Replaced tires on our 2004 TL at 22000 miles. Seems wrong???
#41
Suzuka Master
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Sorry for reviving an old thread.
I'd like to revisit this as new tires may be out on the market that I am unaware of.
My 2004 TL tires need to be replaced now after 33,000km
I too was surprised as I didn't replace my old Civic tires until after 60,000km.
I'm in Vancouver so it rains quite a bit. We get the occassional snow in the winter as well.
Driving-wise, I take transit for work and only drive on days off, evenings/weekends.
Mostly city driving, but we do a few road trips to Whistler and down to Seattle each year.
I'm thinking a set of all seasons with good value. I don't need anything high performance as I'm a family man now.
Your advice is appreciate since I'm clueless about tires.
Thank you.
I'd like to revisit this as new tires may be out on the market that I am unaware of.
My 2004 TL tires need to be replaced now after 33,000km
I too was surprised as I didn't replace my old Civic tires until after 60,000km.
I'm in Vancouver so it rains quite a bit. We get the occassional snow in the winter as well.
Driving-wise, I take transit for work and only drive on days off, evenings/weekends.
Mostly city driving, but we do a few road trips to Whistler and down to Seattle each year.
I'm thinking a set of all seasons with good value. I don't need anything high performance as I'm a family man now.
Your advice is appreciate since I'm clueless about tires.
Thank you.
Food for thought.
#42
Drifting
Tire shops have been known to refuse to install tires with a lower speed rating than OEM tires, because the car's speed limiter is set slightly above the speed rating of the OEM tire. They prob don't want the liability...
#43
Suzuka Master
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If mounting was a concern all one needs to do is to take the wheels to the facility and have the new tires mounted.
In fact, I never take our cars to a shop, I only take the wheels. Don't need some gorilla tightening the lug nuts to 150 lbs.
#44
Drifting
All of them mentioned the factory speed limiter of 130mph for cars that came with H-Rated tires, 155 that came on Z-Rated cars, etc.
#45
Suzuka Master
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Quite common over here. I've had Costco refuse to mount 2 tires that were mismatched from the front (new tires were Grand Touring Performance Tires, old tires were high performance all season). I've also had both Les Schwab refuse to install H rated tires on a car that came with Z rated tires, and I also had America's Tire Company refuse to install non speed rated tires on a car that came with H-Rated tires.
All of them mentioned the factory speed limiter of 130mph for cars that came with H-Rated tires, 155 that came on Z-Rated cars, etc.
All of them mentioned the factory speed limiter of 130mph for cars that came with H-Rated tires, 155 that came on Z-Rated cars, etc.
#46
Suzuka Master
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Just wantd to add, I know of no law that inhibits the replacemnt of a tire with a lower speed rating. The NHTSA only specifies that the manufacturer have a placard with the tire information and recommends replacement using same.
If you come up with a specific law on the replacement let me know.
If you come up with a specific law on the replacement let me know.
#47
Drifting
Just wantd to add, I know of no law that inhibits the replacemnt of a tire with a lower speed rating. The NHTSA only specifies that the manufacturer have a placard with the tire information and recommends replacement using same.
If you come up with a specific law on the replacement let me know.
If you come up with a specific law on the replacement let me know.
The Z-rated tires on the cars I was referring to actually came with W-rated tires, but most people (including myself) just refer to them as Z rated.
But anyways, I hand-roll my wheels into the tire shop anyways... Not because of the speed rating thing, but becaues I don't trust the tire shop to install my wheels on my car. I've had them cross thread the lugs, snap the studs trying to remove said lugs, carelessly toss the wheel on the mounting machine, miss, and gouge the wheels... Forget to tighten the lugs (I carry a torque wrench in my trunk, so I went to check to make sure they were torqued to spec in the parking lot, and found some of the lugs were not even hand tight) Misplace or otherwise forget to reinstall the hub-ring-adapter on my wheels, etc, etc, etc. FWIW, most of these incidents happened at Les Schwab, so I actually never go there anymore...
I noticed when I hand roll in my aftermarket wheels (to America's Tire Company anyways), they are VERY careful when installing the tires
Last edited by avs007; 01-29-2009 at 11:14 AM.
#48
Suzuka Master
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I know there is no law, I was just saying that I've seen tire shops refuse to install the above mentioned tires. Similar, to how I've also seen tire shops refuse to work on a tire treated with Fix-a-flat. No laws saying they can or can't, completely the tire shop's decision in all these cases.
The Z-rated tires on the cars I was referring to actually came with W-rated tires, but most people (including myself) just refer to them as Z rated.
But anyways, I hand-roll my wheels into the tire shop anyways... Not because of the speed rating thing, but becaues I don't trust the tire shop to install my wheels on my car. I've had them cross thread the lugs, snap the studs trying to remove said lugs, carelessly toss the wheel on the mounting machine, miss, and gouge the wheels... Forget to tighten the lugs (I carry a torque wrench in my trunk, so I went to check to make sure they were torqued to spec in the parking lot, and found some of the lugs were not even hand tight) Misplace or otherwise forget to reinstall the hub-ring-adapter on my wheels, etc, etc, etc. FWIW, most of these incidents happened at Les Schwab, so I actually never go there anymore...
I noticed when I hand roll in my aftermarket wheels (to America's Tire Company anyways), they are VERY careful when installing the tires
The Z-rated tires on the cars I was referring to actually came with W-rated tires, but most people (including myself) just refer to them as Z rated.
But anyways, I hand-roll my wheels into the tire shop anyways... Not because of the speed rating thing, but becaues I don't trust the tire shop to install my wheels on my car. I've had them cross thread the lugs, snap the studs trying to remove said lugs, carelessly toss the wheel on the mounting machine, miss, and gouge the wheels... Forget to tighten the lugs (I carry a torque wrench in my trunk, so I went to check to make sure they were torqued to spec in the parking lot, and found some of the lugs were not even hand tight) Misplace or otherwise forget to reinstall the hub-ring-adapter on my wheels, etc, etc, etc. FWIW, most of these incidents happened at Les Schwab, so I actually never go there anymore...
I noticed when I hand roll in my aftermarket wheels (to America's Tire Company anyways), they are VERY careful when installing the tires
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