GeeCastle

So I'm looking in to buys some ht spec coilovers and I was on heeltoe automotive and I saw they have a spring grade or somthing like that and I saw the option of the standard asain supply and eibach and I wanted to know if there's a difference between the two. I'm still in the learning process so id really appreciate any help.

LoveMyTL-S

Anyone??

EATSLEEPRACE

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DONT BUY THEM YOU WILL REGRET IT!

There is way better choice out there...

GeeCastle

Really? I've always heard good things about them. It was either between those or megans an I'm going for the hellaflush look so I want some coilovers that will let me go low an I did a lot of searching an megans an ht specs look like they went the lowest

paperboy42190

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if you are looking to slam it for hellaflush then megans and ht spec coils are the way to go. however for good quality shocks that handle and ride well you will need to go a better coil like tein ss, buddy clubs, bc racing, or a shock/spring setup like koni yellows

GeeCastle

Thanks! Yea an I mean I know any ride that's dropped 3in or more is goin to ride like shit so I'm prepared for it. I was goin to get ht specs but I know coilovers is one of those "you get what you pay for" type things an ht specs are cheapbut I was on a thread heeltoe posted an they rated ht specs higher then megans so idk which to go with.

jwr0ng626

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if all you care about is slamming... you won't need the upgraded springs.

EATSLEEPRACE

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U want slammed 3" or more with quality isc n1 ...Megan's and f&f are the same "garbage"

GeeCastle

Oh ok thanks yea I didn't really know what the difference waswith the two springs

Alright thanks bro ill look in to them.

MrHeeltoe

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Well, that is absolutely not true at all.

Megan and F2 are not the same, and frankly neither are garbage...

Frankly, I'd like to know what is so much better about ISC as well...other than they are "new."

MrHeeltoe

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The standard springs are sort of basic ones that have a little less quality than what the Eibach offers. The Eibach springs are more accurate and consistent. Frankly, about 1% of people get the EIbach option. Most all people get the standard springs.


Now can I ask howcome you didn't ask us directly in an email or call? Just curious.

MrHeeltoe

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We have evaluated the Teins and for going really low the SS is a really BAD recommendation. They will not lower that much.

Megan is really no different that BC as far as our research goes. In fact when BC came out a number of years back many were stating that they were really the same as D2 and K-Sport. Then Megan came and frankly I am not sure what the difference between any of them is, and the major choice comes from picking your favorite color.

Function Form produces the HTSpec kits, and we have found really no major issues with them at all, and have even had the opportunity to revise and improve the kit over time. The custom tuning we do really does make them the best choice for a low cost, low riding, decently comfortable system that can hand some pretty aggressive driving!

Marcus

rockstar143

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if you really wanna slam it and have a smooth ride, I'd suggest just cutting 4 coils off your stock coil springs...

EATSLEEPRACE

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F&f (same sh*t ht spec),can't handle a pothole without blowing a shock!...that's the difference .....!!!!!!!

F&f sends you adjusting wrenches you can't use because they wont work!...oh yeah don't forget the cheap plastic dust boots....

Predatorbird

Marcus, can you clarify what exactly ht-spec means? Are the ones you sell any different than if I were to buy directly from f&f. I understand you played a part in the valving in the shocks, but does f&f make special coils specially for you to sell?

EATSLEEPRACE

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NOPE!....same thing

Everyone is confused what ht spec means...is not a brand!....it's more like a stamp on a product they have tested and believe in it....

Not sure if it standing by f&f was a good idea.....

MrHeeltoe

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HTSpec in a nutshell means we (HeelToe) have investigated, used, and confirmed that said part is a good part to run for a given set of needs. I guess you could say "Heeltoe Approved." In many cases we am using HTSpec parts on my very own HTSpec sponsored cars.

In the case of the HTSpec damper kit, we have made special customizations to the normal Function Form damper. Don't listen to Eatsleeprace because he doesn't know what the *bunnies* he is talking about. The regular Function Form kit for this car rides like crap and the front end sways and bobs with a stiff breeze. We have re-spec'd their standard kit and revised the preload recommendation to make the same kit handle and ride about 1000x better then before. Best of all, they cost the same.

Marcus
949-295-1668

GeeCastle

Oh ok I see now. Thanks that really helped. An It didn't come to mind.

EATSLEEPRACE

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^^^ it's the same sh*t dude!!!!!

They ship out the f&f wharehouse!.....


THERE IS NO 2 different f&f Coilover nor different part numbers......

EATSLEEPRACE

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He just said they ride like shit!!!!!!......and because he tells you he revolved them and sets the pre -load its a night and day difference mean while try don't come set at all and you still have to do yourself.....

MrHeeltoe

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The HTSpec and Function Form kits are different. You are trying to tell people they are the same and it simply is not true. If you have not ridden on both I think you have no place to say they are the same.

GeeCastle

Well I've never heard bad things about them an I'm really diggin the price so I might order some within a few months so I can save some money up an I want to run some negative camber would I need a camber kit as well?

CLtotheTL32

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^It depends how much camber you're looking to run. Usually you're good without a camber kit up to around -1.5 degrees. Anything over that I would suggest getting adjustable camber arms.

I have Ingalls camber arms in the rear and they are great! I didn't necessarily NEED them but I wanted to be more safe than sorry.

GeeCastle

I want to run somewhere between -5&-10 in the rear. Do the camber arms come with the camber kit or is that somthing totally different?

CLtotheTL32

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WHAT?!?! Between -5 and -10?!?!?! Why the hell so much? What are your wheel specs?

This is -8.5 and while I'm a fan of the stanced scene, it's just too much...

GeeCastle

Holy shit that's 8.5! Yea nvm ill probably just go with 5 in the back maybe less haha cause that 8.5 is already bad but looks good also. An well right now I'm riding on stockies 17s so I don't have anything sppecial yet.

EATSLEEPRACE

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At the time I bought mines from you!...SMH

Predatorbird

I just noticed the coupon code works too on top of the sale. I might be placing an order before the end of the month.

GeeCastle

WHAT CUPON CODE??? Lol

Predatorbird

Look at the bottom of mrheeltoe's sig...

rockstar143

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looks like that negative camber dude just had his tires flipped...

96cd5

I think the "swoosh" code will give you more of a discount than the "acurazinerocks" code.

MrHeeltoe

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Welll I have to say that must have been a bit ago because we have made revisions and things that as far as I know have addressed concerns people had. And yes a couple people did get new shocks in that time. Maybe you wanna try again? See if they are not better now?

I am amazed someone flipped those for that guy.

Predatorbird

Thanks, it is a bigger savings

rockstar143

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Right?!?!?! I've heard that very recently the laws changed and most places won't even rotate and put your GOOD tires on the front, even if you ask. They REQUIRE you to get new tires.

He must have a friend...

sixsixfour

I personally have the Type 1 Version 2 for over a year now. I've had my share of bad roads (potholes and all) here in socal, so I can attest that the HT-Spec V2s are holding up quite well. the improvements that Marcus mentioned may have something to do with it, but that being said, I never rode or drove on a Type 1 Version 1, so I don't know with certainty how those rode.

All I know is ive driven quite hard (unknowingly) over rough potholes and railroads along my route and I've never had any issues.

GeeCastle

Sweeet! Thanks guys

GeeCastle

How much of a savings we talking cause now I'm very tempted hahah

ebelp

It should also be noted that your car is very modestly lowered on these coilovers, whereas the OP wants to run his car slammed. This will obviously play a role in the life of the shocks, however, it's good to hear that they have still survived all the potholes.

sixsixfour

thats what I am noticing too with anyone complaining about the durability of these (or any) coilovers. i think if i run slammed too i would not be surprised if I hit just one pothole and break something.

sure that would speak about the quality and durability of these coilovers, but again, for the price you cannot expect it to survive really bad roads with very little free play before the shocks bottom out. some kits may, some might not.

there are also other variables that we dont have like how fast were the potholes and bumps being negotiated? were they at full speed? do they slow down? how big/bad were the potholes? how "slammed" or lowered were they?