Is it that bad to have a staggered setup??

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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 01:15 AM
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Is it that bad to have a staggered setup??

So I found a nice set of 19" Volks GT-C rims w/ Michelin tires for $1650, which is one hell of a deal. However, they are staggered (front is 19x8.5 and rears are 19x9.5).

I've done some searching about having a staggered setup on a FWD car, and many people discourage it. It seems that most people say it's because it'll decrease performance, and there might be some safety issues.

I don't plan to race my car (maybe for fun on the freeway or with friends), but mainly I want my car to look nice.

I'm on stock rims right now, so I'm almost desperate for some nice rims. I'm willing to spend $1500-$2000 for rims, which means I won't be able to buy a new set of Volks. What other companies can I look at for that price range???

Thanks a lot!
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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There performance drawbacks are very minimal...

I consider the 2 main drawbacks are:

1) Poser look. Staggered is for RWD, where you're increasing teh traction of the rear with a wider tire.

2) Can't rotate your wheels, (assuming your tires are directional... most performance tires are). You'll either have to drive the same wheels until they go bad (usually cutting the life in 1/2 of the tire), or pay $150 or so to have your tires broken down and put on the other side.

That's a good deal, I'd consider it too though... but I'll never do staggered, unless I trae for a new G35.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
There performance drawbacks are very minimal...

I consider the 2 main drawbacks are:

1) Poser look. Staggered is for RWD, where you're increasing teh traction of the rear with a wider tire.

2) Can't rotate your wheels, (assuming your tires are directional... most performance tires are). You'll either have to drive the same wheels until they go bad (usually cutting the life in 1/2 of the tire), or pay $150 or so to have your tires broken down and put on the other side.

That's a good deal, I'd consider it too though... but I'll never do staggered, unless I trae for a new G35.

Agreed 100%. Personally staggered setups should be left to RWD cars. But hey that's just my It's your car so you do what you want. Who gives a fuck what people like myself think!
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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I would usually say no but in this case i would say go ahead and do it cuz that price is a crazy deal!
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Do it .. the way it looks is amazing and the TL is not a race car anyway so screw performance as long as you can beat a civic you'll be ok
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CL Platano
Do it .. the way it looks is amazing and the TL is not a race car anyway so screw performance as long as you can beat a civic you'll be ok
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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I say do it, not only because its a good deal, but because who cares? We are not all on a race track where it really matters if you have an inch of extra width on the rear tire. 90% of the people won't even know the difference, another 5% wont be able to tell what staggered is until you probably tell them, and the other 5% think the TL is a RWD car.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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man go with the staggered all the way bro... i am currently on a 20x10 rear and 20x8.5 front and would of slit my wrist if i would of not gone staggered. It looks super aggressive and super luxuries. I love it.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Yeah I love my staggered offset...The look is sexy! You get all the time...
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Many cars have wider rears from the factory (oem) such as BMW. Plus, most people do not know what cars have RWD versus which cars have FWD.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 03:25 AM
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the biggest drawbacks besides not being to rotate the tires are that a staggered setup increases understeer on a car that already understeers in it's stock form, cus of the increased grip you're gonna be putting on the back. if you don't race your car or drive it that hard then it's no big deal, it won't hurt the car at all. i thought about doing this but i will save a staggered setup for when i eventually get a rwd car.

there's a pretty long thread a few pages back about this exact same topic.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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I am really considering doing this right now too. My question is, is there any tires such as the nitto 420s that i had on my old silverado that is multidirectional for lo pro cars? This would help with the rotation problem. Go for it hommie, let us know how it turns out! I am looking at ordering some 20x8.5/ 20x10's....just trying to figure out some fitment problems wit the bbk.
Besides its your car....do what you want...it will def. look good though.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 03:47 AM
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Why not put the bigger tires on front, like on the Grand Prix GXP? Put the 9.5" rims on the front, and the 8.5" rims on the rear....
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by avs007
Why not put the bigger tires on front, like on the Grand Prix GXP? Put the 9.5" rims on the front, and the 8.5" rims on the rear....
dude i would so think that looks like crap dont do that man... staggerd or flush dont do a reverse staggered.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Mine is staggered and dont regret my decision one bit. I love it.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by invincible569
Mine is staggered and dont regret my decision one bit. I love it.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuracy
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by invincible569
Mine is staggered and dont regret my decision one bit. I love it.

Originally Posted by ussi
Originally Posted by Acuracy
What are your guys specs....?
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by b827
What are your guys specs....?
makaveli 20x8.5 (front 1 inch lip) and 20x9.5 (rear 3 inch lip)

click my signature link for an idea
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ussi
makaveli 20x8.5 (front 1 inch lip) and 20x9.5 (rear 3 inch lip)

click my signature link for an idea

Niice... How did you check the fitment for the BBK? I am trying to find rims that I know will work with it. I have been considering the Donz montanas, or the makaveli's like you have. Although, I would like to go with a 20x10 in the rear. Could u pm me with the costs of your setup?
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by b827
What are your guys specs....?

HRE 547R 20x8.5 front and 20 x9.5 rear. I had to get a template for the BBK from Rotora and sent it to hre to they could have made it to fit over, i also sent them a template for the rear bbk so i can get it in the future if i decide to without any problems.

Travis
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Acuracy
HRE 547R 20x8.5 front and 20 x9.5 rear. I had to get a template for the BBK from Rotora and sent it to hre to they could have made it to fit over, i also sent them a template for the rear bbk so i can get it in the future if i decide to without any problems.

Travis

I'm not too familliar with rotora, is their specs the same as what we have on our car? If so, how did you get the template? I need to get a hold of one of those!
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by b827
What are your guys specs....?
Iforged Monaco's (Silver with polished lip)

20x8.5 - Front
20x9.5 - Rear

35mm offset. It clears BBK too.

Make sure you get the right tire size or you will be grinding.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by invincible569
Iforged Monaco's (Silver with polished lip)

20x8.5 - Front
20x9.5 - Rear

35mm offset. It clears BBK too.

Make sure you get the right tire size or you will be grinding.

I was planning on going with 20x8.5 - 225/30/20 for the fronts and 20x10- 255(?)/30/20 in the rears. 35mm offset seems to be the most common that works with no rubbing... I am trying to get in contact with Donz to make sure i can clear the brakes.

Does that sound like it will work? I am getting the drop at the same time...I just cant decide if I want to go with the Tien SS or Eibach pro...I can get the Eibach pro for cost, but many people seem to favor the tien...so i cant decide
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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i like the teins because i have the ability to raise and lower my car. When i put on my stock 17s or my a spec 18s i can slam it if i want and i raise it back up alittle when i put back on the 20s. This way i get the drop that I like. But $$$ is a factor too and its all up to u at the end. u should be fine with 255 in the rear but still need to trim the a spec kit in the rear if u have it.

Travis
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by b827
I was planning on going with 20x8.5 - 225/30/20 for the fronts and 20x10- 255(?)/30/20 in the rears. 35mm offset seems to be the most common that works with no rubbing... I am trying to get in contact with Donz to make sure i can clear the brakes.

Does that sound like it will work? I am getting the drop at the same time...I just cant decide if I want to go with the Tien SS or Eibach pro...I can get the Eibach pro for cost, but many people seem to favor the tien...so i cant decide
Sorry for not getting back to you, my guy did not get back to me. The size I went with is (frt 245/30/20) & (Rr 255/30/20) with a 35mm offset. If you go with a 225/30/20 it will look to small in the front.....245 are the right size and they don't rub, you have to do the fender alterations on all four sides.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Shawn
Sorry for not getting back to you, my guy did not get back to me. The size I went with is (frt 245/30/20) & (Rr 255/30/20) with a 35mm offset. If you go with a 225/30/20 it will look to small in the front.....245 are the right size and they don't rub, you have to do the fender alterations on all four sides.


ALright thanks alot...hey one last ? If you go look at your fronts....how much space is inbetween the rim and breaks? Is there alot of room?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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If you do it right it looks bad ass! Euro style!
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