hondasaurus

SPC makes the camber kits: Front and Rear. They are sold by Comptech and a few other vendors.

Beware: the front #67320 will not fit on 2004-2005TL. The slide plate is too big for the ball joint hole. Also, tested $61725, will not fit.

SPC suggested trying different slide plates to test fit. I disagree with this method of resolution since they indicated that the part will fit from their catalog as well as from other vendors.

In the end, I returned the SPC front camber kits.

Don't buy SPC Front Camber until they fix this HUGE error. I wasted installation money and time trying to get the front camber kit installed.

http://www.spcprod.com

cM3go

thanks for telling all the members, sucks it didn't work out, but now we know, points for you

cvajs

do you mean SPC # 67125 ?? i never saw anyone suggest that #67320 would fit a 3G TL. who sold you that part ??


also, you have a wrong link to their site, it should be http://www.specprod.com/

Teh Jatt

dude ugot the part #'s wrong

i have front and rear ones on order... and the part #s are

FRONT: 67125
REAR: 67095

cvajs

nah, he has them right (i also correct myself). the 67320 front SPC part has an Adjustment range: +1.50° to +3.00° typically used for 2+ inch drops.


i contacted SPC directly to see what they say about this claim. my order was already shipped to me, i get it next tuesday.

Teh Jatt

what? he said those part # kits didnt fit and how is he correct?

am i correct on my part #s?

cvajs

he means they dont work correctly in our 3G TL's. they are the right #'s according to SPC, but those #'s for the front come up on SPC website for older civic/accord application. i'm guessing SPC thought the same part for accord would work for 3G TL.

here's some feedback from SPC


"After some investigation, Engineering will be sourcing a vehicle and ensuring the 67125 ball joint will install for the 3rd generation TL’s. In the meantime do not install these parts on your vehicle until we have thoroughly investigated this issue.

With the Holiday season up and coming we hope to feedback to you by 5th Jan, if you have any problems with this please call me on 303 772 2103 x221

Regards
Charles Huguenot
Director of Engineering"

New2004AcuraTLman

looks like charles dropped the " ball" on this one! haha. jackass he is . How do you ASSUME that something fits without testing? He should be shot and sued for his gross negligence and incompetence

cvajs

1) maybe. i won't judge them just yet. they may have been told by Honda that the front suspension was identical to the older Accord. but as you say, testing should have been done before being sold for this application.


2) if you use their app wizard for 2004 TL on their website, you'll get 2 front SPC parts, but if you click on the part # you'll get a details page for the part and on that page the 3G TL is not listed in the "applications" section.


that's a harsh statement, but at least they are working on a resolution.


cheers.

hondasaurus

Thanks CVAJS for doing the follow up!!

Typo on the second camber kit : #67125. That kit was tested since #67320 slide plate didnt fit. Both slide plates on #67125 and #67320 are exactly the same.

I suggest that you don't do the install until SPC fixes this problem.

However, the rear kits work well.

cvajs

the folks at SPC say they sourced a TL and fitted their front camber ball joint (SPC #67125) with no issues.

"We have investigated the claims within the article you sent us and found that our parts do fit the OEM components."

hondasaurus - maybe you got different slide plates ??? what didn't work?

Bitium

No they will not work on the 2004/05 TL. There is a BIG RED sticker on the ones I got for my 99 TL that says: "This part will not work on 2004 TL"

cvajs

1) you got parts for your '99, why should they fit a 3g TL ??
2) what SPC part #'s did you get, and what are the #'s stamped onto the ball joint slide plates?

i got #67125 and #67095 (rear arms). the ball plates have #'s stamped on them, but i dont have them here. none of my parts have a red sticker on them.

cvajs

i doubt the upper a-arm had any design changes (casting or machining) on any 3G TL, they are all the same. what slide plate #'s did (do) you have ???

Bitium

I'm sorry I take that back, I did not fully read the post.

I got this parts for my 99 TL (same as up to 2003 I will asume)

Front camber # 67125
Rear camber # 67090

I didn't notice the part number you posted for the rear was 67095. The one that has the sticker is the rear camber kit (67090) it says:

APPLICATION WARNING!
THIS KIT WILL NO FIT
2004 AND UP ACURA TL.

The front camber # 67125 does not say anything.

hondasaurus

New Part # to test: #67340

cvajs

that's a 3 degree ball joint. what's wrong with this one ??? what plate #'s do/did you have ??? who told you that one fits the 3G TL ??

test where, for SPC to test or for a member to test ???

SPC#67320 is the one SPC lists for 3G TL.

hondasaurus

According to SPC, #67340 uses two different components. 1) knotting hole and 2) plate

The plate is about 2mm smaller in circumference compared to #67320. The new knotting hole works in conjunction with the new plate.

This is not 100% confirmation that it will fix the problem that I got with my car. SPC has not committed to an assured solution other than to try out a new part due to "possible running changes" on the TL.

I'm not ready to take out the control arm again to test this out, since the removal will wear down the balljoint thereby forcing me to purchase a new control arm.

If someone else has further info, then please POST.

smartin9949

hondasaurus - i think we have solved the issue. you are correct about the a-arm differences in 3G TL's. there are two different arms on these cars!!!

i spoke to Jack at SPC earlier. SPC is trying to find where/if there is a VIN jump that identifies the diff in a-arms used. he says the info he got from his local dealer that all arms are made in a Ohio plant.

as for SPC parts, 67125 is for the larger ball plate and 67145 will fit the arms with smaller ball plate. you were questioning the 3-degree parts 67320 and 67340. 67320 is for the larger ball plate and 67340 looks like it has the same plates as 67145 (for smaller ball plated arms).

it's really F'in incredible that the honda had a running change of the upper a-arm.

i have 67125 and i might test it this weekend. is your 3G a early or late build and what year??

smartin9949

Wrong! Honda somehow managed to squeeze in a running change of the upper a-arm, which led to arms that have different ball plate diameters.

hondasaurus

Here is my VIN: 19UUA65644A021983

Got the car in January04 if that helps.

ravi

so is this effecting just the front camber kits or the rear as well?

i need to buy a rear one...is the rear ok to buy? or should i wait untill they have tested it...

marktrebli

Yes, the rear SPC item is fine. SPC has 2 front ball #'s, one or the other will fit and work.

Acura_Kid

Front Ball 1.5 Degree
67145 fits the smaller arm holes (plates are smaller)
67125 fits the larger arm holes

SPC does also have two #'s in 3 degree front ball joints that will work.

Jack at SPC is trying to document the A-arm change vs. VIN #'s, so if you do use SPC parts be sure to send Jack your A-arm plate info (large or small A-arm plates) and your VIN. Send info to Jack at jelliott@specprod.com

hondasaurus

#67340, will fit smaller ball joint hole. I recently had it installed and it fits correctly.

peter-peter

Just to clarify, SPC designed the 67095 kit specifically for the 04+ TL so you will not have any fitment issues with this kit. As for control arm discrepency, please continue to post and email SPC with your vin#'s so they can locate the vin# jump.

RawDogg

So.... just to be clear.

For the Front Camber, I would go with part #67320 IF my front drop was MORE than 1.5".

If my front drop was 1.5" or LESS, I would go with part #67125.

I called SPC, and this is what I took from the conversation.... I just wanted to be 100% clear before ordering so I figured I'd ask you all before I did so....

From the website:

PART #67320 has an Adjustment range: +1.50° to +3.00°.
PART #67125 has an Adjustment range: -1.50° to +1.50°.

Thanks!

peter-peter

Yes, that is a good rule of thumb to use when choosing camber kits. However, understand that every vehicle will react differently to lowering and may require more or less adjustment. (disclaimer)

nguyent281

Anyone find out what the real part number for the front is? I'm still confused from reading the posts. Thanks

RawDogg

For the Front Camber Kits, one would go with:

Part #67320 if the front drop was MORE than 1.5".
Part #67125 if the front drop was 1.5" or LESS.

Simply put:
FRONT DROP = > 1.5" - Part#67320
FRONT DROP = < 1.5" - Part#67125

nguyent281

Thanks a million rawdog

RacialSlurs

still not 100% correct. these #'s only reflect the max degrees the ball can adjust.

there are 2 different sets of SPC front parts, each of which has a different sized ball plate. some TL's have a large plate while others have a smaller plate.