Project_CLean

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Ditto. to the above 2 posts.

avs007

Fair enough. What do you think is the "current" definition then?

Since when is a paint job supposed to or meant to increase actual or perceived performance? Now if I painted a giant "Type-R" maybe...

A paint job does not change the perception of performance, nor does it intend to. (and it doesn't hurt it either) That's like saying tinting your windows doesn't help performance. Staggering on the other hand, serves a functional use. Which in a FWD setup is counter-productive, and if it isn't subtle, will make you look like an idiot, which is why I lumped it into the previous definition, which you don't agree with. Fair enough... But that's not the same as a paint job.

I could care less what you do with your car. You can paint it white with yellow polka dots for all I care. As long as YOU like it, that's all that matters.

Italiano

wasnt refering to your car,the one with the wing posted earlier... i like the color of yours...its different

uhohkaitlina

I don't even know how to define it. That picture describes it all. Distasteful modding, obnoxious wings, stickers, etc.

I think you're one of the few that is giving staggered setup on a FWD car so much negative attention. Okay, it isn't functional. I get it. Technically, neither is slamming a car in the NorthEast. Thats completely unfunctional, given the roads and weather, so is it ricey?

I just think you have your definition confused.

I wouldn't say rice and dysfunctional are one in the same.

But in the end, yes, as long as you like it that's all the matters.

TripAcez

Since when is running a staggered setup considered rice? That just doesnt even begin to make sense Go tell the "form>function" guys that what they do is rice..watch how fast you get flamed Running a staggered setup is nothing over the top really. Functional on a FWD? of course not, but thats not what its meant to be anymore. Running staggered in the modding world is meant more for aesthetics, no one is putting their cars on the track here.

Go to Stancenation.com and explain to them how they are supporting the "RICE" scene because they feature and glorify alot of those FWD staggered cars.

ABP_04TL

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Oh sh*t i see where this thread is heading :locked:

Italiano

It doesnt need 2 be locked...I say staggered FTW....

RaviNJCLs

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I won't bash. What I would say is that everyone has an opinion and I do not agree with yours.

pinina

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Not! It's FWD.

winkyyy

I would do with staggered wheels if you are just modding your car for aesthetic purposes, as many of us do, simply because we do not take our cars to the track every day and ripping every single corner is not a part of our daily driving habits. With that said a slight increase in understeer wont even be noticeable if you do not push your car to the limit. Making your car look nice doesn't always comply with making it perform better.

I don't get why everyone is getting so worked up about staggered being rice. Making your car look nicer with a better stance is not rice. Making your car look obnoxious with an a numerous amounts of accessories would be more defined as rice. Like those civics with their gigantic spoilers and their raspy ass exhaust.

murph145

i love my staggered set up!

but im in it more for the looks i get on the road versus track time since i dont track

i could care less what everyone wants or doesnt want on there car thats why it's your car have fun with it and do what you think looks best be it functionality or for the drool effect

TripAcez

He Hath Spoken!

Lol one of the guys on the forum whose TL i look up to. His car reminds me that this TL will be well worth it once the wrench time is put into it!

Italiano

lol

CrAiG ALL DaY

Staggered ftw

CubanLynx84

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Were you at Hondaday back in 2010 at englishtown, if so me and my lil bro were parked behind you me in the wdp tl and my bro in the cgp rl on 20's

SVTruong

not staggered. Non functional = not cool =P

Italiano

^^^^^^...lol

uhohkaitlina

Sure was! Haha. That was from two Honda Day's ago I think. (Don't remember).

I'll be there this year, but with the tsx =)

CubanLynx84

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I knew I remembered that accord. I was in the white to and my brother was in the gray RL on 20's. We were all parked back to back. I might go this year.

emilio320

i am torn between function and form, but i will admit i lean more towards the function when it comes to mods. That being said, someone mentioned having the same width wheels but with slightly different offsets to get rid of the "sunken in" look and make them more flush, i just wonder what setup would best give the "illusion" of slightly staggered look? Don't mean to hi-jack OP just thought the question was relevant enough

JD TL-S

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I was considering going staggered.

19"x8.5" front wheels with 245/35/19 tires.

19"x9.5" rear wheels with 275/30/19 tires.

I was told by people on AZ that did staggered and suggested to NOT do it.

I will just do the same all around. Better handling, able to rotate.

245/35/19' tires with 19"x8.5" wheels with a +35 offset. Like I did before.

And lowering 1.75" F & R with Tein SS coilovers.

uhohkaitlina

GO! And find me. Definitely going to Englishtown, not sure about Atco.

That's what I am doing for my first set of wheels with the TSX.

+48 front and +32 rear. It'll be flush all around.

emilio320

Awesome! thanks for those specs, hopefully they apply to the TL as much as they do your TSX, I think those second gen's are pretty damn close to the 3RD gen TL's in dimensions.

P.S. the fact that your rocking a 6 speed and I settled for a damn auto makes me feel like some one should be snatching up my man card lol j.k

Italiano

I'm confused^^don't u have a 3rd gen Tl? If so those specs will not be flush

CubanLynx84

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Don't you have a type s? If so you can't use +35 offset with the brembos. You'll need to go +38's or run some 3mm spacers in the front to clear the brembos.

WhyteLegend

Staggered even the old legend Yup

uhohkaitlina

Haha.

Get the man pedal in your next car!

I will never ever opt out of the man pedal again. Until I either a) lose a leg or b) the world stops making manuals. hope that neither of those happen, ever. Lol.

emilio320

Well i am keeping this car for everrrrr so i will jus thave to start gathering the parts to swap in a 6-Speed, can't be to0o hard lol ...UNLESS the rumor my friend told me is true, that the new NSX is coming out for around 30k!! if so then i will get THAT in a 6-speed for damn sure lol

AcRightLINY

stagger swagger!!!!

Dan Nguyen

non staggered imo