EvilJoker

excited...

$779 shipped

Excelerate

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Great Combo.

TheDingo

Nice!! Glad to see someone doing shocks and springs around here.

What made you choose this combo?

ATLS_666

where did you buy?

BSpecialist

Just bought the same exact combo. $718 shipped...if a site says they will price match, make them price match.

Legitka9

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Awwww shoot!!!! I have the same setup and its awesome!!!! You will enjoy this guaranteed but make sure to install it correctly!!!

EvilJoker

I have had 11 Camaros and all of them Z28 except for one '67 RS... 4 of them (3rd gens) had Koni shocks and Eibach sports springs. I wanted to lower the TL a little and stiffen the ride a little. The H&R sports had the lowering range I was looking for and they are still a progressive rate spring so they are still comfortable under normal road conditions... and I have never been disaapointed by Koni.

shox.com... was gonna order from tirerack but shox was cheaper

YOU HUSH!!!! lol

Steven Bell

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EJ, you'll like the H&R's. When I need shocks, I'll get Koni's too.

EvilJoker

I figured it wal a good time because the Koni shocks are 20% off everywhere right now until June 30th... and that is like $100 off total...

I'm all about the deals... lol

For anyone that already has Koni shocks, what setting are you running? I want about 25-50% stiffer over stock... and are you using the lowest perch setting?

Legitka9

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Middle perch on full stiff with H&R Sports. 5at

Love It.

Excelerate

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Give us a call or shoot us a PM and we'll put pricing together for you.

JTS97Z28

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So im looking at this picture and trying to figure out why it looks different than my setup even though we both have the same new H&R Sports. So that appears to be a picture of the rear assembly, but comparing to a picture I took of mine from a post I made, do we have our springs oriented 180 degrees differently? Call me crazy, but it appears you have your spring installed upside down. I have no clue if this makes a difference, but you would think it does. Compare your picture to mine from the exact same side. I have the large spaced coils on the bottom (how the stock springs were oriented and H&R letters right side up, you have the tightly spaced coils on the bottom with H&R letters upside down).

geekybiker

That's because yours are installed correctly. At least according to HR. Not sure it makes much of a difference though.

geekybiker

Youch. Full stiff around here? You must have a strong back.

Legitka9

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Oh shit I might have to check this out after work!

Slpr04UA6

Yes. Legitka it looks like they are upside down, in the rear. We (I) posted this in another thread. I thought you swapped them, but maybe not. On my car the tighter coils are at the top.

Full stiff?! Yeah, that's gotta be rough. I've only had mine full stiff for a few miles, then back to 1 1/4 turns from full soft. Still messing with the damping.....

Legitka9

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Thanks for the good eye guys. One of my springs indeed were Upside down. What a noob mistake!

i_love_cars

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as long as you get to flipping it back over without putting many miles on it, there should be no problem. Luckily it's not a part that will blow out instantly.

BSpecialist

I can't remember where I usually see the dead coils. With my B+G springs on my probe I'm pretty sure the dead coils were at the bottom...on my brother's mustang (with H&Rs) I think they were at the top. I think I'd probably assume that they should be installed with the brand name right side up.

I've also read on these forums that running full soft (on the Koni's) is best for the break-in period or 1000 miles. When I install mine, I plan on running middle/high perch (f/r) for the shocks while I break them in. If i want it lower after settling/break-in, I will drop the front perch and rear perch accordingly and stiffen up the shocks.

Also, I purchased everything from tunersports dot com, he price matched the springs from thmotorsports dot com and had a sick discount on the Koni's plus the SpringSavings discount code.

Legitka9

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Fixed!

TheLowLife

much better

EvilJoker

There is NO "break in" for Koni shocks. They are ready to go on whatever setting you want. Koni only "suggests" starting out on full soft until you get an idea of where you want them set.

I hate cars

Most people that use Koni or just about any shock in the racing world break them in on full soft. You're breaking the sealing rings in easier with less pressure and you're breaking in the full rod travel before putting them on firm.

Those of you going full stiff on mild springs like the H&Rs are not improving performance, you're just making it ride unnecessarily uncomfortably. The firmness should be matched to the spring rate. When I had stock springs I very rarely had them more than 1/4 of the way up. It was too much damping and would cause the car to skip over bumps at the limit above 1/4. With a spec springs I turned them up a little. Now that my springs are significantly stiffer especially the rears, I run the shocks a little over halfway in the rears, about halfway in the fronts. They were fine tuned to give the turn-in that I prefer. Even when I used to track it I never put them on full firm.

The best way to set them is to take the car to a stretch of road that has some bumps and stiffen unit it begins skipping over the bumps (while cornering hard) with the tires losing contact with the asphalt because the shocks are over damping. If stiff enough, especially with stock springs you can have the car "jack down" under braking but especially over bumps.

Slpr04UA6

^I have yet to figure out what spring rate the H&R sports are.? Do they compare at all with the a-spec springs? Stiffer? Softer? I have the Koni's set at 1 1/4 F, 1 1/2 R from full soft. Rides pretty good, but have read a lot about the "jacking down" effect. I don't think I am experiencing this yet, but am in for any info you can provide!

I hate cars

I can't remember but there was a thread back around '07 that had a lot of spring rates including a-spec.

Jacking down is when the rebound stiffness is so high in comparison to the springs that if the car hits a series of bumps quickly the spring compresses but doesn't have time to decompress before the next bump due to the shock holding it back. The next bump hits and compresses it even more and so on. The car literally "jacks down" to the bumpstops sometimes. It doesn't happen easily, the shocks have to be seriously over damping the springs and chassis but Konis on full firm and stock or near stock is a likely candidate.

You'll feel the car wanting to skip over bumps instead of absorbing them. If you've ever driven a RWD car with a live axle around corners even a little hard you'll know what I mean. My turbo car's rear end will skip slightly when I hit bumps mid corner even though it's not near it's limit. It's the tires losing contact as they bounce over bumps and momentarily lose contact with the road. If the car feels twitchy over bumps when you're cornering harder than normal you might want to soften the shocks.

What you want from your shocks is no excess body or suspension movement. You want the car to take a set in a corner as quickly as possible. The springs and swaybars determine body roll, the shocks determine how quickly it makes it to fully body roll and stabilizes, the point at which the car has settled into the corner. Once you've achieved this, additional damping won't help much other than to fine tune it's behavior. Stiffer springs, heavier cars, and heavier unsprung mass needs more damping.

geekybiker

Wow, folks are running a bunch stiffer than me. IRC, I'm running a little over a half turn both front and rear. Rear is slightly stiffer. I had them about one turn in on the fronts and it was getting harsh over larger bumps.

paperboy42190

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thank goodness james noticed the upside down spring lol

Legitka9

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Haha yes! I thank him for that!

Frosty

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I have the H&R Sport Springs, Koni Yellows, and Ingalls Rear Camber + Toe Kit waiting to be installed this coming week, and I cannot decide where i should set the perch for front and rear. Im either gonna do medium for both, low for front and medium for rear, or low for both. What do most people do with the Konis?

Legitka9

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I'd just leave them in the middle where they come. It sits excellent. The front dropped lower on the konis than on the stock shocks.