racerchris

It's the wife's car, so it's been babied since new.

Is there an issue with the stock tires on 2004 TL's?

neuronbob

If they are the Turanzas, they lasted a long time. 22k miles is very long service for them.

glnn01

The Turanzas that come with the car are horrible. Mine were pretty much bald at around 20k miles. I didn't change 'em out until I had around 27k miles (which wasn't a good idea). I should've changed em out earlier.

racerchris

Is this abnormal tire life for a passenger car? The stickly tires on my 2001 Corvette lasted more than this mileage and that included a couple day at the track...

Has anyone blamed / talked to Acura about this?

Phesto

el42's just were bad tires ,Acura cutting corners...........they now have different tires stock not sure what brand

GUMP

Plenty of posts about the horrible stock tires. 22k is pretty good. I'm changing mine now with 31k. See post below.

neuronbob

Use teh search n00b. We have been complaining about the Bullshi*stone Terroranzas since the 3G TL appeared in 2003. Cliff's notes: There were enough complaints to Acura that the tire was reformulated in 2004, which improved them marginally. Acura then switched to Michelins (forget which one right this sec) for the Navi models in 2005, leaving Turanzas for everybody else except for those who bought the HPT option.

So the answer is "yes". I hope you didin't replace the tires with Turanzas?

Hawhyen51

Chris, you may be interested in this thread. Read the thread and print SB 05-050 and make an appontment with your dealership to have your car inspected. Take it from there.

I didn't take note of the title ..... Replaced tires ...... If that's the case, I'm not sure if the SB would still be valid. You can always check with your dealer.

xtin

Michelin

dsc888

I'll be changing my EL42s out real soon. I have 25K on mine and they are the reformulated ones. There is still probably about 3K left of life on them but I will not chance it. I will either go with the Pirelli PZerors or the Toyo Proxes4s. I never had issues with the EL42s though.

dsc888

Ol Blue Eyes

changed my el's after 13k or so, just didn't feel safe with them on in any type of wet weather condition

subinf

they were god awful when it would rain. it was truly amazing how uncomfortable the car felt when the road was wet.

Bert Kanne

For some reason most car manufacturers use a oem tire that everyone seems to dislike. OEM tires tend to be either too expensive, too short tread life, lack traction or they are noisy. At my dealer we recommend the Avon's which get rave reviews from Tire Rack. Just be sure your car is aligned right, you watch the tire pressure and you rotate the tires regularly.

WILLV

I Have 11,000 Mile On Mind,tire Are Almost Worn Out, Not Only That I Was Driving One Night Going About 80 Or 90mph On I-95,i Hit A Bum On The Road And Got A Blow-out.dealer Want Almost $280 For The Tire.tire Makes Is Michelin Pilot Hxhm. They Are The Worst Tires I Ever Use.

RJANACONDA

iTrader: (1)

What I dont understand is that they are crappy tires but they are not even all that cheap i think tire rack had them about 4$ per tire more than the khumo's

Ol Blue Eyes

poor guy

A_UFO

My 05 AT Navi TL has the Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 in OEM size of 235/45WR17.

moreace

Sadly enough, I still have my EL-42's on my 2 year old auto TL with over 32,000 miles. TIME TO CHANGE. Any advise on where to get tires for a decent price. My last car could get good Dunlops for $80 ea, now I am seeing TL tires for $180 ea.

TL-CrAzIe-05

I'd recommend the TOYO Proxes 4. These are great tires and not that expensive. I went with 245/45/17's. They have been a great all season performance tire. Just my though.

Ol Blue Eyes

and i got my toyo proxes 4 from edgeracing.com for my OEM wheels. and i got them in a package with my 20s from wheel wharehouse in anaheim, ca.


i think i paid 108 a tire from edgeracing

moreace

EL-42s are on SPECIAL at tire rack for $179 ea (ouch)

These are the 4 that stood out to me:

Continental ContiExtremeContact
(Ultra High Performance All-Season)

Dunlop SP Sport 5000 Asymmetrical
(Ultra High Performance All-Season)

Kumho ECSTA ASX
(Ultra High Performance All-Season)

Pirelli PZero Nero M&S
(Ultra High Performance All-Season)

Any experience with any them?

Unfortunately I did not see the Toyo's so I will either have to look harder or check another place. Thanks for the input.

quake97

I was lucky enough to have my EL42s replaced under warranty at my dealership. They obviously know about this POS tires. Next time around, I'm going for the Toyo's, since that's what I was going to get until the dealership replaced them for free.

Joe

GUMP

Go to Tirerack.com and check out the Avons..I'll be ordering them next week. They get good reviews and high marks from a tire dealer I use that doesn't even carry them.

HiTEC

That's because Khumo's are a cheaper ($) tire brand.

DeadLock

Mine were not that bad at all, I got the car with 10k miles, but I took it in and got all new bump stops and 4 new tires under warantee, I just told them about the service bulletin, they hooked me up, since the tires didnt show any excessive wear at all, I think its only when you overload the trunk and back seat.

But the tread wear on the stock tires is low as well, so that is a part of it as well.

Can't complain for now, since I have new tires.

1995hoo

There are LOTS of threads on this. Just scroll through the forum and you'll find a lot of them. I changed out my EL42s at a bit over 18,000 miles in early January. They had plenty of life left (the guy who did the swap agreed), but they were awful in the rain. I got the Pirelli P Zero Nero M&S and have not regretted it. I have about 3,000 miles on them now (give or take a few hundred) and they've been excellent in the wet and the dry and adequate in snow. I've got a thread on the main 3G TL forum that consists of my 20,000-mile review and you can read my comments there if you search for it, but in a nutshell, my conclusion was that if you live in an area where you normally need snow tyres during the winter, you should not regard the Pirellis as being a potential substitute—stick with the snow tyres. If, on the other hand, you live in an area like DC, where we only occasionally get a snow dumping but we get a reasonable amount of rain, the Pirellis should be excellent for you. (The only time I've had trouble with the Pirellis was in an unplowed car park after a 25 cm fall of snow in Quebec. That's more or less to be expected, I suppose.)

I used TireVan.net, a local DC area business that comes to your house to install your new tyres. They order from the Tire Rack. Based on my experience, I assume that most Tire Rack–approved installers are probably OK.

itsnorm

Last month, after losing control & careening into a snow bank during a snow storm, I got 4 new Pirelli PZero Nero M&S tires. Besides a slightly rough ride and a little extra road noise, these things are awesome. I feel so secure on these guys. Pricey, but they handle great!

mlody

22000 miles is ridiculously low in general, but high for TL. A friend of mine has ’03 G35 with the same tires and he has put over 45000 miles and still has them (even drives the car in the Chicago winter and does not complain).

Are there any users with Michelin’s tires who got close to 40000 miles on them?

SBTL

It's not your tires...it's the faulty alignment of the TL especially under loaded conditions. I've burned through 2 sets of tires (I have the A-Spec set up) in 13,000 miles and after a realignment my 3rd set seems to be wearing a bit better. Maybe I'll get 10,000 if I'm lucky. I would be completely satisfied if I got 22,500 miles on a set of tires.

cjhurtado2

So, how long does the OEM Michellin tires last? I am about 22,xxx miles on my car. According to my last service (3/4/2006), I still have 7/32 of thread left. Does it mean I will get another 10-15K miles on it? I do a lot of highway driving, an average of 60 miles per day.

GUMP

I drive 5 days a week about 65 miles, mostly highway..I'm replacing mine next week. I'll get 31k on them...seems pretty good based on other comments.

DKA

Gotta go with Gump - I have two EL42's with just over 30,000 miles on them

One of the stock EL42's let go at about 26,000 miles (not sure what happened...) and I replaced that pair with Toyo Proxes 4: love the Toyo's, will replace the other 2 EL42's when they're done.

Oh, I drive ~1600 miles per month, highway, for work, 1400 miles a month, highway, for picking up / dropping off my kids.

Dave
'05 6MT NBP/Ebony

AznSilverTL

i have an '05 non navi tl with the el42 and i have over 23k miles on them and they still probably are only half worn out....kinda weird or rare case i guess after reading about all these horror stories after 15k or whatever

Adamo0926

Where and how do you people drive ??? LOL I think the Bridgestone tires suck too but bald after 20,000 miles or less ????? My 05 TL has just over 23,000 miles on it now and I am not all that close to swapping out the original tires. The only reason I would swap them out now is to get a set of Pirelli P Zero Nero's M&S....I had those on my VW Jetta GLX and loved them. Dry traction was unreal and they were just as good on wet roads. I also drove them through a very rough New England Winter and didn't even have a problem with that !

If you are getting 20,000 miles or less out of a set of tires you either are driving like a maniac, drving on sandpaper, or can't stand it once a tread wears down a fraction of an inch.....LOL. As for people that said their tires were bald at 11,000 miles or so....my suggestion.....sue the tire company....lol.

TLVR

My EL-42 were gone at 20K. Seems that thats all one can get out of them. And thats with easy driving, regular rotations and alignments.Someone told me that the Florida road/asphalt has some shell filler in it. That might make it very abrasive and accelerate the wear. But when they start to hydroplane you do not mess with your life! My Kumhos ASX work great although I do not expect to get beyond 20-25K on this set- based on whats left after 10K.

GUMP

I've had the Avon's on for about a month now and they are great. They are quiet and feel great. A great value also..$590 for everything. Bought them off of tirerack.

HEK

Pirelli PZero Nero M&S
(Ultra High Performance All-Season)


were my choice at 17K and just because is Summer and I had some spare change to buy them but besides the Turanzas sucking in the snow I had no other complaints, personally I think these would work great on a rear wheel car , not the TL, but like I mentioned on other threads, I had a RSX-S and the Michelin Pilots as OEM were garbage, but here I see some guys loving it...so IMHO (humble) I say that the Turanzas are not for the TL...but they're not garbage...

SouthernBoy

I'm getting very close to replacing my stock OEM tires on my '04 TL manual (of couse, the EL42s). I have just over 25,000 miles on the car and tires. First I'm putting new low dusting pads on the front (Rotex Gold Kevlar pads) and will thorough wash the accumulated dust from the inside areas of the front wheels. Then next comes the tires.

I'm most likely going to go with Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S tires even though they are only H rated. I was having a really hard time deciding between them and the Pilot Sport A/S's since I've had those before. But the Pilot Sport A/S tires make a strange, and somewhat annoying sound, very similar to what you would hear driving down a tree-lined two-lane country road that is freshly wet from rain. This sound seems to only present itself under throttle or braking conditions, but is very noticable. Other than that, the Pilot Sport A/S's are really superior tires.

The car that I had the Pilot Sport A/S tires installed on was my last one.. a 2002 Altima SE which came stock with out infamous EL42's. I which to the Michelins at 33,000 miles on that car and still have maybe another 10,000 left on the EL42s. But talk about hydroplaning.. it was to the point of complete contact separation in heavy rain with standing water with that car with the EL42s. My TL has never been like that.

At 25,000 miles, the EL42s on my TL could probably go another 6-10,000 miles, but I will not do this simply because I am not fond of the tire.

ACURA_TL_04

i kept my stock tires and wheels until 10,000 AND then got 20's and toyos and they work pretty good b/c i have had them since 38,000 - 39,000 and then changed them agian and i need to change them agin b/c i have 63,000 miles on my tl and it is a 2004 but mostly highways miles

Magoomba

Sorry for reviving an old thread.
I'd like to revisit this as new tires may be out on the market that I am unaware of.
My 2004 TL tires need to be replaced now after 33,000km
I too was surprised as I didn't replace my old Civic tires until after 60,000km.
I'm in Vancouver so it rains quite a bit. We get the occassional snow in the winter as well.
Driving-wise, I take transit for work and only drive on days off, evenings/weekends.
Mostly city driving, but we do a few road trips to Whistler and down to Seattle each year.
I'm thinking a set of all seasons with good value. I don't need anything high performance as I'm a family man now.

Your advice is appreciate since I'm clueless about tires.
Thank you.