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Old 05-25-2016, 01:03 PM
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Needing advice on replacing struts and strut mounts

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum. I've been having problems with my Acura lately.

I just took it to a shop and they gave it a look-over and quoted me 5600$ for everything. I started looking at the part prices and they were like 200-300% over what I've seen online. The rack and pinion rack he quoted was 800$!

I've decided to do this on my own. I'm an engineering tech and am very mechanically inclined.

First, I want to do the front struts and strut mounts. Is there a good DIY out there that indicates the tools I need Where should I order parts?

What total time am I looking at for a job like this?

Can I do it without a lift? (just with jack stands)

Can you guys give me a little direction? Here's the quote the guy gave me.
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jesus fucking christ... is the lube included in that price? that's fucking ridiculous...


You need to find a new shop to start... that's retarded.
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you think charging 5600 for stuff like that, they could afford a newer printer too..
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wow jesus christ. Id recommend buying all the parts on your own and if you dont have the time to do all the work then just give the parts to a shop and get charged the hourly rate. That parts markup is insane
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I see the mileage is 105k. have you done the 105k service? if you havent, consider the engine mounts at same time since you are already getting access to the pssenger side easily.
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well, look at that! our brand new "header" at the top of the page says "How-to's!"

Acura TL 2004 to 2008 How to Install Lowering Springs - Acurazine
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Yea, UlsterBoy13, I plan to do the mounts next. I want to get the springs done so I don't ruin the new tires I'm getting :/

The prices ARE outrageous. I wrote a scathing google review on these guys and told everyone to steer clear.
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Is the strut mount replacement pretty straight forward?
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You should post them here too so we know who to avoid as well
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It's called Scott's Automotive in Houston, TX

https://www.yelp.com/biz/scotts-auto-repair-houston
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Would I need a spring compressor if I'm installing the whole unit? Justnspace, your link was for swapping the spring. I need to swap the while strut/spring assembly.
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Originally Posted by glskinner84
Would I need a spring compressor if I'm installing the whole unit? Justnspace, your link was for swapping the spring. I need to swap the while strut/spring assembly.
Did you read through it..

how the heck did you think you would swap the spring without removing the whole assembly


just skip the part about decompressing the spring
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I'm not swapping just the springs. I'm buying coilovers... (struts with springs) this is why I'm asking for advice. Lol.

I also need new mounts. Can I purchase the whole assembly somewhere?
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I've seen oem strut assemblies that include the mount. It's all put together already. All you would need to do is bolt the top and the bottom at the damping fork. Is this a good solution?
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Ahh... They're called 'top hats'

You'll need spring compressor to remove those.


Same instructions
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Originally Posted by glskinner84
I've seen oem strut assemblies that include the mount. It's all put together already. All you would need to do is bolt the top and the bottom at the damping fork. Is this a good solution?
p.s. i'm in houston.

but its the same thing......



IF swapping springs isnt applicable to you, skip the part and then resume where it starts to explain how to install....

I know we're in the same city and all, but I'm going to need you to step it up!!
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like the top header says "HOW TO's!"

Click it and then click on suspension and it will give instructions!!

pretty easy!

Acura TL 2004 to 2008 How to Replace Struts and Shock Absorber Reviews - Acurazine
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Ha, Well, apparently the "top hats" don't need a compressor (from what I read online) but those are considerably more expensive, so why not take 5 minutes, compress the spring, and save a 100 bucks.

The DIY is easy to follow, I just wasn't too sure on what I needed for my case.

I guess my line of questioning was just feeling out what I have to do to replace these things. IE, strut/spring/mount purchasing.

I'm looking to buy within the next couple of days.
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This is what I'm talking about. No spring compressor needed. (since it's already mounted)

Now all I need to do is find these!
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yes, so if you are going with a full coilover set up; it should include shock and coils with top hats included.

I went with BC racing coilovers.
all i did was remove old shock and spring and installed new shock and spring as one unit.
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that vid shows the same instructions i linked....
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yea, that video is on the same page of your link, yes sir!

Thanks man.
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The complete assemblies are hard to find :/
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^only acura sells a complete shock and spring set.

or you can go to a complete aftermarket coilover system.
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Is OEM going to be a decent ride? I found this

2004 2006 Acura TL Left Front Strut Shock Assembly 51602 Sep A16 | eBay
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OEM is exactly what comes from the factory, it's stock.

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How many miles will I get out of oem?
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but i got 36,600 because i live dangerously
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Originally Posted by glskinner84
How many miles will I get out of oem?
oem is stock, straight from the Honda/Acura factory.

if you are riding around on stock oem shocks right now, you can expect the same mileage out of them
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Originally Posted by justnspace
oem is stock, straight from the Honda/Acura factory.

if you are riding around on stock oem shocks right now, you can expect the same mileage out of them
this guy, this guy right here....he's a saint!
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If I get the MT shocks, (sport edition) will it lower my car considerably? And, how would it affect the ride? I found some MT shocks on ebay for 110$, 50$ lower than the base on a parts site.
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Originally Posted by glskinner84
If I get the MT shocks, (sport edition) will it lower my car considerably? And, how would it affect the ride? I found some MT shocks on ebay for 110$, 50$ lower than the base on a parts site.
OEM MT shocks and springs take advantage of the sportiness of the manual trans and will be a bit stiffer than the automatic trim shocks and springs.
DOES NOT LOWER the vehicle, as its the same height as the automatic trim.
in the grand scheme of things, you will not notice the difference in stiffness from AT to MT, rather you will feel a difference from worn out shocks to brand new shocks
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Will the weight of the AT degrade the MT these MT springs faster?
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I emailed the guy that's selling the MT Shocks for $110 on Ebay, asking him if they were new shocks. His response:

"they were previously installed on a factory car and later taken out before the vehicle left the dealership. The new owner of the car left them behind because he upgraded to A spec struts."

Does this sound right? I thought A spec and MT were basically the same. Hrmm
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A-spec doesnt mean Manual Transmission. Crabman siad the Manual Transmission shocks were much different from the Automatic, not A-spec.
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Crabman, lol. I understand that they're different. But, performance wise? I'm just trying to see if this guy is full or crap or not. lol
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Originally Posted by glskinner84
Will the weight of the AT degrade the MT these MT springs faster?
springs will last a long long long time. a coiled piece of steel which is wrapped in a rubber coating.
probably will last longer than you or I will be alive.

shocks have gas in them and work to dampen or lessen the vibrations from the springs, using fluid dynamics.
shocks compress and rebound eventually wearing out the components inside.



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