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Old 03-20-2006, 01:23 PM
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How many people want new springs?

I've talked to a rep over at Hypercoils to potentially making a lowering springs for the TL market. The drop will be at 1.2F, and 1.0R. This is a perfect for those who want a bit more than just the A-spec.

If this thread shows enough interest, I will go ahead with all the arrangements for a full group buy thread.
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How much??
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Why not get Comptech Sport Spring?

You will retain your warranty.
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Hi All -

I am Rick Crist, and I would be the Hypercoils Representative aznbo187 / Michael Yu is talking about.

As an Independent Motorsports broker, I contract through companies like Hyperco < http://www.hypercoils.com/ > to fill the vacancy on niche, small market order needs to communities like yours - where others opt not or take a pass based on overall profitability.

From my initial contact response e-mail to Michael;

“Use your request as example; It's not that Hyperco won't build what you want, they will, just not to the extent of how you might think of it. It comes down to companies like Hyperco not having the time to invest on smaller - less profitable orders, gathering the needed data to produce the product, keeping up to date with the forum buzz, traffic and so on. Thus, they send the request onto me, and they build it for me as a private label product with the exclusive rights to the product. Even if a customer calls them direct wanting to order what they make for me, they still send the customer back to me. It works out well for both sides.”

Michael put it back to me as kind of like a middle man in-between the internet, and not so significant community, and the direct manufacturer. Which is somewhat correct, other than I absorb more of the cost related issues than the normal middle man would, just facilitating the ordering of “Stock” off the shelf items for you in a GB. I specialize in custom, where a typical middle man is off the shelf in most cases.

Please take a look at the following link and you will get a good picture of how all of this works, and can work. < http://www.sr20forum.com/showthread.php?t=136627 > Note, this is sales round 4 and will make some 250+ sets of Hyperco springs sold to the Nissan community market over the last 4 or so years. (also do a search on the sr20forum for Hyperco B13 Gen2 springs and Hyperco B14 springs.)

How I would like to proceed with you guys and gals at this point -

1.) Feedback and Interest - Casual conversation and questions here will set the tone if the demand for a custom spring is needed. This is straightforward and we will all find out rather quickly if it is a ‘Go’ / ‘No Go’ situation.

2.) Safety and Liability relating to Performance - Ride Height, Rate, Lowering are ALL major safety and liability issues and concerns when manufacturing a custom sport lowering spring with real quantified Performance characteristics. This is FIRST and FOREMOST, no exceptions, no short cuts !! If it’s a Safe and Reliable custom sport lowering spring, I’m your guy. If the ‘thought in ones mind’ on Ride Height, Rate, Lowering and Performance is not safe to the design Engineer at Hyperco, and not safe to build or sell, I would certainly not be your guy on this project. This part will be compromises, with give and take needed in the engineering design process.

We are talking about a CUSTOM spring being built for your wants and needs, and built by the World Wide spring manufacturer leader in the Motorsports industry… not an ‘off the shelf’ item manufactured by others. A little background on Hyperco.

With a History of Unrivaled Success...

Hyperco is a supplier of high performance suspension components for all levels of the motor racing industry. The Hyperco product line includes suspension coils (Hypercoils), Hydraulic load centering Spring Perches and Composite Leaf Springs. Hyperco specializes in the development and optimization of these products for the motor racing industry. Hyperco components are utilized by championship winning teams world wide- NASCAR Nextel Cup, Formula One, Indy Racing League, SCCA, NASCAR Busch series, NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series, Grass Roots Oval Track, Endurance Sports Cars, Off Road, Motorcycles "Hyperco components are a part of winning from Late Models to Nextel Cup"...Formula Ford to Formula One, (Hypercoils have been utilized by every Indianapolis 500 winner since 1965).

At Hyperco, our focus is always on innovation. Always researching. Always developing. Testing new ways to improve performance. In fact, we’re not just coiling springs, we’re engineering suspension coils, along with other components that ultimately offer racers our Performance Advantage.

While other companies offer springs as a part of their expanding product line, Hyperco’s focus is on high performance suspension coils. We recognize that the balance and the handling of any race car must be at its optimum for winning results. That’s why we’re dedicated to being the source, world wide, for high performance suspension coils. Customers can be assured we are not distracted by other products; trying to be all things to all people. Our team of specialists continually work to realize a component that is at its absolute state-of-the-art potential for every application and environment. We continue to combine the finest engineers and craftsmen with the latest manufacturing technology in the industry. We utilize the latest in design and performance simulation software, along with multi axis rate and load testing equipment to measure overall dynamic performance.

What’s more, Hyperco manufactures from materials that are not found in a mill’s standard inventory. This allows our engineers to design suspension coils to optimum specifications with the largest variety of wire diameters available today. We also manufacture from a wide variety of materials including ultra high tensile chrome silicon, micro alloys, titanium, alloy steels and stainless. Multiple magnaflux inspections, before and after coiling, are used to ensure the wire is free from surface imperfections which, undetected, could lead to spring failure.

Collectively, this combination of professionals and resources affords Hyperco a versatile, innovative facility and, most importantly, it’s earned us the ability to offer the racing world consistent performance, exclusive technological advancements and reliability. What’s more, from coil-over and conventionals to specialty and custom, Hyperco also works with race teams one-to-one, to develop custom and proprietary products. As a result, more and more teams are benefiting from the Performance Advantage found only with Hyperco suspension coils. That’s why Hyperco is the world wide leader in high performance suspension coils and related components.


As with the success of the Nissan forum Hyperco GB‘s, a CUSTOM sport lowering spring is not for everyone, and I as well as Hyperco know this going in with this first posting. Some opt for purchasing the best possible CUSTOM sport lowing spring with-in ones budget, some don’t. As a consumer myself at the end of the day, I understand both sides very well.

With that said, I need to locate a 2004/2006 Acura TL for inspection by the engineering department at Hyperco to get the ball rolling from this end. You guys and gals need to get some feedback and conversations going here …… And I need to know what, if any, are the other Acura or Honda vehicles WORLD WIDE that are on the same platform as the 2004/2006 Acura TL ? Why ? You will get world wide response and demand for this spring once it is produced and people figure out it is the best.

Keep me in the loop -

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Old 03-20-2006, 07:16 PM
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I believe the 04-06 honda accord has similar/same suspension setup.
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As well as 04-up TSXs.

However, if you're talking about springs, I believe all of them have different length of springs. I don't know about Accord I4 or TSX. I do know that the same aftermarket springs will lower the Accord V6 more than the TL. It indicates that the Accord has longer (and possibly more suspension travel, too) OEM springs than the TLs.
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Originally Posted by Boartman
Why not get Comptech Sport Spring?

You will retain your warranty.
any aftermarket parts will not void your warranty unless the dealer can prove that because you installed this aftermarket part, it lead to whatever being failed. i've bent dealers over many times in the past with the cars i've had...the law is your friend, use it wisely.
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I see the proposed vendor has already posted here, so some of the following may not apply, but the rules in general apply so I will post it as I usually do in these threads about a potential Group Buy.

THE OFFICIAL GROUP BUY RULES

It is all right for you to run this feeler thread and find out how many people will be interested in this.

You should contact the vendor and find out how many people he would need in order to establish prices and specifications.

When you reach that minimum, you can let him know and he would have to contact astroboy by email at robb(at)acurazine(dot)com to make arrangements to become a vendor and post in the Sponsored Sales & Group Buys forum.

That would start the ball rolling, and each interested member could visit the Sponsored Sales & Group Buys forum to arrange for purchase and delivery.

We would appreciate it if you would not attempt to circumvent these procedures, since they are designed both for your protection and to provide revenue to this forum so it can continue to serve all the members.
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Rob / Ron A./ Adam or the forum owner proprietor - Would one of you please drop me an e-mail with your direct contact phone number as I do not want to be circumventing forum procedures and I want all of us on the same page. Hopefully I did not overstep any boundaries as that was not my intent.

Thanks kindly -

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Originally Posted by Rick Crist
Rob / Ron A./ Adam or the forum owner proprietor - Would one of you please drop me an e-mail with your direct contact phone number as I do not want to be circumventing forum procedures and I want all of us on the same page. Hopefully I did not overstep any boundaries as that was not my intent.

Thanks kindly -

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Actually, astroboy is taking care of this now. I sent him a PM to contact you directly with the information you requested.

So far this is going well, and your post didn't violate any of the rules or guidelines instituted for a proposed Group Buy.
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Originally Posted by Boartman
Why not get Comptech Sport Spring?

You will retain your warranty.
What he said. Thats what I have.
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