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Old 01-28-2012, 12:51 PM
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Staggered or not staggered?

whats the if any benefit of staggered wheels? Very close to ordering my 19's and wanna make sure I make right decision for myself... Is it just the look of the wheels on the car?
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On a FWD car; there is only aesthetic purposes. Serves no benefit at all other than looks. On a RWD car;well thats a different story.
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On a FWD car; there is only aesthetic purposes. Serves no benefit at all other than looks. On a RWD car;well thats a different story.
what I thought. Thanks!
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no problem.
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Looks BAUSSY, is the difference.
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^he's got a point.
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Old 01-29-2012, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rybruce33
whats the if any benefit of staggered wheels? ....
Looks only (and it can look very nice). Zero (maybe negative) functional benefit.

Staggerd with directional tires = no rotation too. Somthing to keep in mind if you don't have $$$ to throw at tires.
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Looks great. But it is a real pain in the ass when it comes to tire rotations.
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Looks great. But it is a real pain in the ass when it comes to tire rotations.
^^ It is but oh well. I would actually unmount the tires and remount them the other side in so that the worn part would be towards the outside. (If that makes sense).

It is a pain. It drives kind of weird. BUT..wouldn't do it any other way.

If a chick can rock staggered wheels, any guy should =P
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Old 01-29-2012, 06:00 PM
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^^^^

I guess I'm just cheap.
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
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I guess I'm just cheap.
Na, there are others like you. No worries. lol

I think it can look pretty neat but not very functional = not ever wanting a setup like that.....sort of like dragging your oil pan down the road because the car looks cool slammed. No make no sense atall.
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Na, there are others like you. No worries. lol

I think it can look pretty neat but not very functional = not ever wanting a setup like that.....sort of like dragging your oil pan down the road because the car looks cool slammed. No make no sense atall.


It would be another thing if I drove 10K miles a year. You only have to do 2 rotations, maybe 3. I rotate my tires every 6 weeks.
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Originally Posted by uhohkaitlina
^^ It is but oh well. I would actually unmount the tires and remount them the other side in so that the worn part would be towards the outside. (If that makes sense).

It is a pain. It drives kind of weird. BUT..wouldn't do it any other way.

If a chick can rock staggered wheels, any guy should =P
Is that u in your Avatar?....if so damn ur hot...lol ...anyway Op staggered just looks damn good that's it....
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Staggered wheel on FWD is RICE. I'm sorry but its true. I guess I am more of a function over fashion type of person.

Plz guys dont bash me.
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Originally Posted by cokorote
Staggered wheel on FWD is RICE. I'm sorry but its true. I guess I am more of a function over fashion type of person.

Plz guys dont bash me.
How is it rice? Please explain.

I love when people throw that word around and apply it to things where it..simply makes no sense.

THIS is rice:




And you're going to tell me my car was rice?:



Like someone else said... maybe not IDEALLY functional. But no way, shape, or form, rice..
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get em Baby^^^^^ Look at those guys in the background talkin about...(mmm Im glad i didnt go staggered,someone might call my car Ricey)....lol

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Originally Posted by cokorote
Staggered wheel on FWD is RICE. I'm sorry but its true. I guess I am more of a function over fashion type of person.

Plz guys dont bash me.
yeah, you're right. this car is RICE'D out to the max.



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Old 01-30-2012, 09:59 AM
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Cant beleive how Uncle Ben's that is^^^^^
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^point proven. not rice at all shark;
but OP asked for benefits..looks amazing when done right (example:sharksbreath),also kaitlina's 8th gen looks great.
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lol, sorry if I butt hurt you everybody I was expressing my opinion. IMO I rather run non staggered unless you're going to live with the All Show No Go concept. That's just my preference and I know the photo posted here look good and clean. But whats the point of having stagger on fwd? To look like your car is RWD?

To each his own.
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Originally Posted by cokorote
lol, sorry if I butt hurt you everybody I was expressing my opinion. IMO I rather run non staggered unless you're going to live with the All Show No Go concept. That's just my preference and I know the photo posted here look good and clean. But whats the point of having stagger on fwd? To look like your car is RWD?

To each his own.
It's not to "look" like your car is anything but sexy goodness. In MY opinion, a car with an aggressive staggered setup will always look better than a car that has a regular setup.

When I see a staggered setup on a car, done well, i have an eye-gasm. Just looks so good to me.

But like you said to each his own.
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^ i like her.

they definitely look more aggressive..anything with a wide stance usually looks good; i spend a lot of time browsing thru stanceworks for that "sexy goodness" lol
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Originally Posted by SharksBreath
yeah, you're right. this car is RICE'D out to the max.



That shits clean man! Nice look! I wanted the NBP but caught a GREAT deal on a manual AM. Have many black cars/trucks. Guess time to change it up. I'll have my 19" and drop by summer.
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Originally Posted by Project_CLean
^ i like her.

they definitely look more aggressive..anything with a wide stance usually looks good; i spend a lot of time browsing thru stanceworks for that "sexy goodness" lol
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Stay tuned. It may take me like a year with all the stuff I have going on but my TSX will have that sexy goodness. =D
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Do you head to Honda day kaitlina? I went last year; long drive from Boston but it was pretty good.
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Originally Posted by cokorote
lol, sorry if I butt hurt you everybody I was expressing my opinion. IMO I rather run non staggered unless you're going to live with the All Show No Go concept. That's just my preference and I know the photo posted here look good and clean. But whats the point of having stagger on fwd? To look like your car is RWD?

To each his own.
all show no go?

i have an eclectic mix of both worlds. every bolt on imaginable and the J&R ECU will push me to 300whp.

and like kaitlina said, it's not about making your car look like RWD...it just makes the stance look MUCH better. i only have .5" difference on the rear wheels and it is noticeable enough, yet not overpowering.
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Originally Posted by rybruce33
whats the if any benefit of staggered wheels? Very close to ordering my 19's and wanna make sure I make right decision for myself... Is it just the look of the wheels on the car?
Its the look, and as you can see with Sharks car they look amazing.
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Originally Posted by Project_CLean


Do you head to Honda day kaitlina? I went last year; long drive from Boston but it was pretty good.
Every year!! In august though, I'm not a huge fan of Atco.

And unfortunately, mother nature did not cooperate at all last year =[
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ahh; i missed the august one. i went to Atco raceway.
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Originally Posted by Project_CLean


Do you head to Honda day kaitlina? I went last year; long drive from Boston but it was pretty good.
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ahh; i missed the august one. i went to Atco raceway.
Come to Englishtown next year. Much better!
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Originally Posted by cokorote
lol, sorry if I butt hurt you everybody I was expressing my opinion. IMO I rather run non staggered unless you're going to live with the All Show No Go concept. That's just my preference and I know the photo posted here look good and clean. But whats the point of having stagger on fwd? To look like your car is RWD?

To each his own.
Different strokes I guess. I wouldn't run wider wheels/tires on the rear simply because it increases understeer, which is bad enough to begin with, but I am all for bringing the rears out 5mm more than the front to square things up, either through lower offsets or spacers. The rears are way too sunken in on these cars, and I'll endure a bit more understeer to lose that look.

That said, if it's done right I wouldn't call it rice. But if you start getting into crazy wide rear tires and crazy camber it can approach rice status.
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Who here wants to see what an eye-gasm looks like?......Me....Me.....Me..:-)
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^ ... i think he's gettin somewhere with this. lol

Kaitlina; I am planning to go; if you're still around the forums then ill let you know if im headin down.
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a bit off topic .. Anyone running different offsets for the rear but same width wheels?

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Originally Posted by uhohkaitlina
How is it rice? Please explain.

I love when people throw that word around and apply it to things where it..simply makes no sense.
Actually, traditionally "Rice" was applied to things where the owner considered "Image" above "Performance", particularly to items that were detrimental to performance.

Staggering a FWD car with bigger wheels in back, is exactly this... Your making your car which already tends to understeer, to understeer even more. Sure if makes your car look nice, but you're also making yourself look like a fool. (No offense). You're basically pretending you have a RWD car, which is another thing "Rice" is applied to. Making your car pretend to be something that it's not.

Now if you stagger your FWD car the right way, the way GM staggered the Grand Prix GXP, where the FRONT tires were bigger than the rear, THAT actually served a performance function of balancing the car's performance by REDUCING understeer.

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You're basically pretending you have a RWD car.
never once have i pretended i have a RWD car, or even thought that.

i get what you're saying about some of your explanation. and while some people can stagger the crap out of TL's (which looks ridiculous)...if you keep it minimal and not too noticeable, it looks fantastic. having an extra .5" in the rear doesn't constitute a staggered set up in my book. it's just a minimal difference that totally changes the appearance. helps fill out the well a bit more and adds some concave to your stance. and that tiny bit of added width isn't going to throw off anything in regards to steering. i don't autoX anyway so what do i care?

now if you throw 19x8 in the front and 19x10.5 in the rear...then yes, that looks wonky.
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You sir truly are an idiot^^^^^^^
Why? Because you can't handle the truth? Someone asked why it would be considered rice, so I gave the definition of rice, and how it could fit.

Originally Posted by SharksBreath
if you keep it minimal and not too noticeable, it looks fantastic.
That is key.

now if you throw 19x8 in the front and 19x10.5 in the rear...then yes, that looks wonky.
This is mostly what I was talking about. Guys that put rims with deep lips on the rear of their FWD car, and then put the same rime with much smaller or no lip on the front wheel. Usually with 8" in front and 9.5" or bigger in back. With 245 up front and 275 in rear. Those are the guys I think look like fools.
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^ ... i think he's gettin somewhere with this. lol

Kaitlina; I am planning to go; if you're still around the forums then ill let you know if im headin down.
Oh I'm not going anywhere, trust me.

Originally Posted by avs007
Actually, traditionally "Rice" was applied to things where the owner considered "Image" above "Performance", particularly to items that were detrimental to performance.

Staggering a FWD car with bigger wheels in back, is exactly this... Your making your car which already tends to understeer, to understeer even more. Sure if makes your car look nice, but you're also making yourself look like a fool. (No offense). You're basically pretending you have a RWD car, which is another thing "Rice" is applied to. Making your car pretend to be something that it's not.

Now if you stagger your FWD car the right way, the way GM staggered the Grand Prix GXP, where the FRONT tires were bigger than the rear, THAT actually served a performance function of balancing the car's performance by REDUCING understeer.
"Traditionally," maybe that was the definition of rice. But that is not the current definition by any means.

I'll keep with my wheels staggered. When I get my setup, lets meet up and have people take a vote as to which car looks sexier. I bet you hands down, I win.

Maybe I should call your paint job ricey. That's definitely not helping your performance.

To each his/her own.
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your definition is wrong...and so is your dictionary....Staggered doesnt = Rice...that orange car^^^^^^is Uncle Bens


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