Hate how your rear wheel is pushed to the back of the wheel well?

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Old 10-07-2011, 08:04 PM
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Hate how your rear wheel is pushed to the back of the wheel well?

Just seeing how many ppl this bothers as well. Moderately lowered cars really don't have the issue however if your around tucking tire you notice it greatly.

Looking at the rear cross member it's easy to see that the culprit is the angle at which the horizontal links mount to the cross member. Instead of being welded on completely vertical they pitch towards the rear so as the suspension compresses the wheel is offset in the wheel well.

I had a few ideas on how to fix this but nothing is simple. At this point I'm thinking the cleanest route is pulling out the cross member and making new custom polyurethane bushings that have an offset hole. This would push the whole cross member forward by a 1/2" obo recentering the wheel. Since everything bolts to the cross member no suspension geometry is messed with other than the caster angle of the shock (would need rear pillowball mounts).

Any Honda/Acura techs out there ever removed a rear cross member from a 3G TL, TSX, or Newer Accord? Any feedback or suggestions?
Old 10-08-2011, 09:31 AM
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The suspension is designed to camber in when compressed, if you remove that ability you will DRASTICALLY reduce your handling abilities. Want to reduce the gap? Get spacers.

See my thread on that here: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-photograph-gallery-96/finally-got-right-833446/
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Originally Posted by LostSol_FoundTL
The suspension is designed to camber in when compressed, if you remove that ability you will DRASTICALLY reduce your handling abilities. Want to reduce the gap? Get spacers.

See my thread on that here: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=833446
camber and caster are two different things....wheels sitting flush aren't the issue here. thanks for your input.
Old 10-08-2011, 10:19 PM
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Weird, I have had 4 3rd gen TL's and my rear wheels have all seemed to be perfectly centered with equal gap all around. Am I misunderstanding you here or something because I sure dont see it and I just looked at pictures of each TL I have owned. You sure your car wasnt all tweaked in an accident or something? Post pics if you got'em.

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Old 10-12-2011, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by danscreations
camber and caster are two different things....wheels sitting flush aren't the issue here. thanks for your input.
shouldn't use terms like offset then. just a tip


i know what you mean. thats bracing for the suspension. when you are driving at 50 mph it will 'pull' back tightly, not letting it shift farther back over bumps.

i don't think you want to mess with a cross member anyway
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rear wheel

Hi I was wondering if you ever resolved the issue with the rear wheel being pushed in when slammed?
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Originally Posted by UASICK
Hi I was wondering if you ever resolved the issue with the rear wheel being pushed in when slammed?
Spacers.
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I dont think thats what he means. I know what OP was referring to. When the car is lowered its as if the wheel base gets shorter. Lowered jettas are famous for this.
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yeah..its very obvious in my picture
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You could always just not slam it to the point of being useless and looking like it's been in a wreck. These suspensions are so well engineered and all of that engineering is trashed along with the handling. I thought this is what Civics are for.

Urethane is not a good idea in the rear. Bushing deflection under braking engineered in so it will toe in under braking for better stability.
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It's interesting how most ppl didnt understand what the OP meant. Camber are caster are not the same. In any case I don't think it's a big deal to most people that the suspension shifts toward the back. Pillowball mounts probably would be needed(as OP said) and any other option would probably cost too much to be worth it.

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Originally Posted by I hate cars
You could always just not slam it to the point of being useless and looking like it's been in a wreck. These suspensions are so well engineered and all of that engineering is trashed along with the handling. I thought this is what Civics are for.

Urethane is not a good idea in the rear. Bushing deflection under braking engineered in so it will toe in under braking for better stability.
I didnt think it was so slammed that it was useless..but thanks for the input.

Originally Posted by paperboy42190
It's interesting how most ppl didnt understand what the OP meant. Camber are caster are not the same. In any case I don't think it's a big deal to most people that the suspension shifts toward the back. Pillowball mounts probably would be needed(as OP said) and any other option would probably cost too much to be worth it.
I was hoping someone had a kit made for this problem or something like Jettas do. It really does bother me a lot, sometimes it looks like the rear wheel is completely screwed up
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