All season performance tire and size for upstate NY
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All season performance tire and size for upstate NY
I'm located in rochester ny, where we see all four seasons. I'm looking for a tire that can handle snow,slush and ice but still perform well when cornering and flooring the pedal. On my previous car I used Goodyear Assurance Tripletred's and fell in love. Highly recommend them. However I'm not having luck finding them in appropriate sizes for the 17x8 stock wheel. I've also seen a few threads about straying from the stock 235/45 to a 255/40 which seems to look real clean and provide additional rim protection. Thanks for help guys!
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I always recommend 245/45-17 although many have other thoughts, but with the GoodYear Triple Tred, they do have them in 235/45-17.
I have the GY Assurance ComforTred Touring (V rated) on our '08 knock around car, best tire I've ever owned for all around use. Was always a Michelin fan, but the last few sets have been poor, so GY to the #1 spot on my list.
I have the GY Assurance ComforTred Touring (V rated) on our '08 knock around car, best tire I've ever owned for all around use. Was always a Michelin fan, but the last few sets have been poor, so GY to the #1 spot on my list.
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+1 for the DWS. Highly recommended.
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Bridgestone Potenza RE970AS Pole Position.
I'm happy with the dry and wet grip.
Tire Rack's testing indicates that the DWS and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 are better in snow than the Pole Positions. The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 came in 1st in the testing of all-season UHP tires, BTW.
I'm happy with the dry and wet grip.
Tire Rack's testing indicates that the DWS and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 are better in snow than the Pole Positions. The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 came in 1st in the testing of all-season UHP tires, BTW.
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x2 for DWS.
I am currently running a set of Sears Roadhandler Sports (because I blew two tires and couldn't wait for DWS' to be shipped). I really like them so far. The true test comes in another month or so...
But the A/S-3 comes in a distant 6th in the survey:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...jsp?type=UHPAS
And I see (as I predicted) that the DWS has regained the #1 spot in the surveys...
I am currently running a set of Sears Roadhandler Sports (because I blew two tires and couldn't wait for DWS' to be shipped). I really like them so far. The true test comes in another month or so...
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...jsp?type=UHPAS
And I see (as I predicted) that the DWS has regained the #1 spot in the surveys...
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He works for the largest web company that sells them and has access to all sorts of customer reviews and data.
As an aside, I put them on the Accord used by my kids a year ago and have been very happy - snow traction included. Only downside reported by some is a soft sidewall, but if you aren't driving aggressively through the curves or for NASCAR, you will be fine.
As an aside, I put them on the Accord used by my kids a year ago and have been very happy - snow traction included. Only downside reported by some is a soft sidewall, but if you aren't driving aggressively through the curves or for NASCAR, you will be fine.
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I tend to rely on professional & instrumented testing and usually don't give too much credence to general user surveys unless the survey is for ease-of-use or ergonomic concerns.
Interestingly, the Advan S.4 tires previously on my TL are rated higher in the survey than the Potenza RE970 tires currently on the car, but I think the RE970 is a better tire overall.
Interestingly, the Advan S.4 tires previously on my TL are rated higher in the survey than the Potenza RE970 tires currently on the car, but I think the RE970 is a better tire overall.
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First significant snow today, about 4". The Roadhandlers absolutely suck in snow. Stay away.
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im on my 2nd set of DWS.
they are great in light snow but, living in Pennsylvania warrants snow tires for me.
so I have a set of DWS and during the heavier snow months I switch out to my snow tire combo ( snow tires are Blizzaks )
Only concern i've had with the DWS is flat spotting.
they are great in light snow but, living in Pennsylvania warrants snow tires for me.
so I have a set of DWS and during the heavier snow months I switch out to my snow tire combo ( snow tires are Blizzaks )
Only concern i've had with the DWS is flat spotting.
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im on my 2nd set of DWS.
they are great in light snow but, living in Pennsylvania warrants snow tires for me.
so I have a set of DWS and during the heavier snow months I switch out to my snow tire combo ( snow tires are Blizzaks )
Only concern i've had with the DWS is flat spotting.
they are great in light snow but, living in Pennsylvania warrants snow tires for me.
so I have a set of DWS and during the heavier snow months I switch out to my snow tire combo ( snow tires are Blizzaks )
Only concern i've had with the DWS is flat spotting.
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After yesterday's miserable snow experience with the Roadhandlers, I took the plunge and ordered a set of dedicated winter wheels/tires today from Tirerack. Free mounting/Hunter road force balancing and free Road Hazard. I also ordered their wall mount tire/wheel rack. $1210 delivered (after rebate). Review to follow...
225/45R-17 Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice WRT XL
MSW Type 12 bright silver
225/45R-17 Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice WRT XL
MSW Type 12 bright silver
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After yesterday's miserable snow experience with the Roadhandlers, I took the plunge and ordered a set of dedicated winter wheels/tires today from Tirerack. Free mounting/Hunter road force balancing and free Road Hazard. I also ordered their wall mount tire/wheel rack. $1210 delivered (after rebate). Review to follow...
225/45R-17 Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice WRT XL
MSW Type 12 bright silver
225/45R-17 Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice WRT XL
MSW Type 12 bright silver
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Congrats nfn
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Well, I'll have to report that I am very unimpressed with TireRack's speediness. I ordered this wheel/tire set on Friday before noon. They were open on Friday and both the tires and wheels were in stock. They sent me an email this morning saying they had been shipped, however, UPS shows nothing for the tracking #'s.
An email to Tirerack revealed that they won't ship out until this evening, which means it will be Monday at the earliest before they arrive. So that means it took TireRack over 3 full days to get them on the UPS truck. Not a great performance IMO.
An email to Tirerack revealed that they won't ship out until this evening, which means it will be Monday at the earliest before they arrive. So that means it took TireRack over 3 full days to get them on the UPS truck. Not a great performance IMO.
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Well, I'll have to report that I am very unimpressed with TireRack's speediness. I ordered this wheel/tire set on Friday before noon. They were open on Friday and both the tires and wheels were in stock. They sent me an email this morning saying they had been shipped, however, UPS shows nothing for the tracking #'s.
An email to Tirerack revealed that they won't ship out until this evening, which means it will be Monday at the earliest before they arrive. So that means it took TireRack over 3 full days to get them on the UPS truck. Not a great performance IMO.
An email to Tirerack revealed that they won't ship out until this evening, which means it will be Monday at the earliest before they arrive. So that means it took TireRack over 3 full days to get them on the UPS truck. Not a great performance IMO.
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Well at least with ordering a full package they should bolt right on and you don't have to worry about loosing more time with mounting and balancing.
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Yeah, I just really expected them to arrive within 5 business days of ordering. I understand that surge orders can effect shipping times, it's just a let down to not have them this week. I wish the agent I dealt with had told me to expect a delay (it wasn't Sonny).
The good news is that no snow is forecast between now and Monday and you're right: They'll bolt right on in my garage within an hour of arrival
I should also report that Sonny made a very satisfactory customer service response to my shipping delay
The good news is that no snow is forecast between now and Monday and you're right: They'll bolt right on in my garage within an hour of arrival
I should also report that Sonny made a very satisfactory customer service response to my shipping delay
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Congrats! It's good to know people in high or at least the right places!!
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I'm located in rochester ny, where we see all four seasons. I'm looking for a tire that can handle snow,slush and ice but still perform well when cornering and flooring the pedal. On my previous car I used Goodyear Assurance Tripletred's and fell in love. Highly recommend them. However I'm not having luck finding them in appropriate sizes for the 17x8 stock wheel. I've also seen a few threads about straying from the stock 235/45 to a 255/40 which seems to look real clean and provide additional rim protection. Thanks for help guys!
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Wheels/tires came in last evening. Very well packed! Centering rings were already installed on the wheels which was a nice surprise. Tires had stickers to identify driver/passenger side (directional tread). Installed easily. Only driven locally at speeds up to 60 and everything is fine. Road test tomorrow at full highway speeds.
Very pleased so far. I think the wheels look good on the car. Time will tell about the tires' performance in snow. Took a quick, crappy shot while at the gas station:
Very pleased so far. I think the wheels look good on the car. Time will tell about the tires' performance in snow. Took a quick, crappy shot while at the gas station:
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Looks good!! Best of luck with the snow performance, but I'm sure you will be pleased.
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You got it!! Thanks!! Very pleased so far These are intended as winter wheels, but if they hold up I may just buy a second set and retire the stockies. Only $117 each.
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I just had my snow put on yesterday, and took off the Contis DWS. Have to say I am very disappointed. They were a GREAT all around tire until the hit 25k, and then got real loud. At 35k they are shot... very disappointed. Looking for an alternative now.
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They have a 50K warranty, did you go to a dealer and complain / work something out?
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Sounds like a pretty decent allowance based on the mileage you did get. Any idea yet what you are going to replace them with?
I have them on my daughter's Accord and have been happy with them so far, but it's only been 13 months and about 12K.
I have them on my daughter's Accord and have been happy with them so far, but it's only been 13 months and about 12K.
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Am trying to figure out what to get now, have narrowed it down to the Hankook S1 Noble2, Pirelli PZero, Michelin Pilot Sport, Good Year Eagle Sport, or a different type of Conti's. ... suggestions welcome.
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What are your priorities and in what order? What is your budget? If you haven't already, you should spend some time on tirerack.com. Sounds like you already have dedicated snows, so why not go with a Summer only tire? I can highly recommend the Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
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What are your priorities and in what order? What is your budget? If you haven't already, you should spend some time on tirerack.com. Sounds like you already have dedicated snows, so why not go with a Summer only tire? I can highly recommend the Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
Am not considering summer tires because of the risk of still getting caught in an early (October/November), or late (April) snow storm here is western Mass. And, because from what I've read the summer tires tend to wear faster.
Thanks for sharing your experience
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Summer tires do tend to wear more quickly as they use softer compounds to help achieve those levels of performance. The Michelin Pilot Super Sports have a tread wear rating of 300. Also keep in mind you are only using them roughly half the year.
You might want to look at the Michelin A/S 3's as well. Just some thoughts, but it looks like you are making an informed decision.
You might want to look at the Michelin A/S 3's as well. Just some thoughts, but it looks like you are making an informed decision.
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Well, that didn't last long. My right rear WRT suddenly went flat today on the way to see "American Sniper". Fortunately, I was only 1/2 mile from a gas station and aired it up there.
Pressure held, so I figured what ever punctured the tire was temporarily seated well enough to block any leaking air. I drove another 1/2 mile to Sears to find out they could fit me in in about 3 hours. Perfect timing, movie would be over just in time for the appointment.
2.5 hours later, I came out of the movie and tire was still holding full pressure. Drove 1 block (Sears and the Cinema are in the same mall) to Sears. They pulled the tire and found broken belts on the tire. They dipped it and could find no leak anywhere, nor any sign of puncture. WTF??
I had just rotated the tires myself for the first time (~4K miles) two days ago and everything was fine.
I called the 3rd party road hazard company (the tires came with TireRack's 2-year road hazard warranty) and they want the tire shipped back to them before they'll consider honoring the warranty. In the meantime, I had to fork over $163 to have TireRack ship a replacement tire to Sears (I understand this was to be expected).
We may or may not know more after Sears gets the tire off the wheel. They were closing for the day and will probably not de-mount the tire until the new one arrives. At any rate, I certainly hope this isn't any issue with the tire design. We shall see and I'll keep you updated...
Pressure held, so I figured what ever punctured the tire was temporarily seated well enough to block any leaking air. I drove another 1/2 mile to Sears to find out they could fit me in in about 3 hours. Perfect timing, movie would be over just in time for the appointment.
2.5 hours later, I came out of the movie and tire was still holding full pressure. Drove 1 block (Sears and the Cinema are in the same mall) to Sears. They pulled the tire and found broken belts on the tire. They dipped it and could find no leak anywhere, nor any sign of puncture. WTF??
I had just rotated the tires myself for the first time (~4K miles) two days ago and everything was fine.
I called the 3rd party road hazard company (the tires came with TireRack's 2-year road hazard warranty) and they want the tire shipped back to them before they'll consider honoring the warranty. In the meantime, I had to fork over $163 to have TireRack ship a replacement tire to Sears (I understand this was to be expected).
We may or may not know more after Sears gets the tire off the wheel. They were closing for the day and will probably not de-mount the tire until the new one arrives. At any rate, I certainly hope this isn't any issue with the tire design. We shall see and I'll keep you updated...
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Sorry to here nfn. Please keep us posted.
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After the experience with the DWS getting soo loud, I am looking to sacrifice some performance for more quiet and ride comfort. Have spent a fair amount of time on the Tire Rack site and am somewhere between the Hankook and the Pirelli (I think).
Am not considering summer tires because of the risk of still getting caught in an early (October/November), or late (April) snow storm here is western Mass. And, because from what I've read the summer tires tend to wear faster.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Am not considering summer tires because of the risk of still getting caught in an early (October/November), or late (April) snow storm here is western Mass. And, because from what I've read the summer tires tend to wear faster.
Thanks for sharing your experience
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Well, that didn't last long. My right rear WRT suddenly went flat today on the way to see "American Sniper". Fortunately, I was only 1/2 mile from a gas station and aired it up there.
Pressure held, so I figured what ever punctured the tire was temporarily seated well enough to block any leaking air. I drove another 1/2 mile to Sears to find out they could fit me in in about 3 hours. Perfect timing, movie would be over just in time for the appointment.
2.5 hours later, I came out of the movie and tire was still holding full pressure. Drove 1 block (Sears and the Cinema are in the same mall) to Sears. They pulled the tire and found broken belts on the tire. They dipped it and could find no leak anywhere, nor any sign of puncture. WTF??
I had just rotated the tires myself for the first time (~4K miles) two days ago and everything was fine.
I called the 3rd party road hazard company (the tires came with TireRack's 2-year road hazard warranty) and they want the tire shipped back to them before they'll consider honoring the warranty. In the meantime, I had to fork over $163 to have TireRack ship a replacement tire to Sears (I understand this was to be expected).
We may or may not know more after Sears gets the tire off the wheel. They were closing for the day and will probably not de-mount the tire until the new one arrives. At any rate, I certainly hope this isn't any issue with the tire design. We shall see and I'll keep you updated...
Pressure held, so I figured what ever punctured the tire was temporarily seated well enough to block any leaking air. I drove another 1/2 mile to Sears to find out they could fit me in in about 3 hours. Perfect timing, movie would be over just in time for the appointment.
2.5 hours later, I came out of the movie and tire was still holding full pressure. Drove 1 block (Sears and the Cinema are in the same mall) to Sears. They pulled the tire and found broken belts on the tire. They dipped it and could find no leak anywhere, nor any sign of puncture. WTF??
I had just rotated the tires myself for the first time (~4K miles) two days ago and everything was fine.
I called the 3rd party road hazard company (the tires came with TireRack's 2-year road hazard warranty) and they want the tire shipped back to them before they'll consider honoring the warranty. In the meantime, I had to fork over $163 to have TireRack ship a replacement tire to Sears (I understand this was to be expected).
We may or may not know more after Sears gets the tire off the wheel. They were closing for the day and will probably not de-mount the tire until the new one arrives. At any rate, I certainly hope this isn't any issue with the tire design. We shall see and I'll keep you updated...
Well, after they got the tire off the rim, they could find no puncture damage or anything sticking through the inside of the tire. Zero evidence of road hazard damage...
So, that changes everything. Now the tire has to be shipped back to TireRack instead of Sonsio (the road hazard warranty company) for inspection and a replacement under the manufacturer's warranty.
More updates when I have them....