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I can't find one anywhere. I have access to a lift tomorrow but I want to get this thing installed tonight. A DIY would be nice to see if I'm wasting my time flat backing it or if it's possible to be done without a lift. If anyone has a DIY, it would be very helpful. I'm going to get started on this thing right now in the driveway but I hope I have the clearance to get the bars out and in. I'll check back every hour or so. Thanks in advance.

rockstar143

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Dude you always offer so much insight to others, I really wish I had an answer for you. On the plus side I think it will be pretty apparent pretty quickly whether or not it's doable on jackstands. I have the service manual on disk but I'm at my GF's house right now. Anyone else have the scan to help him out?

Good luck!

pohljm

wish I had more information for you, but my understanding is that you need to drop the front sub frame enough to get the bar in. I would use the lift for sure.

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One word.... hell.

enigmaos

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front sway bar is a lot harder to reach and replace. not like rsb at all.

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Uhhh yeah. That's a bit obvious.

Got the stocker out. Need more ground clearance, need a lift.

deygotbigga

My boy is Level B tech for Acura and he installed my front H&R sway bar and had to drop the chasis, he said there's no other way, it took him an 1 hour and 1/2

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Just got done. A word of advice, if you value your sanity, don't try this in the dark on your back when you have to use the car to get to work the next day...

I found another screw up from the supposed repair shop that did my subframe. All that tire and road noise I've been complaining about may not have been the tire's fault. When I dropped the subframe, the passenger side is metal to metal, the rubber bushing was not put back in. That's the last time they screw me, I'm taking every legal action possible.

I reluctantly put it back together with no upper subframe bushing but I was scared to take it to the limit knowing it's not right even though it's been that way for months now.

The car has pretty much zero body roll. I mean, it has some if you really swerve back and forth hard but you would never feel any roll in normal hard driving. It's so much more responsive, I had to get used to the aggressiveness of the wheel. If feels like someone put a quicker ratio rack in there. I'm half asleep and completely exhausted so I'll have a better review tomorrow. Got to get up in 4 hours.

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Forgot, front and rear are in the soft settings. I can't imagine going to the firm settings.

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Last time I swear.

No squeaks.

What little instructions they had were wrong. It said part numbers go down toward the road and in reality they go up.

deygotbigga

The aggressive setting allows almost no body-roll even under hard swerving, but if you change it to that setting the bumps you feel on one side of the car will transfer to the other side (even with independent suspension) due to stiffness.

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I'm really feeling my age now. If feels like I got in a fight last night and lost badly.

This is a night and day difference. Now I can appreciate all the different reviews posted by TL-S owners with a similar bar. Going to Acura and then the bodyshop that left out the subframe bushing before I push anything. It felt as if it would be pretty neutral, I'm not ready to change any swaybar settings yet. After I'm able to really try it out, I'll leave it for a week or two to get a good feel for it before changing anything.

This is about as close to no body roll as you're going to get in a street car. I can't feel any roll at all when going around a corner hard, it's only in back and forth transitions that you would never do in real life that I can see a little roll. I have the front Konis .5 turns from full soft and it feels like I need a little more rebound stiffness with this bar. Still going to drive a week as is before making changes and the Koni stiffness will likely be my first change.

The best thing about this setup is I still have a lot of suspension travel, the car's not slammed like most with no roll.

deygotbigga

You should just go aggressive "I hate cars", you type like it doesn't bother you. My car is on the soft setting and it's not fair to my tires......lol

Keep us updated.

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It's going to be another learning curve. It corners very flat but I could take corners faster before the bar. It just understeers too much now. Going to go to the firm setting on the rear bar and if that's not enough, I'm going to start increasing the firmness of the rear shocks.