Drive comparison between non-Aspec & Aspec
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Drive comparison between non-Aspec & Aspec
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I'm interested in purchasing an 04 or 05 TL and would like to have somebody describe their actual driving experiences with a TL non-Aspec and Aspec models. I don't need to know about prices or looks, just real world driving impressions from people that have driven both versions.
Thanks.
I'm interested in purchasing an 04 or 05 TL and would like to have somebody describe their actual driving experiences with a TL non-Aspec and Aspec models. I don't need to know about prices or looks, just real world driving impressions from people that have driven both versions.
Thanks.
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I have asked this question as well, and never had any responses. If Acura is really interested in selling this 5000.00 option they would make a demo car available to test drive at the dealerships.
I for one and opting out unless I can drive one before purchase (highly unlikely).
I am waiting for someone to make aftermarket shocks and will pick them up along with the springs.
I for one and opting out unless I can drive one before purchase (highly unlikely).
I am waiting for someone to make aftermarket shocks and will pick them up along with the springs.
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I have it on my car and there is no comparison. I had the car without ASPEC for a while and then with comptech springs only. With nothing the car was bouncy. With the comptechs it was stiff and didn't take bumps but rode them out. The ASPEC is OH MY G-D the front suspensin with shocks and struts is 20% softer than original. It is pure butter like driving an s500 just eats up the road. The back is 40% stiffer which gives that amazing handling. The car is crazy now. Off the sport shift it flies and grips the road like you wouldn't beleave. The brake pads improve braking quite well to. The steering wheel is nice if that is what you like. I paid 3 installed for mine. But after having it for three weeks I would have paid anything. There is just nothing life factory tuned sport suspension. no company can match how great the car is with the Kit form Acura.
At least in my opinion anyway. Love the shit out of my car now.
At least in my opinion anyway. Love the shit out of my car now.
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Hey I drive the 04 TL A-Spec, and i believe it drives better. the handling is better, the one inch drop helps tighten the suspension, they changed the brakes. and the looks is much better, not to forget the 18 inch rims , yokohoma tires. Its good, kinda pricey, but if you can get a better price from a body shop or auto tuning shop then go for that. Up to you. here is a link to my car http://members.cardomain.com/zero523
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Originally posted by Zero523
Hey I drive the 04 TL A-Spec, and i believe it drives better. the handling is better, the one inch drop helps tighten the suspension, they changed the brakes. and the looks is much better, not to forget the 18 inch rims , yokohoma tires. Its good, kinda pricey, but if you can get a better price from a body shop or auto tuning shop then go for that. Up to you. here is a link to my car http://members.cardomain.com/zero523
Hey I drive the 04 TL A-Spec, and i believe it drives better. the handling is better, the one inch drop helps tighten the suspension, they changed the brakes. and the looks is much better, not to forget the 18 inch rims , yokohoma tires. Its good, kinda pricey, but if you can get a better price from a body shop or auto tuning shop then go for that. Up to you. here is a link to my car http://members.cardomain.com/zero523
How is the ground clearance with the A-spec kit? That is a concern I have with changing the TL suspension - I don't want to have to worry about speedbumps or getting my car in the driveway. Probably more of a worry with aftermarket kits than with the Acura package.
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Thanks everybody for the opinions...
This is the first real driving information I've ever seen about an Aspec TL, thanks. I'd like to go with the factory Aspec kit and I do think the price is worth it. I currently own a mildly modified Honda Prelude Sh now, and while the mods are great, I'd like something that carries the factory warranty and is guaranteed to work 100%. If anybody else has further Aspec driving impressions I'd love to hear them...
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Wow, the Acura 18's look really, really good on a NBP TL! When it's time for tires I might have to get a set! I keep hearing good things about the A-spec ride - improved handling without harshness. I bought my car before I knew about the A-spec kit, and it came with the underbody kit installed. Buying the A-spec kit now would be painful because I don't need half of it. I wish Acura would part out the suspension components. As aftermarket kits start to appear I'll consider them.
How is the ground clearance with the A-spec kit? That is a concern I have with changing the TL suspension - I don't want to have to worry about speedbumps or getting my car in the driveway. Probably more of a worry with aftermarket kits than with the Acura package.
How is the ground clearance with the A-spec kit? That is a concern I have with changing the TL suspension - I don't want to have to worry about speedbumps or getting my car in the driveway. Probably more of a worry with aftermarket kits than with the Acura package.
I had the dealer install the bod-kit and I just added A Spec wheels with Mich PS2's on my '05 Anthracite...the cornering improved dramatically over the stock set.
Considering the susp kit but am concerned it may be too rough a ride...posts here are swaying me to go for it.
Oh yeah, if you go to the 18's w/ 235/40's w/out the susp kit you'll see more room in the wells - the wheels are 1" larger but the tires (PS2's anyway) are over 2" shorter= you lose an inch or so...another reason I'm close to buying the susp kit
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Here's your answer - it doesn't get any better than this:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...er/index1.html
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...er/index1.html
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Consider the copmtech rear sway bar in addition to the aspec suspension kit.
I wrote this before:
I just had the A-Spec body kit, A-Spec suspension, and the Comptech swaybar installed on my 04 auto TL. The stock ride to me was plush and comfortable, but this is something my dad would like. I personally did not like the excessive understeer, the body roll, or the excessive wheel well gap.
After the mods went on, the ride is good. The understeer is muted. Not quite as neutral as my 04 BMW 330i ZHP, but still good. I'm not bashing the TL or bragging about my BMW, so please dont nail me to the wall. I just honestly think my BMW 330i ZHP handles better. The BMW has, I think, perfect turn in and can power through some hairy turns while the TL's turn in still has a hint of understeer and does not like to be pushed in the corners. I will say comparing the two is unfair since the TL is a larger car and FWD, but I thought some of you out there would like to read this since I just happen to own the two cars.
Oh, the plush and comfortable is also muted, I guess you can't have everything. The stance is lower, more in the rear than in the front, and so I think it looks better.
I wrote this before:
I just had the A-Spec body kit, A-Spec suspension, and the Comptech swaybar installed on my 04 auto TL. The stock ride to me was plush and comfortable, but this is something my dad would like. I personally did not like the excessive understeer, the body roll, or the excessive wheel well gap.
After the mods went on, the ride is good. The understeer is muted. Not quite as neutral as my 04 BMW 330i ZHP, but still good. I'm not bashing the TL or bragging about my BMW, so please dont nail me to the wall. I just honestly think my BMW 330i ZHP handles better. The BMW has, I think, perfect turn in and can power through some hairy turns while the TL's turn in still has a hint of understeer and does not like to be pushed in the corners. I will say comparing the two is unfair since the TL is a larger car and FWD, but I thought some of you out there would like to read this since I just happen to own the two cars.
Oh, the plush and comfortable is also muted, I guess you can't have everything. The stance is lower, more in the rear than in the front, and so I think it looks better.
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I Have An '04 Nbp 6mt That I Drove For 8k W/ Stock Suspension Setup- Nice. Two Days Ago Installed The A Spec Suspension Only. Wow What A Difference. I Love It. Car Handles Like It's On Rails. Ride Is A Little Stiff, Girlfriend Noticed Right Away But Definantly Tolerable. Car Also Looks Just That Much Meaner Now. I, Like Many On This Forum Highly Recommend It. Check Ebay, Dealers Parting Out The Kit Now. Paid $600 For Mine And Picked It Up Cuz Dealer Happened To Be 20 Minutes Away. Do It.
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I did the same thing. I had the stock suspension for 18K miles and recently had the a-spec suspension put on. I noticed the difference instantly. You get a more connected feel to the road, sharper turn-in, and flatter cornering.
Here is an ebay link to the dealership I bought my from.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
I paid $760 and they had it to me in about 3 business days. Installed for $360. I already have the brembo brakes and HPTs with the 6 MT and I like the stock 17 wheels. So for $1120 I was able to get the handling of the a-spec package.
It realy does change the character of the car. I would recommend it!
Here is an ebay link to the dealership I bought my from.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
I paid $760 and they had it to me in about 3 business days. Installed for $360. I already have the brembo brakes and HPTs with the 6 MT and I like the stock 17 wheels. So for $1120 I was able to get the handling of the a-spec package.
It realy does change the character of the car. I would recommend it!
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I did the same thing. I had the stock suspension for 18K miles and recently had the a-spec suspension put on. I noticed the difference instantly. You get a more connected feel to the road, sharper turn-in, and flatter cornering.
Here is an ebay link to the dealership I bought my from.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
I paid $760 and they had it to me in about 3 business days. Installed for $360. I already have the brembo brakes and HPTs with the 6 MT and I like the stock 17 wheels. So for $1120 I was able to get the handling of the a-spec package.
It realy does change the character of the car. I would recommend it!
Here is an ebay link to the dealership I bought my from.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
I paid $760 and they had it to me in about 3 business days. Installed for $360. I already have the brembo brakes and HPTs with the 6 MT and I like the stock 17 wheels. So for $1120 I was able to get the handling of the a-spec package.
It realy does change the character of the car. I would recommend it!
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Don't forget to shop around, folks. Dealers will often cut you deals if you can find better pricing on the A-Spec suspension. I got mine for $600 from Falconi Acura. (Scott @ Falconi should honor this pricing - send me a PM if you have any questions). Don't forget to factor in shipping charges. Some dealers will allow you to use your own FedEx, UPS or DHL account, so keep that in mind when comparison shopping.
I'm getting mine installed later today.
I'm getting mine installed later today.
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What a blast from the past. Please click on "rvw" next to the A-spec in my signature below to read an extensive review of the A-Spec experience. I still love it almost a year later. Wheeeee!
P.S. I'm also moving this to the "Suspension" forum.
P.S. I'm also moving this to the "Suspension" forum.
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Originally Posted by dwhitten
I did the same thing. I had the stock suspension for 18K miles and recently had the a-spec suspension put on. I noticed the difference instantly. You get a more connected feel to the road, sharper turn-in, and flatter cornering.
Here is an ebay link to the dealership I bought my from.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
I paid $760 and they had it to me in about 3 business days. Installed for $360. I already have the brembo brakes and HPTs with the 6 MT and I like the stock 17 wheels. So for $1120 I was able to get the handling of the a-spec package.
It realy does change the character of the car. I would recommend it!
Here is an ebay link to the dealership I bought my from.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
I paid $760 and they had it to me in about 3 business days. Installed for $360. I already have the brembo brakes and HPTs with the 6 MT and I like the stock 17 wheels. So for $1120 I was able to get the handling of the a-spec package.
It realy does change the character of the car. I would recommend it!
DO U THINK THAAT WOULD WORK ON A 2ND GEN I GOT A 02 CL TYPE -S
WILL THE A-SPEC WORK ON IT OR FIT. I HAVE BEEN THINKING OF GETTING A TEIN SS WITH THE EBDC BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE CHEAPER I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS ANY COMPARISION BUT I HAD LIKE SOME OPINIONS.
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
I'm thinking about doing this with my '04 6MT. How much "rougher" is the ride? I know the handling improves, but I'm not sure if I'd be happer with the change in the smooth ride. Also, who did your installation? Dealer or another shop? Thanks.
I had my local Acura deal do the installation.
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Originally Posted by poisx7
DO U THINK THAAT WOULD WORK ON A 2ND GEN I GOT A 02 CL TYPE -S
WILL THE A-SPEC WORK ON IT OR FIT. I HAVE BEEN THINKING OF GETTING A TEIN SS WITH THE EBDC BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE CHEAPER I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS ANY COMPARISION BUT I HAD LIKE SOME OPINIONS.
WILL THE A-SPEC WORK ON IT OR FIT. I HAVE BEEN THINKING OF GETTING A TEIN SS WITH THE EBDC BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE CHEAPER I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS ANY COMPARISION BUT I HAD LIKE SOME OPINIONS.
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Originally Posted by poisx7
DO U THINK THAAT WOULD WORK ON A 2ND GEN I GOT A 02 CL TYPE -S
WILL THE A-SPEC WORK ON IT OR FIT. I HAVE BEEN THINKING OF GETTING A TEIN SS WITH THE EBDC BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE CHEAPER I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS ANY COMPARISION BUT I HAD LIKE SOME OPINIONS.
WILL THE A-SPEC WORK ON IT OR FIT. I HAVE BEEN THINKING OF GETTING A TEIN SS WITH THE EBDC BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE CHEAPER I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS ANY COMPARISION BUT I HAD LIKE SOME OPINIONS.
You may need to post in the CL section to see whether someone's actually done this, there are a lot of modders over there.
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Originally Posted by Zero523
Hey I drive the 04 TL A-Spec, and i believe it drives better. the handling is better, the one inch drop helps tighten the suspension, they changed the brakes. and the looks is much better, not to forget the 18 inch rims , yokohoma tires. Its good, kinda pricey, but if you can get a better price from a body shop or auto tuning shop then go for that. Up to you. here is a link to my car http://members.cardomain.com/zero523
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Originally Posted by dtakai
Consider the copmtech rear sway bar in addition to the aspec suspension kit.
I wrote this before:
I just had the A-Spec body kit, A-Spec suspension, and the Comptech swaybar installed on my 04 auto TL. The stock ride to me was plush and comfortable, but this is something my dad would like. I personally did not like the excessive understeer, the body roll, or the excessive wheel well gap.
After the mods went on, the ride is good. The understeer is muted. Not quite as neutral as my 04 BMW 330i ZHP, but still good. I'm not bashing the TL or bragging about my BMW, so please dont nail me to the wall. I just honestly think my BMW 330i ZHP handles better. The BMW has, I think, perfect turn in and can power through some hairy turns while the TL's turn in still has a hint of understeer and does not like to be pushed in the corners. I will say comparing the two is unfair since the TL is a larger car and FWD, but I thought some of you out there would like to read this since I just happen to own the two cars.
Oh, the plush and comfortable is also muted, I guess you can't have everything. The stance is lower, more in the rear than in the front, and so I think it looks better.
I wrote this before:
I just had the A-Spec body kit, A-Spec suspension, and the Comptech swaybar installed on my 04 auto TL. The stock ride to me was plush and comfortable, but this is something my dad would like. I personally did not like the excessive understeer, the body roll, or the excessive wheel well gap.
After the mods went on, the ride is good. The understeer is muted. Not quite as neutral as my 04 BMW 330i ZHP, but still good. I'm not bashing the TL or bragging about my BMW, so please dont nail me to the wall. I just honestly think my BMW 330i ZHP handles better. The BMW has, I think, perfect turn in and can power through some hairy turns while the TL's turn in still has a hint of understeer and does not like to be pushed in the corners. I will say comparing the two is unfair since the TL is a larger car and FWD, but I thought some of you out there would like to read this since I just happen to own the two cars.
Oh, the plush and comfortable is also muted, I guess you can't have everything. The stance is lower, more in the rear than in the front, and so I think it looks better.
OH! And don't get me started on the driving the ZHP through sharp turns .
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