I have an Ingalls rear camber kit for my tl and after reading alot of posts on here alot of people seem not to like the rubber bushings in them, so i was wondering if anyone has replaced the bushing with spherical bearings?

 

I've had on my car for bout 2 years now, no issues

 

We have sold a number of these kits and haven't received negative feedback. Compared to other camber kits we feel the Ingalls kits are a superior product. Depending on the kit they can offset up to 3 degrees of camber, and are available with either rubber or polyurethane bushings.

Ingalls Alignment Kit - Excelerate Performance - Japanese and European Performance Specialists!!

 

Is that the front kit you made a link for because im talking about the rear kit.

 

That was a general link to the Ingalls kits so you can type in your vehicle info and see all the ones available.

Here is a link to the rear kit:
Ingalls Alignment Kit - Excelerate Performance - Japanese and European Performance Specialists!!

This kit is great because you can adjust camber and toe.

 

right you can but thats where some of the posts ive read have had the problems, does ingalls offer the polyurethane bushings for the rear kit?

 

Ingals has reportedly changed the bushing (which is an acknowledgement that they knew there was an issue). Whether or not the new bushing is better... only time will tell.

I shied away from the Ingals kit because of the numerous reported problems with the bushings (here on Azine and other Honda/Acura boards). I installed the SPC rear camber arms instead and they are great, no complaints. Less than $150 shipped. Easy DIY.

 

I stand corrected. After speaking with my supervisor we did have a few cases where people had problems. The incidents were limited in scope and Ingalls addressed the issue.

 

Do you know if ingalls is doing anything for customers that already have the kit?

 

I doubt it. It wasn't a serious issue and they'd lose a lot of money by doing so

 

Do you know if anyone has removed the bushings in the arms and put in spherical bearings instead?

 

I doubt it. I dont think anyone makes a spherical bushing replacement

 

Someone made a custom arm using the OEM bushings welded onto the adjustable Ingalls arms. Do a search in one of the Ingalls problems threads, it's there.

 

I doubt there will be many who will go that route though as its pretty extreme

 

We have been able to successfully resolve any complaints that came up with the bushings. Although we have sold hundreds of Ingalls kits, less than 1% reported anything negative back to us at all. We continue to stock and support Ingalls as the #1 rear camber kit for this platform.
Ingalls Rear Lower Arm Camber / Toe Kit, ONE SIDE, 2004-08 Acura TL & TL-S UA6 UA7, 38725 - HeelToe Automotive

 

DO NOT INSTALL THE INGALLS ARMS. What the sellers tell you are always different than someone who has used them for years.

You have a true testament here from me with an 07 Accord V6 lowered only 1" on HFP suspension. The camber is adjusted to -1.2 degree which is within specification, heck my stock arms gave -1.5 degree. The rear toe is always a little positive despite several alignments over the past 3 years, I have alignment sheets to prove this. Without rotating the tires for about 10000 miles 2 years ago, the rear inside edges of the rear tires cupped. I originally thought it was a rack problem at NTB, so I started going to Honda for alignment, but the same problem persists. The bushings are too soft. Because of this, I am constantly rotating tires every 5000 miles. On top of the toe problem, the Ingalls arms do not stand up to the elements, the arms rusted within a year with paint flaking off in LARGE pieces, now the entire mid section of the arms are completely exposed. The toe also moves whenever the forward lower control arm is adjusted just a little bit.

I just recently acquired the SPC arms and the build quality is WAY BETTER with the same spherical bushing design as OEM Honda arms. VERY BEEFY ARMS. I will be reverting back to the 2 stock lower control arms and install the upper SPC arms soon.

 

t-rd

1) How old is your Ingalls kit? How old is the HFP kit?
2) Where did you buy it?
3) Did you email your dealer or Ingalls for support?

 

They did update their product line, exactly what they modified I'm not sure.

As Marcus said there are some key things that may have caused you to get a bad kit. You may have picked up one of the older kits that were updated. If you purchased it from a 3rd party like Ebay, it may be a poor quality replica sold as an Ingalls kit. You would also have the support of a vendor to resolve the issue if you purchased it from one of the vendors on here which is what I would recommend.

 

- 3 years old. IT IS and older kit, but not a replica kit from Ebay. I have the original Ingalls instruction sheet.
- honestly don't recall where I got them but I can find out from a receipt
- never contacted dealer or Ingalls for support

Because the installation was so involved originally having to chop off the fused eccentric bolts (i live in Chicago), I'm not going down that route again to find out that Ingalls still has an issue. I'm still going ahead with the SPC changeover.

There was obviously a problem, which caused the bushing or design change.

 

Thanks for the responses, sir! If you find out the parts came from Heeltoe let me know!