High mileage drivers (30k+ yearly) which tires do you have?
#1
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High mileage drivers (30k+ yearly) which tires do you have?
I drive around 35k-40k miles a year and will be needing some new tires here soon. I have a 2008 Type S and it seems from what I've read the continentals are a popular choice. Any suggestions for a high mileage driver? I live in SF Bay Area so snow is not a concern. I just want my tires to last as much as possible and still have some good handling in wet and dry conditions. Thanks!
#5
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+1 for Toyo. I had the Toyo Versado LX when I still had my Acura RL. Very comfy tire and hardly any treadwear after 40,000 miles.
I also had them for a Toyota Avalon (but they changed to Toyo Versado LX II) and they are just starting to become worn out at 70,000 miles.
I also had them for a Toyota Avalon (but they changed to Toyo Versado LX II) and they are just starting to become worn out at 70,000 miles.
#6
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Sorry to say they only have a 400 UTQG, but if one wants tire that will go a long way, take a look on the TireRack site and search by the UTQG value.
You'll find tires in the 700 range that should equate to a great many miles, however, different cars along with various driving habits will dictate the longevity. Have GY Comfortred on our knock around car, changed them at 77k miles, but that was because one tire was destroyed when a spike went through the sidewall. Rather than a one tire replacement, installed a complete set.
You'll find tires in the 700 range that should equate to a great many miles, however, different cars along with various driving habits will dictate the longevity. Have GY Comfortred on our knock around car, changed them at 77k miles, but that was because one tire was destroyed when a spike went through the sidewall. Rather than a one tire replacement, installed a complete set.
#9
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Continental DWS (50K miles out of a set) or OEM Michelin HX MX4M's which I got 60K out of with highway driving.
Don't go with dunlops, they are very loud after they wear down a bit.
Don't go with dunlops, they are very loud after they wear down a bit.
#10
Drifting
That's about the miles I put on a year... Longer treadlife tires have a harder tread compound, which typically means less grip.
With that being said, with almost every tire I've ever used, the higher the rated treadwear warranty, the crappier the handling was with the tire, especially in the wet... This isn't always the case, but just my observation...
So far the best treadwear I've gotten was with the MXM4s, but I was really glad to replace them when I installed the DWS, because the MSM4s were downright scary in the rain, as they tended to hydroplane very easily.
I've been very happy with the several sets of DWS I went thru on multiple cars. I have the DWS06 right now, but I just got those a few weeks ago... I've averaged about 35,000 - 45,000 miles on them, but I always had the warranty pro-rated whenever I picked up a new set, so it didn't really bother me. The performance of the tire far outweighed the slight decrease in treadlife over what I had before.
With that being said, with almost every tire I've ever used, the higher the rated treadwear warranty, the crappier the handling was with the tire, especially in the wet... This isn't always the case, but just my observation...
So far the best treadwear I've gotten was with the MXM4s, but I was really glad to replace them when I installed the DWS, because the MSM4s were downright scary in the rain, as they tended to hydroplane very easily.
I've been very happy with the several sets of DWS I went thru on multiple cars. I have the DWS06 right now, but I just got those a few weeks ago... I've averaged about 35,000 - 45,000 miles on them, but I always had the warranty pro-rated whenever I picked up a new set, so it didn't really bother me. The performance of the tire far outweighed the slight decrease in treadlife over what I had before.
#11
For longevity, I couldn't disagree more. I installed these and rotated every 5-6K miles with several alignments, got 22K if I remember right and the inner tread was 1-2/32" with 3/32" on the center. Alignment was in spec the entire time.
Don't get me wrong, they handled great and I loved them in the rain, but for longevity vs cost, no way Jose.
Don't get me wrong, they handled great and I loved them in the rain, but for longevity vs cost, no way Jose.
#12
Senior Moderator
For longevity, I couldn't disagree more. I installed these and rotated every 5-6K miles with several alignments, got 22K if I remember right and the inner tread was 1-2/32" with 3/32" on the center. Alignment was in spec the entire time.
Don't get me wrong, they handled great and I loved them in the rain, but for longevity vs cost, no way Jose.
Don't get me wrong, they handled great and I loved them in the rain, but for longevity vs cost, no way Jose.
#13
As crazy as it may sound... if you're in experimenting mood I'd tell you I plan to try heat cycling street(UHP) tires. lol. Discounttiredirect does them for $15 each. And there's anecdotal evidence (very solid argument here) that "some guy's" heat cycled yokohama touring(normal driver) tire lasting 50k miles and not even halfway worn down. I think it'll be a fun thing to see if there's ANY difference, for $60. ANYWAY.
For starters I'd look into major brand tires' that have
1. Tread patters that aren't aggressive(no fancy "cobra-grip continuous center block" etc)
2. Multiple longitudinal grooves
3. the look of very "taxi-y" tire or small commercial van tire looking. yeah... I'm one of those people who notice tires as I walk... I really wish i remembered the tires on my friend's Camry.. they looked like they'd deliver what you're looking for.
Anyway it's obviously not the perfect solution but choosing by and thinking of why and how of tread patterns helped me narrow down my choices. And then I didn't forget tests, reviews, etc as well.
Personally I ended up with Cooper Zeon RS3-A because they were cheap I liked their (also cheap) bigger brother RS3-S. My first set drove 13,000 miles and with no tire rotation, from 9/32nd front tread wore down to a little over 7 to 8/32nd, rear tread wore down to around 8 to 8.5/32 - I have slight negative camber in all corners, showed in the consistently more worn inside, was happy. So considering all the events I won't bother to write I expect at least 35k miles (with some fun driving) before I get sick but around 50k legally usable life (2/32nd) if I was purely commuting like a commuter. Also I believe driving 80mph vs 65mph does matter in tire's time. Just my opinion, and I'm mentioning it because I had to do a lot of 80mph long drives with the first set of RS3-A.
Now... it gets even better (assuming you're looking for longevity because of $$)
Because they were $336 shipped for a set, and will be 276$ when the $60 Cooper rebate comes in the mail in near future. But this is my second set because I liked the performance and predictability. So looking at the prices .... if these lasts half as long, maybe two third as long as Pilot Sport A/S3 that I've been dying to try I can't convince myself to go Michelin(the best!) because budget - planning something for suspension because 10-year-old car. Lastly, my opinion, they're rubber(well this is a fact). Just because the tread depth is okay doesn't mean you won't benefit from buying new every once in a while, plus sun in the south probably isn't good for tires either and my car stays outside 24/7. So as long as it's not too crazy I prefer to replace 1 set every 3 year for $3.33 vs 1 set every 5 year for $5. I won't replace tires every year even if they were for $1..
For starters I'd look into major brand tires' that have
1. Tread patters that aren't aggressive(no fancy "cobra-grip continuous center block" etc)
2. Multiple longitudinal grooves
3. the look of very "taxi-y" tire or small commercial van tire looking. yeah... I'm one of those people who notice tires as I walk... I really wish i remembered the tires on my friend's Camry.. they looked like they'd deliver what you're looking for.
Anyway it's obviously not the perfect solution but choosing by and thinking of why and how of tread patterns helped me narrow down my choices. And then I didn't forget tests, reviews, etc as well.
Personally I ended up with Cooper Zeon RS3-A because they were cheap I liked their (also cheap) bigger brother RS3-S. My first set drove 13,000 miles and with no tire rotation, from 9/32nd front tread wore down to a little over 7 to 8/32nd, rear tread wore down to around 8 to 8.5/32 - I have slight negative camber in all corners, showed in the consistently more worn inside, was happy. So considering all the events I won't bother to write I expect at least 35k miles (with some fun driving) before I get sick but around 50k legally usable life (2/32nd) if I was purely commuting like a commuter. Also I believe driving 80mph vs 65mph does matter in tire's time. Just my opinion, and I'm mentioning it because I had to do a lot of 80mph long drives with the first set of RS3-A.
Now... it gets even better (assuming you're looking for longevity because of $$)
Because they were $336 shipped for a set, and will be 276$ when the $60 Cooper rebate comes in the mail in near future. But this is my second set because I liked the performance and predictability. So looking at the prices .... if these lasts half as long, maybe two third as long as Pilot Sport A/S3 that I've been dying to try I can't convince myself to go Michelin(the best!) because budget - planning something for suspension because 10-year-old car. Lastly, my opinion, they're rubber(well this is a fact). Just because the tread depth is okay doesn't mean you won't benefit from buying new every once in a while, plus sun in the south probably isn't good for tires either and my car stays outside 24/7. So as long as it's not too crazy I prefer to replace 1 set every 3 year for $3.33 vs 1 set every 5 year for $5. I won't replace tires every year even if they were for $1..
Last edited by 4drviper; 04-07-2016 at 01:06 AM. Reason: I used a tread depth gauge and took multiple measurements to make sure.
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I noticed no MPG change from conti DWS to RS3-S to RS3-A. Still get 380-410miles on road trips from fuel pump first click to low fuel light comes on.. I agree if I saw 3-5mpg drop that would be unacceptable.
#16
I just acquired the RS3-A to replace my Motivos. They Nittos were a great tire and I was quite impressed with them overall. Initially, I paid $125 each. They were great bang for the buck and did everything better than the OEM Michelins that came on the car.
I could not pass up the deal I got on the Coopers though, at $102 each, so we shall see. (225/50/17) The Coopers have pretty decent reviews, from what I have found.
I will be paying attention to mileage to see how they hold up there too!
I could not pass up the deal I got on the Coopers though, at $102 each, so we shall see. (225/50/17) The Coopers have pretty decent reviews, from what I have found.
I will be paying attention to mileage to see how they hold up there too!
#17
Pirelli P7 Cinturatos. They are one speed rating less than stock so they aren't as stiff but they are good for 70K miles. I drive 60K miles a year and mine are holding up very well after about 50K last I checked. I'll probably get 70K or more out of them. They are low rolling resistance and my MPG's went up too as a result. I don't have the Type S but handling is slightly less sharp than OEM tires with the Pirelli P7's. I love the tires.