JT22

Ok here's the thing, I have a set of Toyo T1R's and they are wearing pretty fast. The two sets of Toyo's i've had were the proxes4 and T1R's. I preferred the T1R's over the proxes4 but I have been hearing good things about the Falkens so I was just wanted some of your thoughts on either the Toyo's or Falkens. Oh BTW I am either looking for 235/35/19 or 245/35/19 for my RonJon Inspyres so if any of you guys what would be better for me because I am dropped on Tein S-Tech 1.5 inches in the front and 1.25 in the back and I only have a rear camber kit.

Also could the tires be wearing fast because of my drop and the camber kit. And i did get a four wheel alingment.

Thanks for the help! JT

stillhere153

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I've seen awful reviews for the toyo tr1, and nothing but good reviews about the 452, the falken's only negative is a mushy sidewall when pushed hard, personally I preffer the mushy sidewall since it opposes the understeer

ps. mushy sidewalls on a dry corner are all conditions go, on a wet corner i wouldn't try it...
I am rolling on 245/40-18 falken 912

JT22

thanks bro

tclavell

I have about 5,000 miles on my Falken FK 452's and they are great. They produce very little if any road noise. I usually run the with around 36 PSI all around.

245/35/19

FiveLiterCheater

Running the 452's as well (245/35/19) and they grip extremely well. If you're looking for high(er) end summer tires, get the Goodyear F1s.

ndabunka

The guy running the taller than typical (40-series) tires may be experiencing "mushy side walls due to that rather than the mfg. Also, the 912's might have mushy sidewalls but the 452's don't. However, they are a "blocky" design and if your offset is +30, you may rub in the rears with the 245/35's so I'd recommend the 235/35's

hlee1

I have the Falken 452s on my '04 TL and am not impressed with them. They came on the car when I bought it used in November. Most of the tread left on the tires btw. My complaints are as follows:

1) a lot of road noise
2) when accelerating fast, the tires do NOT grip well at all
3) absolutely horrible in any type of snow (even very thin layers)

As mentioned earlier, these tires were on the car when I bought them. I'm not sure how well they were taken care of before, but I'm not impressed with them.

limited

I've been running T1R's for about 5K miles and they seem pretty good. Tread life has been awesome so far and there's hasn't been much in terms of road noise. Once these are gone I might pick up a set of the FK452's to try out. From what I've seen the T1R and FK452 are pretty much the same with the FK452's being reported as quieter.

01tl4tl

Here is my plug for the tires I am running: General Exclaim UHP- Ultra High Performance
They were designed as a summer tire but special tread pattern designs qualified it for M&S mud/snow rating. Some members are running them in light snow no prob.
The AA wet braking rating is real and functional~
Hangs on tight in the wet or dry and quiet enough to keep wife happy, plus low cost enough to use for track days and not worry.
Well rated on tirerack- check them out

FiveLiterCheater

The FK452 is a SUMMER TIRE.

1) You're the first to complain about road noise with the 452
2) Never heard this before either, i've taken onramps and highway turns extremely fast with them, and they never felt like they were going to give in
3) Summer tires generally don't do well when its cold out

I'm guessing you live somewhere with a cold climate right now, so I have no idea why you're running the 452's. Of course they're not going to grip well if they can't meet their optimal temperature, and don't even TRY these tires in the snow.

wasupdog

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my guess is that his 452's are low on tread and most complaints about road noise are from guys whose tires need to almost be replaced, it's a common complaint with any tire brand.

the 452's and t1r's are very different tires imo. the t1r's are probably more performance based and have the usual / \ shape when mounted on a wheel. i think they are also more expensive. the 452's have a rim protector feature so my guess is that the sidewalls might be softer. i dunno cus i only have 452's and have never run t1r's. the 452's shape is more like | |.

hlee1

I assure you that the tires are not low on tread. There's definitely more than half of the tread left on the tires. Maybe my standards are different.

Them being summer tires would explain why they are horrible in any type of snow. They were simply on the car when I bought them and I haven't had the time to change them. Luckily, it hasn't snowed too much. I'm in PA btw.

Moving on to a new set of tires in the next few months.

hlee1

Your explanation seems right on. It makes sense that the tires aren't operating as per usual b/c it's not optimal temperature. To clarify #2, I wasn't talking about accelerating through turns, but rather accelerating from a stop into a fast turn. In these instances, the tires don't grip well at all.

TLMAK

I personnaly have had the the Falken FK452's on my Bimmer, and they were probably one of the best tires I ever put on,
For the profile of the tire and being a Sportsummer/rain sport tire the road noise is a minimalist in comparison to any other tire in its Class , Cornering is amazing, I love coming home because of the winding roads I used to challenge and theese tires stick , as for accelerating from a stop into a fast turn ???? Do you mean sharp turn? a turn cant have speed...lol anyways regardless in every instance including accelerating from a stop wether straight which is great or in a turning which is not reccomended and quite frankly stupid who floors the gas right before a turn from a stop?... Theese tires are summer tires therefore meant for summer of course they are not going to do good in any type of snow thats why they have snow tires ,and if youd like the median well theres all season which are not optimal in summer nor winter but just get the job done , summer tires have a designated tread desing to accomadate to the category "summer" and summers conditions and the summer tires use a rubber compund thats best suitable in "summer" conditions in accordance with summer temperatures to allow the tires to be sticky and grip , in the snow or extreme cold the tires would obviously harden and hence act like skis , by the way what summer low profile , or any summer would be good in the snow???? Please let me know because I need a set ...I think everyone would like that , Also my vehicles dropped Lowwww, my tires are tucked right under the fender and I have a the turner motorsports Camber Kit , leading to your other question about tire wear im sure toyo t1s a re a great tire the wearing fast is deffinetly relative to the lowering of your vehicle , The camber kit helps correct the camber , and lessen if not eliminate FAST tire wear.. SO the drop is the cause of your tire wear (is your tire wear mostly inner?) and the camber kit is there to help the wear and correct the Camber. Given my car is dropped the tires are great so I cant only imagine on any other car

ACTROS

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Another vote for 245/35/19 Falken FK 452-very durable tire!

rodneyc77

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on the 452's...

VegasRPh

Check on www.tirerack.com and read some reviews. I am looking for new SUMMER tires myself and it looks like there are some very good & very bad tires out there.
Check out the BFG G-Sport tires, a lot of Acura owners rate these very high. Also the Firehawk wide oval tires seem like really good ones, too.
Best of Luck!! Let me know what you get, I am interested, too!!

ballinfizzle89

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JCL622

how come ppl don't go with the Yokohama AVS ES100's anymore? If i wasn't so strapped for cash i'd buy 4 right now

jfk0121

Has anyone tried the GY Response Edge?

Looking at GY's sight, you lose 1 point on traction and gain 2 points on noise.

ndabunka

Because they are crap. They wear out in about 10K miles. My 452's have been on this car for about 25K miles and STILL look like they are new. Good performance AND long tread life? What's not to like. I think the guy complaining about the noise MUST have mounted them backwards....the "point" of the "V" is suppose to hit the ground first, not last during rotation...

VegasRPh

I have had my Falken FK 452s on my TL Type S for about 1 month now. A+. No complaints. I think these tires are a STEAL at $109 each.
GREAT traction/grip, QUIET RIDE, handle well in corners, etc.
What's not to like??

Revolutions

i had FK452s before and the previous FK451s...wasn't impressed with any of them.... I now run on Nitto NT555....excellent tires....they'll only last you about 20-25k though

JT22

i really want a tire with good sidewall protection for my rj ravens along with good tread life... oh yeah good performance too

ballinfizzle89

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FK452 is the shit imo, I have em on my 19s as well as stocks

JT22

i have heard many good things about FK452.. i just might get these

ifirahse

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I've got the 452's too. Had them for about 500 miles. Great tires, especially for the price ($440 for a set of 4).

ed99

I have been running 452's on my 20's and no complaint thus far. They are very quiet and great on dry and wet pavement.

VegasRPh

Nitto NT 555's are ok. I looked at those, too. BUT DID YOU NOTICE the Nittos only get:
Traction A
Temperature A
Treadwear is 300

The Falken FK 452 tire gets:
Traction AA (best rating)
Temperature A (best rating)
Treadwear is 300

AND THE NITTO NT 555 was MORE $$$$.......huh??

My vote is Falken FK 452 (I am loving mine)

DiZlAoSbOiSoFlY

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where the best bet to find a good deal on the 452's?

VegasRPh

Check out www.discounttiredirect.com

You will get THE BEST PRICE ON THE 452s here.

Then, you can take the PAGE PRINT OUT to your local tire shop.......have them MATCH/BEAT that price.........should be no problem. Most Tire Shops want to earn your business on a set of 4 new tires!!!!

That's what I did.........plus I had help from a fellow Aziner who just so happen to work at Discount Tire Co. !!