Another Staggered/black Wheel Set up
05-09-2005, 03:01 PM
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Another Staggered/black Wheel Set up
I have read the posts and know there are guys that hate black rims and others that hate staggered rims. I wanted to get in on the arguements but didn't know how to post pics. Well, I think I just figured out how to post pics because I wanted to piss some more people off.
If this works well I will post wheel specs in the right place.
Man, my kid is right I better lower it. The fender gaps don't look as bad in person.
If this works well I will post wheel specs in the right place.
Man, my kid is right I better lower it. The fender gaps don't look as bad in person.
05-09-2005, 05:04 PM
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Why would someone else get pissed off about your taste in wheels? Unless you are thin-skinned about people laughing at you, I don't think anyone here is going to get pissed. 
05-09-2005, 09:04 PM
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I know what your talking about man, but most of the Acurazine community appreciates people posting pics of their rides. (even if they think it's good or a bad) And just for the record yours looks great man..... 
Ya just needs alittle lowering.....And if anyone is a STRAIGHT ASSHOLES to you, Well then FK’em they probably don’t have shit to show anyways.....
Ya just needs alittle lowering.....And if anyone is a STRAIGHT ASSHOLES to you, Well then FK’em they probably don’t have shit to show anyways.....
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[QUOTE=NYFENIXTL]I have read the posts and know there are guys that hate black rims and others that hate staggered rims. I wanted to get in on the arguements but didn't know how to post pics. Well, I think I just figured out how to post pics because I wanted to piss some more people off.
If this works well I will post wheel specs in the right place.
Man, my kid is right I better lower it. The fender gaps don't look as bad in person.
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I'd probably drop it about an inch. That should clear up the problem. Ride is sweet regardless!
If this works well I will post wheel specs in the right place.
Man, my kid is right I better lower it. The fender gaps don't look as bad in person.
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I'd probably drop it about an inch. That should clear up the problem. Ride is sweet regardless!
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05-10-2005, 10:21 AM
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Thanks guys. There was a similar setup on a silver TL a couple of weeks ago and the posts went on forever and some people were really belligerant . Anyway, like some said, I did it to please myself, noone else.
These are 3pc ROH rims. 8-9 months ago there was no real info on wheels for the TL, so I got with ROH and told them what I had planned and what I was looking for. It was a great experience. I was actually looking at 8" wide fronts and 9" rears and after working with them they were excited about going wider and didn't even charge me for it.
So, my fronts are 19x8.5 with an approximate 1" lip, we left room for the upcoming big break kit. The rears are 19x9.5 with a 2.5" lip. The centers look real similar to the RonJon Devotions.
I will post offset and other details in the rim section.
These are 3pc ROH rims. 8-9 months ago there was no real info on wheels for the TL, so I got with ROH and told them what I had planned and what I was looking for. It was a great experience. I was actually looking at 8" wide fronts and 9" rears and after working with them they were excited about going wider and didn't even charge me for it.
So, my fronts are 19x8.5 with an approximate 1" lip, we left room for the upcoming big break kit. The rears are 19x9.5 with a 2.5" lip. The centers look real similar to the RonJon Devotions.
I will post offset and other details in the rim section.
05-10-2005, 08:05 PM
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i too am not feelin the staggered, but i dont know very many people that hate black rims.
i love black rims with a polished lip, or anthracite with a polished lip.
i think staggered rims should be with old school muscle cars. thats it. nothing else
maybe ferrari's or lambos
i love black rims with a polished lip, or anthracite with a polished lip.
i think staggered rims should be with old school muscle cars. thats it. nothing else
maybe ferrari's or lambos
05-12-2005, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NYFENIXTL
I have read the posts and know there are guys that hate black rims and others that hate staggered rims.
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05-12-2005, 07:36 PM
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PoochaKannInc,
For ROH's 3pc wheel series you can spec almost anthing you want (offset, inside lip, outside lip) within reason of course based on brake setup, fender location and suspension components.
Sparky57,
If anyone can feel an increase in understeer you must be one of the best drivers and have one of teh best setups in the world. The effective increase from the 235 to 265 is less than 1.2" in width per side and the increased contact patch is probably a little less than that. On a car, especially with a commercial grade type suspension like ours, you got to be kidding me. This set up does not effect the type of cornering done by everyday drivers. I understand the theory you are projecting based on my weekend warrior type racing I have successfully done but for daily driving........
For ROH's 3pc wheel series you can spec almost anthing you want (offset, inside lip, outside lip) within reason of course based on brake setup, fender location and suspension components.
Sparky57,
If anyone can feel an increase in understeer you must be one of the best drivers and have one of teh best setups in the world. The effective increase from the 235 to 265 is less than 1.2" in width per side and the increased contact patch is probably a little less than that. On a car, especially with a commercial grade type suspension like ours, you got to be kidding me. This set up does not effect the type of cornering done by everyday drivers. I understand the theory you are projecting based on my weekend warrior type racing I have successfully done but for daily driving........
05-12-2005, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NYFENIXTL
On a car, especially with a commercial grade type suspension like ours, you got to be kidding me. This set up does not effect the type of cornering done by everyday drivers.
I am accustomed to the neutral handling of my wife's S2000 and enjoy taking freeway exit loops at brisk speeds. The A-Spec suspended TL does a pretty good job of duplicating that feel.
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05-12-2005, 10:51 PM
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Perplexed by "everyday drivers" who buy oversized 19" wheels and tires for cosmetic reasons only.
What do you mean? What other reason is there? How many people buy oversized wheels for anything else but show? I'd be suprised if 1% of people buy large aftermarket wheels for racing only.
What do you mean? What other reason is there? How many people buy oversized wheels for anything else but show? I'd be suprised if 1% of people buy large aftermarket wheels for racing only.
05-13-2005, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SweetJazz
What do you mean? What other reason is there?
I confess I had to break out laughing one day when I saw a FWD car with traction bars mounted at the rear.
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05-13-2005, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky57
Silly me. I buy a 150 mph sport sedan with sport suspension because I enjoy driving good handling cars.
I confess I had to break out laughing one day when I saw a FWD car with traction bars mounted at the rear.
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I confess I had to break out laughing one day when I saw a FWD car with traction bars mounted at the rear.
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NYFENIXTL: Thanks for the quick response about ROH. I appreciate it.
05-13-2005, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PoochaKannInc
I think what the earlier poster meant, is what is the "other" reason for buying 19" rims other than show? I admit I don't get what you just said either.
NYFENIXTL: Thanks for the quick response about ROH. I appreciate it.
NYFENIXTL: Thanks for the quick response about ROH. I appreciate it.
I understand what he’s saying. The selection of larger 3-piece rims and serious rubber (nice choice, by the way) is incongruous, from a performance perspective, with the decision to use a wider wheel and tire in the back. Having larger rear tires on a FWD car makes no sense from an engineering perspective, and I don’t think (God, I hope not) that anyone would dispute that.
Of course, the response to that is that this isn’t an engineering decision; it’s an appearance-oriented decision. While I have no problems with that, I will continue to laugh every time I see it because my mind comprehends the engineering aspects and fails to grasp the appearance aspects that justify spending more money on bad engineering. No, I don’t get it – but who cares? What I do know is that the owner is happy and the guys in the parts supply chain for this upgrade are probably happy too. Good enough for me.
It’s good that we don’t all look at things the same way. If it wasn’t for the people who look at everything from an engineering perspective, we wouldn’t have cars. If it wasn’t for people who look at everything from an aesthetic perspective, cars would look like crap.
Lastly: Wider rear wheels and tires on FWD =
05-13-2005, 11:06 PM
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Aegir:
I see where you are coming from. However, what I am saying is that huge wheels and performance are also incongrous as they increase unsprung weight (just as the serious rubber and the wider wheels in the rear are incongrous). Just as the staggered setup is for show, so is the 19's. For show not go. I'm ok with that. Like you said, it is good we all have different tastes. It makes life much more interesting.
Personally, I would want to go with a forged 18" wheel. Where the wheel would weigh closer to 18-19 lbs, and it would be wider also for a larger contact patch.
I see where you are coming from. However, what I am saying is that huge wheels and performance are also incongrous as they increase unsprung weight (just as the serious rubber and the wider wheels in the rear are incongrous). Just as the staggered setup is for show, so is the 19's. For show not go. I'm ok with that. Like you said, it is good we all have different tastes. It makes life much more interesting.
Personally, I would want to go with a forged 18" wheel. Where the wheel would weigh closer to 18-19 lbs, and it would be wider also for a larger contact patch.
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Nice Tires! Don't care for the rims to much, but they might look better in person. You have effectivley dialed in more understeer to a car that IMO has to much to begin with. Have fun and enjoy the ride.
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Originally Posted by Aegir
I understand what he’s saying. The selection of larger 3-piece rims and serious rubber (nice choice, by the way) is incongruous, from a performance perspective, with the decision to use a wider wheel and tire in the back. Having larger rear tires on a FWD car makes no sense from an engineering perspective
Originally Posted by Aegir
Of course, the response to that is that this isn’t an engineering decision; it’s an appearance-oriented decision.
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
The new Pontiac GTP will have 18" rims up front and 17" rims in the back...
For some reason, Pontiac engineers seem to believe that it will reduce understeer and produce more neutral handling.
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I think they look great.......
265's must look
Could you post some pics of the car at ground level, looking at the backend, so i can see the stance from the rear of the 265/30/19's.......... Please.......... TIA
And yeah, your kid is right, needs an A-Spec suspension ( best 1k I ever spent ).
265's must look
Could you post some pics of the car at ground level, looking at the backend, so i can see the stance from the rear of the 265/30/19's.......... Please.......... TIA
And yeah, your kid is right, needs an A-Spec suspension ( best 1k I ever spent ).
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