I know to each his own I just thought but I thought shed a little light into the anti-stretch point of view.
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vipTL (09-30-2011)
09-30-2011, 08:04 AM
#29
Point again is that I understand if you had a set of wheels that are poked out or stretched for a show, but running them on a daily bases is not practical and could be dangerous... Just as a woman, who's job is to look beautiful but she's not going to sacrifice danger herself by wearing it ALL the time. And I'll tell you, NO WOMEN will wear high heels all time... And if she did, can you imagine what her feet would look like?? YIKES!!!
09-30-2011, 08:33 AM
#30
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i think they both look good all day long
09-30-2011, 08:59 AM
#31
LOL!
Maybe you and I have different tastes or have different fetishes.. But I look at a woman and last thing i look at is what high heel she's wearing.. Nor do I car to know about her shoes in general.
But we are not talking about women.. we are talking about cars.. And specifically wheels and tires. I'll say this... I look at a Godly heavy, cheap wheels and think, "WHY??". Or I see a no name brand tires on a super light expensive wheels and say, "WHY!!!???".
This Stretch/poke fad is in that same category.. And worse thing is, If I see cheap wheels, cheap tires, and stretched on a 30,000 dollar car, I just slap my face and just walk away.
Again, I hope people realize why they think its hot.. Just as bunch of women trying to look like some celeb and going out and buying bunch of crap. You could be a follower, but make sure you understand the consequences... Most serious builders and professionals think of this fad to be quite stupid.. but like I said, show vs. practicality is totally different. And I respect both and just wanted to make sure people understand their reason of doing so.
Maybe you and I have different tastes or have different fetishes.. But I look at a woman and last thing i look at is what high heel she's wearing.. Nor do I car to know about her shoes in general.
But we are not talking about women.. we are talking about cars.. And specifically wheels and tires. I'll say this... I look at a Godly heavy, cheap wheels and think, "WHY??". Or I see a no name brand tires on a super light expensive wheels and say, "WHY!!!???".
This Stretch/poke fad is in that same category.. And worse thing is, If I see cheap wheels, cheap tires, and stretched on a 30,000 dollar car, I just slap my face and just walk away.
Again, I hope people realize why they think its hot.. Just as bunch of women trying to look like some celeb and going out and buying bunch of crap. You could be a follower, but make sure you understand the consequences... Most serious builders and professionals think of this fad to be quite stupid.. but like I said, show vs. practicality is totally different. And I respect both and just wanted to make sure people understand their reason of doing so.
09-30-2011, 09:06 AM
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i do agree with most of what you're saying, herblenny.
i'm running 19x9 +25 FRONT and 19x9.5 +25 REAR on 225/35/19. IMO, it's a mild stretch...nothing compared to some of the stuff i see out there.
i would not be comfortable driving around with some of the setups i've seen on this forum and others. it just doesn't look safe to me.
i think if you can find a nice balance between style/comfort/practicality then you've won. not to sound like a douche, but i think my set up is right on the money. it's flush, yet safe and practical for DD. i haven't ran into any issues and i don't forsee anything negative happening in the future.
i'm running 19x9 +25 FRONT and 19x9.5 +25 REAR on 225/35/19. IMO, it's a mild stretch...nothing compared to some of the stuff i see out there.
i would not be comfortable driving around with some of the setups i've seen on this forum and others. it just doesn't look safe to me.
i think if you can find a nice balance between style/comfort/practicality then you've won. not to sound like a douche, but i think my set up is right on the money. it's flush, yet safe and practical for DD. i haven't ran into any issues and i don't forsee anything negative happening in the future.
09-30-2011, 09:49 AM
#33
Haha nice one sharks!!
Herblenny I agree with your point, no denying that. But just to throw it out there, have you dated a Korean or Vietnamese girl? I know a few who literraly wear heels everywhere, even Disneyland. Style over comfort, form over function, I guess.... But yea back to the point!!
Herblenny I agree with your point, no denying that. But just to throw it out there, have you dated a Korean or Vietnamese girl? I know a few who literraly wear heels everywhere, even Disneyland. Style over comfort, form over function, I guess.... But yea back to the point!!
09-30-2011, 10:19 AM
#34
Haha nice one sharks!!
Herblenny I agree with your point, no denying that. But just to throw it out there, have you dated a Korean or Vietnamese girl? I know a few who literraly wear heels everywhere, even Disneyland. Style over comfort, form over function, I guess.... But yea back to the point!!
Herblenny I agree with your point, no denying that. But just to throw it out there, have you dated a Korean or Vietnamese girl? I know a few who literraly wear heels everywhere, even Disneyland. Style over comfort, form over function, I guess.... But yea back to the point!!
I just googled her and looks like she's still in the business even at late 30s.
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05-06-2012, 01:14 PM
#37
Racer
I simply don't understand the herrafrush fad...
The again, I don't understand sacrificing practicality and performance in general just to look "cool". Whatever makes people happy I guess.
The again, I don't understand sacrificing practicality and performance in general just to look "cool". Whatever makes people happy I guess.
05-06-2012, 10:51 PM
#38
Instructor
i cant bitch as I have some slightly stretched tires, but when it sacrifices performance, I just dont get it regardless of looks. functionality should have presedence, but we cartards are a trendy society.
old timers will never udnerstand and the kids dont care if they do. kids is kids, they do what they like and thats thier perrogative. I really hope that we dont see stories of someone getting hurt from a fad though.
