paperboy42190

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just a question for those of you who have installed the ingalls rear camber kit.

i have the ingalls rear camber kit on my car and i was wondering if i installed it correctly. does the longer stick go on the bottom (camber arm) or the side(toe arm)? and also 1 more question, there are different kind of bushings on each stick, one of them is fatter and one is skinnier. which one goes where? i have noticed that the toe arm where it connects at the spindle doesnt sit flush the the bushing is being pressed awkwardly. i tried switching the sticks around and the since one of the bushings is fatter, it wont fit in the other side so this was the only way i could install it, however something just doesnt seem right....

any ideas?

or do you guys need an actual picture to understand what im talking about?

paperboy42190

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just re-read the instructions from ingalls to install it and im pretty sure i did it right, however i'll take a pic in a few days to show you guys what i mean when the bushing is pressed awkwardly.

CaliWowie

yeah man Im lookin to install mine this week! and i noticed that out of the box too...

im pretty sure i can picture what ur talkin about..does both side look wierd? alignment yet?

jwr0ng626

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did u compare lengths to stock arms after u pulled both out?

I can take pics of mine and send it over if u want

paperboy42190

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the length is fine and all....i'll take pics this weekend so show u guys what im talking about

paperboy42190

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this is what im talking about, it doesnt sit flush.

murph145

hmmm interesting i am guna be installing mine this weekend too so i wonder how my install will go

kingkong_dav

why r you adding a aftermarket camber kit. there is no adjustment on the rear camber better yet the front too. just set the toe to zero and your set. are you getting uneven wear on your tires? whats the deal? consult your acura dealer for mods next time, treat your acura tl right and quit trying to rice it out

murph145

^ omg dude dont post in other peoples threads a camber kit is used if you lower your car.... you dont need to but you can add one since the tl has no adjustable camber.

lowering the tl does not make it riced out stick with your stock acura and take yours to the dealer for your mods

anx1300c

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Umm yeah, ok.


I need to order the Ingall's myself. L/R isn't too bad at ~ 1.5, but the R/R is noticeable at ~ 2.1 and I don't like the look.

murph145

yea my rear is at -3 but i want to go a lil lower and dont like the extreme camber look nor the wear of the tires so im guna go a lil lower and have the camber set around -2 with the inglas

jwr0ng626

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hence the camber kit to CORRECT camber + toe. He's an engineer... hes not dumb

paperboy42190

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lol if you look at his posts, a lot of them are pretty dumb.

so anyone have any insight on why it doesnt sit flush? if no one has any ideas then thats ok, im perfectly fine with it seeing as how it drives perfectly fine and perfectly align-able.

murph145

i have no idea once i get mine on i will let you know what my experiences are

paperboy42190

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cool thanks!

CaliWowie

Install this thursday...but gotta question...i assembeld the ingalls today in my room and noticed that each bar would only let the one bushing with a black locking ring on one side and the other silver locking ring on the other...the pic up there looks like the black locking ring goes on the spindle side....just want to make sure thats what yall are doin...

mrlal8

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hahahhahaha
dealers guna be REAL happy modding his car

paperboy42190

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take a pic to show me what you mean. by the way ingalls has a DIY on their website if you want to double check

SharksBreath

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yours looks fine. it's an aftermarket camber kit...nothing will be as flush as your original OEM parts. mine looks just like yours, you're good to go.

i do not believe it matters which way you install it. silver or black. i installed mine with the silver nut towards the outside, black nut on the inside. just make sure when you install it, that both sides have an equal amount of threads between each one...that way when you go to adjust them later...you have plenty of play on each side.

i'm getting my alignment done today since i installed coilovers over the weekend. i can try and take pics if it'll help.

CaliWowie

^thanks homie!


aww man i installed em before i saw ur reply...i took a picture through my rim and put it in my album...

but yeah theres the bar and theres the bushings u thread into the bar..on each one theres a locking ring. one has silver and on has a black locking nut...after reading more on the site i installed em with the silver ones pointing outboard

MrHeeltoe

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Hey guys! Someone alerted me of this thread and I am here to answer any and all questions that have come up.


The bushing is not supposed to sit flush against the suspension knuckle. There is a metal collar in the middle of the bushing that you tighten down on. This installation looks perfect to me. And I have installed a countless number of these kits.

The extreme camber look is a reason to get a camber kit. The tire wear is a much lesser reason...tire wear from camber is so minimal is borders on negligible.

It makes absolutely positively most definitely no difference whatsoever what nut goes on what side. Peace of mind, precaution, or preference play no part at all. The only reason the nuts are different colors are because one is a left hand thread and one is a right hand thread and it helps you visually see they are different.

abracing

my camber on the passenger right side is -1.9, after an alignment done so the mechanic recommended a adj. camber kit. since you say tire wear is neligible then i dont need one right? sorry for the off topic question.

edsfedup

hi guys. my ingalls kit just came in from excelerateperformance. i'm impressed with the overall quality. also pleased with xlr8's service/shipping.

like what mrheeltoe said it shouldnt matter which ends get mounted where,
but it changes the direction you have to turn the rod to adjust it longer or shorter.
install this weekend. any advice is appreciated. thanks.

paperboy42190

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thanks very much! i feel a bit better knowing its installed correctly

MrHeeltoe

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Yea with the toe angle corrected you are totally fine.

No problem

CubanLynx84

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I got mine in too today thanks to Marcus @ HT!! I didn't realize it was 2 arms per side though which arm is which?

edsfedup

installed in about 2 hours. pretty straightforward. it was as easy as the RSB.
i haven't gotten an alignment yet.

a few comments:

1. i put on more than 10K miles on my BFgoodrich with a little more than -2.0 degrees camber and i did notice the inner blocks worn down more than the rest of the tire.

2. my wheels are closer to zero camber now, and from what i can tell the fenderwell gap has increased to about the same gap as the front (eibach pro kit). wondering if anyone else has noticed this?

3. i'm thinking of replacing the cam bolt on the control arm to something more permanent since it will no longer be used for adjustments. thoughts?

4. fyi regarding adjustments: as you increase camber (more positive), wheels will toe in and vice versa.

5. loctite on the jam nuts, is it necessary?

jwr0ng626

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^looks very helpful

and damn, thats alotta rust for being an SD car

CubanLynx84

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That pic right there is very helpful thanks for posting it up!!

edsfedup

i'm in the worst place on earth now. north chicago, illinois.

no problem fellas.

MrHeeltoe

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Read your INSTRUCTIONS! Answers all install questions.

1. Did you ever align the car after lowering?

2. This is entirely dependent on where you set the arms when you put them in. You will need an alignment to see where it is really going to end up. Any height change determination can only be made after rolling the car, too...

3. Not necessary at all. Nor is it recommended by me.

4. Correct, which is why you don't wanna mess w it without an alignment machine

5. Absolutely not necessary at all. Not recommended either.

nokiaboy808

does anyone know if you can use the ingalls rear toe arms only or do you need to use the camber arms also to make this work properly? reason is, i already have a megan camber kit that replaces the arm that has a ball joint at the end of it.

robertran88

I am looking for Ingalls too, where did you purchase these from?

jwr0ng626

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can get em from heeltoeauto . com

pinina

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Good info

Silverstacker1

Is the installation of that camber kit as easy as it looks? Don't you just unbolt each end of the arms and bolt up the new ones? I just want to do this myself before I get my car aligned. One last question, I am lowering my TL with Tein S. Tech this weekend. Should I drive it around for a few days so the springs can settle before I get the alignment done?

Excelerate

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It's fairly straightforward if the bolts aren't frozen. Go to www.ingallseng.com and put in part # 38725. There are instructions on the website.

sauceja

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How has everyone been getting the toe cam bolt out? I have always had to cut them off with a cut off wheel and just install new bolt. Not too excited about doing that again if I don't have to.

sockr1

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I just did this install this weekend. I sprayed wd-40 liberally and let it sit for about 30 min and then put wrenches on both sides and loosened. The bolt came out easy and I did that first before the spindle side. But then again I'm in San Diego and don't see crazy weather conditions to rust up. Good luck with installation!

sauceja

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Yeah I live in New Mexico where it is dry year round. But unfortunately I bought this car from New York.

Guess I will be cutting. Found some good threads last night searching this.

I will have to just use a regular bolt for now though just to move my car in the garage until I can order the bolt and get it in. Closest Honda dealer is 2 hours away. Acura dealer is 4 hours away.