Dealer set tires at 40 PSI?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-15-2006, 08:41 PM
  #1  
Racer
Thread Starter
 
JohnDoe2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Minneapolis, MN 55408
Posts: 378
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Dealer set tires at 40 PSI?

When I got my TL it had some vibration and the dealer replace all four tires. I didn' t notice much difference but was happy to get new tires.

When my 30,000 mile service came due, I decided to change the cabin filter and air filters myself and goto a budget oil change outlet to save money. All my other services were done at the dealer.

While they were checking the car out, the kid announced the tires were at 40 psi! Ain't that a bit high? I hadn't been driving more than a mile so I knew it wasn't the heat.

Do you think dealers are deliberatly overinflating tires to mask the tire flat-spotting problem?
Old 11-15-2006, 08:58 PM
  #2  
Previous Owner
 
Thorin78's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Diego, CA
Age: 45
Posts: 848
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
The manual says 32psi on all 4 tires for Auto and 35psi for fronts on 6spd.

So maybe the kid has a bad tool or something. I don't think the dealership would do it on purpose as I don't think over inflating a tire fixes flat spotting.
Old 11-15-2006, 09:04 PM
  #3  
One on the right for me
 
subinf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
Age: 41
Posts: 27,913
Received 271 Likes on 173 Posts
Air pressure tools are pretty unreliable. Even if it wasn't on point, I don't think the dealer would purposely overfill a tire.
Old 11-15-2006, 09:12 PM
  #4  
Registered but harmless
 
Will Y.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Age: 59
Posts: 14,857
Received 1,148 Likes on 775 Posts
Agree ^^^. Air pressure gauges at repair facilities and gas stations are notoriously inaccurate. That's also why I checked air pressure on each new car I got the morning after purchase-- the variations were incredible on a Camry we got-- every tire was a different pressure, too.
Otherwise, service personnel often set all four tires at the same (usually improper) pressure on every vehicle on purpose so they don't have to remember pressure differences between different vehicles like the MDX, TSX, etc. And yes, it would take only a couple of seconds to check the door plate, but that isn't what they do.
Old 11-15-2006, 09:16 PM
  #5  
6MT & LSD
 
ndx2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Age: 40
Posts: 1,754
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
when you drive the car, the air in the tire gets heated up and expands, therefore the pressure increases... check it when it's "cold" for a more accurate reading.
Old 11-16-2006, 04:33 PM
  #6  
Intermediate
 
2xselectrak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Age: 50
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you look in the door jam you will see the correct pressure, the front and rear are different
Old 11-16-2006, 10:02 PM
  #7  
One on the right for me
 
subinf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
Age: 41
Posts: 27,913
Received 271 Likes on 173 Posts
Originally Posted by ndx2
when you drive the car, the air in the tire gets heated up and expands, therefore the pressure increases... check it when it's "cold" for a more accurate reading.
Read the original post very carefully. The OP already stated that was most likely not the issue.
Old 11-17-2006, 06:49 PM
  #8  
Lt. Dangle
 
enormus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Age: 58
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I had the opposite occur on my last visit to dealer. 32psi all around, but I have the 18" A-spec wheels that call for 39 front / 36 rear. Bottom line: always check it yourself and always follow the sticker.
Old 11-18-2006, 08:30 AM
  #9  
Racer
Thread Starter
 
JohnDoe2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Minneapolis, MN 55408
Posts: 378
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I can see a car owner having a cheap tire pressure guage that is not accurate.

But I would expect service departments to have accurate tools.
Old 11-18-2006, 10:42 PM
  #10  
One on the right for me
 
subinf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
Age: 41
Posts: 27,913
Received 271 Likes on 173 Posts
Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
I can see a car owner having a cheap tire pressure guage that is not accurate.

But I would expect service departments to have accurate tools.

They start out accurate, but they get beat on pretty bad. They are expensive to maintain/replace. Most of the shops that I used to work at would replace every year. While I never calibrated the outgoing gauges, I'd bet they were 3-4psi off. Not really a big deal as it doesn't make that much of a difference.
Old 11-19-2006, 12:25 AM
  #11  
Registered but harmless
 
Will Y.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Age: 59
Posts: 14,857
Received 1,148 Likes on 775 Posts
Originally Posted by subinf
They start out accurate, but they get beat on pretty bad. They are expensive to maintain/replace. Most of the shops that I used to work at would replace every year. While I never calibrated the outgoing gauges, I'd bet they were 3-4psi off. Not really a big deal as it doesn't make that much of a difference.
Today, I was at the gas station that I usually use. Station had just installed a shiny new air hose and integrated brass gauge, which measured high by 6 psi per my certified round gauge, when I put air into the minivan's tires.
Old 11-21-2006, 02:53 PM
  #12  
Suzuka Master
 
pohljm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 5,069
Received 594 Likes on 457 Posts
I think that the dealer just missed reducing the tire pressure from the factory, they are shipped with 40+ psi to reduce the flat spotting while in transit. they should have reduced them when they received it and did there new vehicle prep
Old 11-22-2006, 09:26 AM
  #13  
Burning Brakes
 
mlody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Chicagoland
Age: 46
Posts: 774
Received 90 Likes on 52 Posts
Originally Posted by pohljm
I think that the dealer just missed reducing the tire pressure from the factory, they are shipped with 40+ psi to reduce the flat spotting while in transit. they should have reduced them when they received it and did there new vehicle prep
Exactly – my car PSI was all over the board. Had to wait next day and measure cold PSI to accurately set it. All the wheels were over inflated which was easy to adjust without going to a gas station
Old 11-22-2006, 11:50 AM
  #14  
Keep Right Except to Pass
 
1995hoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Kingstowne, VA
Age: 51
Posts: 2,409
Received 45 Likes on 36 Posts
I usually check mine within a few days of getting it back from the dealer because I assume they will forget that the fronts should be 3 psi more than the rears. Seems like they usually put them all at around 30 psi. But at least they've never done a rotation and left the rears at 35 and the fronts at 32. I'd find that more annoying because bleeding off the extra air is a nuisance. Adding air is easy since I keep a compressor around. Talk about unreliable gauges, BTW, the built-in gauge on that thing reads about 10 psi higher than my hand-held digital one.
Old 11-22-2006, 12:04 PM
  #15  
Pro
 
Desert_TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Age: 41
Posts: 505
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
When I took delivery of my new 06 TL, the TPMS indicated that the tire pressure was about 40psi on each tire. I think they come from the factory a tad overinflated. This will cause the suspension to seem a little stiffer and the handling will be a little better. They probably overinflate from the factory so that if the car is test driven, the tight suspension/handling will be more pronounced. If the tires were 30psi or lower, the handling might seem more spongy than they like. I think they prefer to shoot for overinflation than underinflation.

Either way, I took delivery and the car had 17 miles on it. I'm up to about 5300 now (*tear*) and the tires are down to about 30psi. In fact when I start the car in the morning when it's pretty cold, the TPMS indicates an average inflation of about 27 PSI and the warning light comes on. After about 3 minutes of driving the tires warm up and it goes up to about 30 PSI, and the warning light turns off. All of the tires "deflated" at the same rate. That is they were all 40 PSI when I took delivery and now they're all equally down to 30 PSI.

I personally wouldn't worry about the tires being slightly overinflated to 40PSI. I think it's far worse to have the tires underinflated. Underinflated tires hurt your gas mileage, cause excessive heating in the tire sidewall, and cause decreased handling performance (too spongy). Overinflated tires will mainly only cause uneven tread wear. Right?
Old 11-22-2006, 03:38 PM
  #16  
Intermediate
 
mcafee_jones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Age: 54
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My 2006 TL's tires were set at 40psi when I got the car from the dealer too. It was explained that since the cars were sitting on the lot and might not possibly be driven for awhile, the tires might flatspot, so that's why it was set at 40psi. He said I could leave it at 40psi and it wouldn't hurt anything or reduce it down to spec for a softer ride.
Old 11-22-2006, 04:13 PM
  #17  
Registered but harmless
 
Will Y.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Age: 59
Posts: 14,857
Received 1,148 Likes on 775 Posts
Originally Posted by Desert_TL
Overinflated tires will mainly only cause uneven tread wear. Right?
Overinflation will increase noise, reduce resistance to impact damage and might cause some handling over-sensitivity if the overinflation is extreme, i.e. more than 40lbs. If there is something hinky about the tire(s), wheel balance, suspension or alignment, overinflation may cause or accentuate spooky/erratic handling and ride too.
You will want to maintain the differential between front and rear tires to keep understeer (plow) within stock limits. Otherwise, oversteer will increase as the rear tire pressures increase in relation to front tire pressures.
Old 11-22-2006, 11:11 PM
  #18  
Suzuka Master
 
Jesstzn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Trail BC CanaDUH
Age: 79
Posts: 7,424
Received 293 Likes on 253 Posts
Overinflation will also cause excessive center tread wear.

BTW it was the old nylon tires that used to flat spot sitting .. they may do it more to reduce flex in the tie downs due to sidewall flex.

Set your tire all winter in the basement in one spot .. it won't flat spot .. I stored my cars from Nov to April all the time .. no flat spot ..

Dealer is shitting someone.
Old 11-24-2006, 11:29 AM
  #19  
Intermediate
 
northwoods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Age: 74
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
tire pressure

the recommended tire pressure settings on your car are NOT
necessarily the proper settings for the tires...

manufacturers like to recommend a lower tire pressure to
achieve a 'smoother' ride....

many a gear-head will tell you to run at 80% of the tire's
"maximum allowable pressure"

i know the MXM's are 50 lbs "maximum"....so 40 lbs would be 80%

i ditched my MXM's for Yoko's, but i run 38 psi.....
Old 11-24-2006, 12:50 PM
  #20  
07 TL-S
 
groovyone789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago Area
Age: 34
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
mine new car came from the dealer at 39psi, while i was cleaning the car, i checked the recommended pressure....... 35front 32rear. i let some air out, rides a bit different but i don't see 40psi hurting the car either, its not much of a difference to me
Old 11-28-2006, 07:01 PM
  #21  
Intermediate
 
ltcjmb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Age: 75
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Go to this thread for TP explanation

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...5&postcount=40
Old 11-28-2006, 07:33 PM
  #22  
Burning Brakes
 
ubnpast's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,095
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have my snow tires at 40 in the front, the sidewall is soo small that I dont want to bent a rim, plus the tire is really soft, so it isnt really supportive.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
peti1212
ILX
22
01-05-2022 05:14 PM
bailey24
5G TLX Tires, Wheels & Suspension
8
11-21-2015 08:43 PM
PeterPort
Car Parts for Sale
5
10-14-2015 06:19 AM
braveheart
Car Parts for Sale
0
09-07-2015 08:12 AM
bailey24
5G TLX Tires, Wheels & Suspension
2
08-31-2015 05:38 PM



Quick Reply: Dealer set tires at 40 PSI?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:59 AM.