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Old 03-21-2012, 06:12 AM
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Hey guys, I just picked up 07 TL-S a few weeks ago. I took the rear tires off the car over the weekends to install the a spec kit. I noticed if the tires worn out in the inside. It's telling me if the alignment is off on the car. I look under the car on the suspension and There's only have toe adjusment on the rear. Does all TL-S have this problem? Do I need aftermarket chamber adjusment for the car. Hate buying new tires because off this.. HELPPPP....
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Yes, only toe adjustment (F&R) on the TL, no camber, and if the car is on stock suspension, not lowered, rear toe is probably out of spec. Get it aligned and see what the results might be. Aftermarket toe and camber adjustment kits are available if the need ever arises:
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/home.php?cat=656
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Originally Posted by Rsoetidjo
Hey guys, I just picked up 07 TL-S a few weeks ago. I took the rear tires off the car over the weekends to install the a spec kit. I noticed if the tires worn out in the inside. It's telling me if the alignment is off on the car. I look under the car on the suspension and There's only have toe adjusment on the rear. Does all TL-S have this problem? Do I need aftermarket chamber adjusment for the car. Hate buying new tires because off this.. HELPPPP....
There is an aftermarket camber adjustment kit available for the rear.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eibach-Sprin...#ht_1166wt_934
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just so no misunderstanding on this.. what Turbo said! +1111
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Are there any other kits in the market beside that?
Old 03-22-2012, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
Yes, only toe adjustment (F&R) on the TL, no camber, and if the car is on stock suspension, not lowered, rear toe is probably out of spec. Get it aligned and see what the results might be. Aftermarket toe and camber adjustment kits are available if the need ever arises:
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/home.php?cat=656
My type-s is on stock height. Do you think the alignment is off?
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Has the car been lowered?
Old 03-22-2012, 07:27 AM
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^^^ YES! your alignment IS off, or something is bent. you shouldnt be wearing tires abnormally with a bone stock car.
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Originally Posted by Rsoetidjo
My type-s is on stock height. Do you think the alignment is off?
Yes, and it's common for most cars to periodically need a wheel realignment (my TL had one about 40K miles ago, and needs another now).

I agree with Turbonut's post above-- an adjustment to the rear toe will probably get your tire wear and high speed handling back to normal, assuming no damage to the suspension from impacts, etc.
A 4-wheel alignment-- front and rear wheels-- for the TL should be about $100.
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Originally Posted by Rsoetidjo
Are there any other kits in the market beside that?
Get a four-wheel alignment per advice given in your other thread first.
Camber plates may be unnecessary.
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Your most likely off alingment , hit a curb or pot hole hard ? Or lower your car recently , that will throw off the alingment
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you most likely don't need a camber kit. camber will not cause inner tire wear on its own. get your car aligned and have the tech set rear toe to 0.
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Originally Posted by JETSPD1477
you most likely don't need a camber kit. camber will not cause inner tire wear on its own. get your car aligned and have the tech set rear toe to 0.
Just to mention, excessive camber will cause wear even if the toe is set properly, it's just that the wear will be smooth, not feathered as is seen when the toe is out of spec. Think about the situation, if excessive camber didn't cause uneven wear we wouldn't need to install camber kits.
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Originally Posted by johnny3
Has the car been lowered?
The car is not lowered or hit any curb. And I just bought the car a few weeks ago
Old 03-23-2012, 06:28 AM
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well..., I gues I have to make a trip to the alignment shop.
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
Just to mention, excessive camber will cause wear even if the toe is set properly, it's just that the wear will be smooth, not feathered as is seen when the toe is out of spec. Think about the situation, if excessive camber didn't cause uneven wear we wouldn't need to install camber kits.
agreed. i was assuming since the wear was unexpected that the car isn't lowered. camber cant be that far out of spec requiring a correction kit. if the camber is that far out of spec and the car isn't lowered then there's a bigger problem. if anything i should have just suggested getting the car aligned.
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Tires may have been rotated prior to purchase and wear was from front, but that wear pattern is not uncommon on the TL
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Originally Posted by JETSPD1477
agreed. i was assuming since the wear was unexpected that the car isn't lowered. camber cant be that far out of spec requiring a correction kit. if the camber is that far out of spec and the car isn't lowered then there's a bigger problem. if anything i should have just suggested getting the car aligned.

I wasn't trying to knit pick, but just wanted to make certain everyone was on the same page.
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Toe is good. But the left camber is -1 degree, and the right is -1.5 degree. And no camber adjusment
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Toe is good. But the left camber is -1 degree, and the right is -1.5 degree. And no camber adjusment.
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Originally Posted by Rsoetidjo
Toe is good. But the left camber is -1 degree, and the right is -1.5 degree. And no camber adjusment.
Scan or post the final settings. Many say toe is good but they set it incorrectly and with those camber numbers within spec (-0.5/-1.5), that won't wear out the inside of the tire. That right rear is at the max, unusual for a stock suspension '07 car. How many miles? If you rub your palm around the inside of the tire, back and forth, is the tread feathered, not smooth, or smooth like the outside?

And why do you currently have 2 threads on the same subject? One in Tires, one in Problems. They should be combined.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=851419

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Originally Posted by Rsoetidjo
Toe is good. But the left camber is -1 degree, and the right is -1.5 degree. And no camber adjusment
I'm not duplicating my responses.
Two threads on the exact same subject:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=851418

Need to combine!
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
Scan or post the final settings. Many say toe is good but they set it incorrectly and with those camber numbers within spec (-0.5/-1.5), that won't wear out the inside of the tire. That right rear is at the max, unusual for a stock suspension '07 car. How many miles? If you rub your palm around the inside of the tire, back and forth, is the tread feathered, not smooth, or smooth like the outside?

And why do you currently have 2 threads on the same subject? One in Tires, one in Problems. They should be combined.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=851419
Because, It's a problem and It's a tires question. Some people just check on problem& fix section. And some other people just check on tires and suspension section
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
I'm not duplicating my responses.
Two threads on the exact same subject:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=851418

Need to combine!
You don't have to, if you don't want it. You also can just response on just one. It's your choice.
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
I'm not duplicating my responses.
Two threads on the exact same subject:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=851418

Need to combine!
done.
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if you lowered your car i suggest get the kit from heeltoe, skunk 2 and the ingalls they work perfect. on my tls '08
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Tire wear could just be from previous owner didn't take care of the cars alignment. The car doesn't have to pull or steering wheel off center to have the toe to be outta spec and cause the premature wear. Alignments should be done at least 2x a year to prevent any tire wear specially if you live in a city with shitty roads like here in Philly.
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